kram36

enewt

kram36
Anyone get an email to purchase the 3050 Black yet?

Yes. Both yesterday and today.

Interesting, never saw anyone post about it.

From all the sources I track, yesterday had six reports.

jimla65

enewt

kram36

enewt

kram36
Anyone get an email to purchase the 3050 Black yet?

Yes. Both yesterday and today.

Interesting, never saw anyone post about it.

From all the sources I track, yesterday had six reports.

I have not seen any scores of any people reporting 3050 Black, score info would be very helpful for people waiting in line in 3.0 queues.  The date and time becomes useful once the 0 score line starts to move.
 
Since there are different tiers you could report the lowest number in each tier. Say you are getting reports people with scores 2053,2052,2050,105,105,105,56,56,55,54, and "0 on 02/02/2022 11:51:33"
 
3050 XC Black                          3551              2050,105,54,0 02/02/2022 11:51:33   (Queue 3.0 Rules)*
 
or just report scores of new posts 2053,2052,2050,105,105,105,56,56,55,54,0
 
3050 XC Black                          3551              2053,2052,2050,105,105,105,56,56,55,54,0   (Queue 3.0 Rules)*

 
I thought of that, but there is also the binary categorization of whether the purchaser has / has not previously purchased from the 30 series queues. And we don't know what are the different EVGA score ranges for each tier. AND we don't know what percentage of each drop goes to which tier, except that we know that the drops are allocated across the tiers (so score alone is not a determining factor).  All in, without more information from EVGA, I don't think there is a workable tracking system. 

Talon2020
Does EVGA RTX 3050 not support Resizeable BAR? According to Precision X1 and GPU-Z ReBar is disabled on this card/not supported by the vBIOS.  
 
According to Nvidia SPECs page the card should support ReBar. EVGA? 
 
https://www.nvidia.com/en...ds/30-series/rtx-3050/

Anyone figure this out yet? I do have Resizable-Bar turned on in my motherboard bios, but PX1 is saying I need a 30 series card.
 

fl-evga

jimla65
 
A system does not have to be perfect to be useful, I would not worry about previous purchase reports at all because it could be wrongly reported anyways.  People think they bought a Series 3000 card and report it wrong, the person could have bought it at Newegg or Ebay which does not count.  I would not worry about tiers either to make it simple, just share recent raw scores that are reported. After seeing these scores we will start to see how the tier system works.  People with a previous purchase will have to wait for the second time the score comes up.
 
3050 XC Black                          3551              2053,2052,2050,105,105,105,56,56,55,54   (Queue 3.0 Rules)*
 
This would be useful for example:
If you have a score of 7 you know it will be some time before it is your turn.
If you have a score of 103 you better check for notifications twice a day.

Since we know that the score is of high(est) importance in the new queue system, I agree that capturing the score from the people that got the card is useful. 

 
I would agree with you...IF EVGA was allocating 100% to the top tier EVGA Scores, and then the second tier of EVGA Scores, etc. etc.  But they aren't.  X% of a new drop is allocated to Tier 1 (which contains scores of ????? to ????), and Z% of the same drop is allocated to Tier 2 (which contains scores of ???? to ???), etc. etc.  So knowing that somebody with an EVGA score of 500 received an invite to purchase doesn't mean that folks with a score of 0 didn't also receive an invite to purchase from the same drop.  There are simply too many variables for us to meaningfully track with the limited and imperfect information available to us.  If we knew what specific scores comprise each tier (and, preferably, what the percentage allocation was to each tier), we might be able to reverse engineer a quasi-reliable tracking system. But we don't have either of those elements. Any attempt to track Queue 3.0 with our currently available (and limited) information will be just as likely to mislead as to inform.

enewt

fl-evga

jimla65
 
A system does not have to be perfect to be useful, I would not worry about previous purchase reports at all because it could be wrongly reported anyways.  People think they bought a Series 3000 card and report it wrong, the person could have bought it at Newegg or Ebay which does not count.  I would not worry about tiers either to make it simple, just share recent raw scores that are reported. After seeing these scores we will start to see how the tier system works.  People with a previous purchase will have to wait for the second time the score comes up.
 
3050 XC Black                          3551              2053,2052,2050,105,105,105,56,56,55,54   (Queue 3.0 Rules)*
 
This would be useful for example:
If you have a score of 7 you know it will be some time before it is your turn.
If you have a score of 103 you better check for notifications twice a day.

Since we know that the score is of high(est) importance in the new queue system, I agree that capturing the score from the people that got the card is useful. 

