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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 16:41:05 (permalink)
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I wonder how much after launch the Hybrid and HC versions will come. Soon could be a couple of weeks or a couple of months :D


Would make 0 sense releasing it two weeks later, otherwise theyd just launch it day 1.


They are not releasing day one and were confirmed to be releasing soon after the 3080 and 3090 launch days for the respective cards. It was mentioned on Friday's EVGA Weekly. I doubt if they meant it would be 2 months, but only a vague "soon" to go on as of now. I suspect we'll hear more later this week.


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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 16:49:51 (permalink)
It would be nice if the Hydro-Copper ones go live with the rest but yea I'm dreaming there...
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 17:03:39 (permalink)
Does anyone have any idea as to whether or not the 3090 will indeed have an additional bank of VRAM on the top-side of the PCB (under the back-plate)? 
 
I'm getting conflicting information here, I read somewhere, I believe here, that Nvidia will be using 12 2GB modules where they traditionally go instead. 
 
This is important to me because I intend to put the card under a water block and am concerned about cooling a potential bank of VRAM on the top of the card just passively with a back-plate. 

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 17:24:45 (permalink)
from WHERE will we be able to buy the 3080FTW3? This site, or others like Amazon, Newegg etc......

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 17:32:40 (permalink)
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Does anyone have any idea as to whether or not the 3090 will indeed have an additional bank of VRAM on the top-side of the PCB (under the back-plate)? 
 
I'm getting conflicting information here, I read somewhere, I believe here, that Nvidia will be using 12 2GB modules where they traditionally go instead. 
 
This is important to me because I intend to put the card under a water block and am concerned about cooling a potential bank of VRAM on the top of the card just passively with a back-plate. 


12 chips on front of PCB. 12 chips on back. 16Gb chiplets won't be around until sometime in 2021.

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from WHERE will we be able to buy the 3080FTW3? This site, or others like Amazon, Newegg etc......


Probably all of the above. BHPhoto can probably also be thrown in there.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 18:12:16 (permalink)
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Does anyone have any idea as to whether or not the 3090 will indeed have an additional bank of VRAM on the top-side of the PCB (under the back-plate)? 
 
I'm getting conflicting information here, I read somewhere, I believe here, that Nvidia will be using 12 2GB modules where they traditionally go instead. 
 
This is important to me because I intend to put the card under a water block and am concerned about cooling a potential bank of VRAM on the top of the card just passively with a back-plate. 


12 chips on front of PCB. 12 chips on back. 16Gb chiplets won't be around until sometime in 2021.

__Grig__
from WHERE will we be able to buy the 3080FTW3? This site, or others like Amazon, Newegg etc......


Probably all of the above. BHPhoto can probably also be thrown in there.



Found pictures of both sides of the 3090 PCB and yes, it appears that the VRAM is indeed on both sides. I assume that the factory coolers, both FE and "reference" will have a cold plate that is connected to a heat-sink via heat-pipe, not sure how cooling the top side of video memory will be accomplished satisfactorily with just a back-plate in conjunction with a water block. Any ideas? 
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 18:17:50 (permalink)
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This is important to me because I intend to put the card under a water block and am concerned about cooling a potential bank of VRAM on the top of the card just passively with a back-plate. 




GTX Titan X didn't even come with a backplate and it had memory chips on the back.  Pretty certain they don't need any actual heatsinking, just not being smothered.
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 18:46:15 (permalink)
I'm hoping I'll be able to snag a 3090 FTW3 to replace my tired 1080 FTW (Wife will enjoy the upgrade from my 980 SC2). Hopefully EK makes a water block for it. I know I'm not the only one that's not a fan of the red on the card. Does painting that black void the warranty? I know EVGA has been more forgiving for things like that, I'd get the hydrocopper but it's got red on it as well.... Also I just saw a post on facebook showing the FTW3 Overclocked from 1.7Ghz Core all the way up to 2.1, that would be amazing to get that sort of overclock!