 
I would agree with you...IF EVGA was allocating 100% to the top tier EVGA Scores, and then the second tier of EVGA Scores, etc. etc.  But they aren't.  X% of a new drop is allocated to Tier 1 (which contains scores of ????? to ????), and Z% of the same drop is allocated to Tier 2 (which contains scores of ???? to ???), etc. etc.  So knowing that somebody with an EVGA score of 500 received an invite to purchase doesn't mean that folks with a score of 0 didn't also receive an invite to purchase from the same drop.  There are simply too many variables for us to meaningfully track with the limited and imperfect information available to us.  If we knew what specific scores comprise each tier (and, preferably, what the percentage allocation was to each tier), we might be able to reverse engineer a quasi-reliable tracking system. But we don't have either of those elements. Any attempt to track Queue 3.0 with our currently available (and limited) information will be just as likely to mislead as to inform.

I agree.  Too many variables.  Even if we (the customers) provide all of our data, we are missing the tier definitions and drop quantity per tier (which may both vary by month or drop, we don't know).  There is no way to legitimately track this.  It will just be frustrating to people, and may even lead to more angst as people feel slighted because of some errant expectations set by estimations of the missing variables.

kram36

Talon2020
Does EVGA RTX 3050 not support Resizeable BAR? According to Precision X1 and GPU-Z ReBar is disabled on this card/not supported by the vBIOS.  
 
According to Nvidia SPECs page the card should support ReBar. EVGA? 
 
https://www.nvidia.com/en...ds/30-series/rtx-3050/

Anyone figure this out yet? I do have Resizable-Bar turned on in my motherboard bios, but PX1 is saying I need a 30 series card.
 

Try the new version of PX1 released today.  That should fix this issue.

staypuft

enewt

fl-evga

jimla65
 
A system does not have to be perfect to be useful, I would not worry about previous purchase reports at all because it could be wrongly reported anyways.  People think they bought a Series 3000 card and report it wrong, the person could have bought it at Newegg or Ebay which does not count.  I would not worry about tiers either to make it simple, just share recent raw scores that are reported. After seeing these scores we will start to see how the tier system works.  People with a previous purchase will have to wait for the second time the score comes up.
 
3050 XC Black                          3551              2053,2052,2050,105,105,105,56,56,55,54   (Queue 3.0 Rules)*
 
This would be useful for example:
If you have a score of 7 you know it will be some time before it is your turn.
If you have a score of 103 you better check for notifications twice a day.

Since we know that the score is of high(est) importance in the new queue system, I agree that capturing the score from the people that got the card is useful. 

 
I would agree with you...IF EVGA was allocating 100% to the top tier EVGA Scores, and then the second tier of EVGA Scores, etc. etc.  But they aren't.  X% of a new drop is allocated to Tier 1 (which contains scores of ????? to ????), and Z% of the same drop is allocated to Tier 2 (which contains scores of ???? to ???), etc. etc.  So knowing that somebody with an EVGA score of 500 received an invite to purchase doesn't mean that folks with a score of 0 didn't also receive an invite to purchase from the same drop.  There are simply too many variables for us to meaningfully track with the limited and imperfect information available to us.  If we knew what specific scores comprise each tier (and, preferably, what the percentage allocation was to each tier), we might be able to reverse engineer a quasi-reliable tracking system. But we don't have either of those elements. Any attempt to track Queue 3.0 with our currently available (and limited) information will be just as likely to mislead as to inform.

I agree.  Too many variables.  Even if we (the customers) provide all of our data, we are missing the tier definitions and drop quantity per tier (which may both vary by month or drop, we don't know).  There is no way to legitimately track this.  It will just be frustrating to people, and may even lead to more angst as people feel slighted because of some errant expectations set by estimations of the missing variables.

I agree with that 3.0 Queue is very frustrating to people.  Having to check your email daily often for over a year only the buy a product at the price it should sell for.  Then the year wait and the time monitoring email could be a waste because you missing the small window to reply or your credit card won't work during purchase.
 
It may not be worth tracking the 3.0 Queues at all, the 3.0 Queue may not exist at all.  Only a small token amount(maybe <5%) of EVGA production be sold through the 3.0 Queue system.  For example, only 6 RTX 3050 Black cards 3.0 Queues cards reported so far.
 
More people have reported getting EVGA RTX 3050 Black cards from Newegg than from the 3.0 Queue system. This would not happen with a fair system.
 
More people are selling new EVGA RTX 3050 Black cards on Ebay each day than the amount reported bought in the entire life of the EVGA RTX 3050 Black 3.0 Queue system.  This would not happen with a fair system.
 
It appears that system was designed to give product to their 300 best customers and make it impossible to "legitimately track" the progress of the queue.  Giving an illusion of a queue system.
 

Speaking of the 3050 black, some guy on FB marketplace near me is selling one for almost double MSRP and says he got it though the DIY configurator here. I don't think I've seen a single 3050 on the configurator at all, let alone the XC black. Anyone else?

staypuft

Donradeon
Speaking of the 3050 black, some guy on FB marketplace near me is selling one for almost double MSRP and says he got it though the DIY configurator here. I don't think I've seen a single 3050 on the configurator at all, let alone the XC black. Anyone else?

They didn't get it through the configurator.  Queue 3.0 dropped some 3551 cards last week.  Newegg had some at and around the launch date.

Read the post, seller said "he got it though the DIY configurator here", that is what Danrandeon posted.  Many 2.0 and 3.0 queue cards have been sold, so it does not surprise me.
 
Everyone being part of the Queue 3.0 system signed up for a EVGA account and has assess to this forums making it likely to report purchase of hard to get products.  Many check daily for notifications to watch the forums often   While newegg purchasers would be 10 to 20 times less likely to report on this forums because they don't have EVG accounts.  But the truth is more reported newegg purchases than EVGA Queue 3.0.  That is how I came up with the queue 3.0 getting less than 5% of EVGA 3050 Black product.
 
It has been confirmed by 3rd party, that queue 2.0  & 3.0 product not under contract is going to "DIY configurator".  This would not happen with a fair system.
 
 

Flint 1760
 
As has been mentioned ad nauseam, EVGA has binding contractual obligations both as a corporation and an AIB to provide cards to various resellers.

DIY configurator has nothing to do with "binding contractual obligations" with other companies.  Many 2.0 and 3.0 Queue cards have lately be reported purchased DIY configurator, maybe more cards than the 2.0 and 3.0 queues.  This would not happen with a fair system.
 
 

Flint 1760

jimla65
It has been confirmed by 3rd party, that queue 2.0  & 3.0 product not under contract is going to "DIY configurator".  This would not happen with a fair system.

OK, who is the 3rd party, how do they have access to that information, in what form is the information, and do they have verification?

A scalper, a 3rd party seller of new product. The guy selling on FB marketplace.
 

jimla65

staypuft

Donradeon
Speaking of the 3050 black, some guy on FB marketplace near me is selling one for almost double MSRP and says he got it though the DIY configurator here. I don't think I've seen a single 3050 on the configurator at all, let alone the XC black. Anyone else?

They didn't get it through the configurator.  Queue 3.0 dropped some 3551 cards last week.  Newegg had some at and around the launch date.

Read the post, seller said "he got it though the DIY configurator here", that is what Danrandeon posted.  Many 2.0 and 3.0 queue cards have been sold, so it does not surprise me.
 
Everyone being part of the Queue 3.0 system signed up for a EVGA account and has assess to this forums making it likely to report purchase of hard to get products.  Many check daily for notifications to watch the forums often   While newegg purchasers would be 10 to 20 times less likely to report on this forums because they don't have EVG accounts.  But the truth is more reported newegg purchases than EVGA Queue 3.0.  That is how I came up with the queue 3.0 getting less than 5% of EVGA 3050 Black product.
 
It has been confirmed by 3rd party, that queue 2.0  & 3.0 product not under contract is going to "DIY configurator".  This would not happen with a fair system.

I read the post, and my response is that the seller did not get it through the DIY.  Queue, maybe.  Newegg, maybe.  Not DIY.

At the present time it is closed.  It opens sporadically so just check back.

staypuft

jimla65

staypuft

Donradeon
Speaking of the 3050 black, some guy on FB marketplace near me is selling one for almost double MSRP and says he got it though the DIY configurator here. I don't think I've seen a single 3050 on the configurator at all, let alone the XC black. Anyone else?

They didn't get it through the configurator.  Queue 3.0 dropped some 3551 cards last week.  Newegg had some at and around the launch date.

Read the post, seller said "he got it though the DIY configurator here", that is what Danrandeon posted.  Many 2.0 and 3.0 queue cards have been sold, so it does not surprise me.
 
Everyone being part of the Queue 3.0 system signed up for a EVGA account and has assess to this forums making it likely to report purchase of hard to get products.  Many check daily for notifications to watch the forums often   While newegg purchasers would be 10 to 20 times less likely to report on this forums because they don't have EVG accounts.  But the truth is more reported newegg purchases than EVGA Queue 3.0.  That is how I came up with the queue 3.0 getting less than 5% of EVGA 3050 Black product.
 
It has been confirmed by 3rd party, that queue 2.0  & 3.0 product not under contract is going to "DIY configurator".  This would not happen with a fair system.

I read the post, and my response is that the seller did not get it through the DIY.  Queue, maybe.  Newegg, maybe.  Not DIY.

So you are a EVGA employee\associate with insider info.  And you know DIY never sold EVGA 3050 Black, so Donradeon report is in error.
 
I wish employees would not use unmarked forum accounts.  Thank you for the update.

Donradeon
That escalated quickly..

I mentioned what the seller said and asked if anyone has seen it in the diy configurator. I check that thing throughout the day and have been checking it ever since the 3050 dropped. I've only seen the 3060, 3070ti and 3080 12gb in it since then. Still, I figured I'd ask if anyone else has seen a 3050 because I doubted the seller, but you never know.

I think if anything he got it from the Newegg shuffle and misspoke. Seems strange he'd mention the diy configurator though..

Exactly, I have not seen it posted anywhere here on the forum.  It has also not posted on other notification sources for DIY since its release.  The seller is either mistaken or copied text from another sale on that FB listing.