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 19:19:20 (permalink)
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This is important to me because I intend to put the card under a water block and am concerned about cooling a potential bank of VRAM on the top of the card just passively with a back-plate. 




GTX Titan X didn't even come with a backplate and it had memory chips on the back.  Pretty certain they don't need any actual heatsinking, just not being smothered.
 
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Thanks for the reply, I am trying to figure out what model youre referring to, if look up the Titan X all 12 modules encircle the GPU die on the bottom, the only Titan I've kind of found that mentions the memory being on the top of the PCB under the back-plate is the 700 series Titan, but I can't find any further information in this regard. Do you have any more info? I intend to overclock the memory, so cooling the top bank of VRAM is important, I have cool air coming in from the rear 140mm Noiseblocker E-Loop directly onto the back-plate of the current card, so I could technically achieve a certain degree of cooling here, but it's not the same as having the memory modules in contact with a water block. Worrying still is the way EKWB designs their back-plates to contact the VRM. 
 
 

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I'm hoping I'll be able to snag a 3090 FTW3 to replace my tired 1080 FTW (Wife will enjoy the upgrade from my 980 SC2). Hopefully EK makes a water block for it. I know I'm not the only one that's not a fan of the red on the card. Does painting that black void the warranty? I know EVGA has been more forgiving for things like that, I'd get the hydrocopper but it's got red on it as well.... Also I just saw a post on facebook showing the FTW3 Overclocked from 1.7Ghz Core all the way up to 2.1, that would be amazing to get that sort of overclock!



I'm so disappointed with the aesthetic direction EVGA took with Ampere, the 20 card cooler design looks light years ahead of this. I don't like the red plastic accents, the hexagonal hole pattern, the garish "Geforce RTX" in gray, even the color, dark gray, nothing about the Hydro Copper or the air cooled variants is attractive. I intend to put my XC3 under a waterblock immediately. 
 
Someone asked a similar question in a different thread here and a moderator said that painting over the red strip would void the warranty. 

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 19:22:41 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply, I am trying to figure out what model youre referring to, if look up the Titan X all 12 modules encircle the GPU die on the bottom, the only Titan I've kind of found that mentions the memory being on the top of the PCB under the back-plate is the 700 series Titan, but I can't find any further information in this regard. Do you have any more info? I intend to overclock the memory, so cooling the top bank of VRAM is important, I have cool air coming in from the rear 140mm Noiseblocker E-Loop directly onto the back-plate of the current card, so I could technically achieve a certain degree of cooling here, but it's not the same as having the memory modules in contact with a water block. Worrying still is the way EKWB designs their back-plates to contact the VRM. 



The Maxwell Titan X, which then got cut down to the 980Ti.  This is what the reference version looked like, backplates were aftermarket.  (The 980Ti used the same PCB without these memory chips, 12GB -> 6GB): 

 
I still have one of these in service.  The memory always overclocked fine (to the point where further memory overclocking made 0 difference in benchmark numbers, the core clock always mattered a lot more)
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 20:03:09 (permalink)
Have a stupid question. On the [image]file:///C:/Users/slava/Desktop/features_04.webp[/image]Precision X1 picture, there are 4 parts that show rainbow RGB (Front plate, back & side EVGA, and some kind of line (maybe backplate line?). but at the bottom, it says Color: single and set to red. Maybe its for the accents on the sides? Are they RGB or its solid plastic.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 20:07:50 (permalink)
Think this is the picture

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 20:12:25 (permalink)
Well, like many others.. it's time to upgrade from my 10-Series card. Going to be setting my sights on the FTW3 or the HC 3080.  I actually kind of like the looks of the FTW3 card itself, but then again.. A waterblock will be going on it, so.  :)  Hopefully as we'll see some info in the pricing as we get closer to the big day.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 20:13:40 (permalink)
That's kinda sad, they were always the one's that were ok with you pulling the shroud off to slap a water block on without voiding the warranty but I can't paint over a small red piece of plastic? This is the first time I'm kinda bummed about the Look of the cards.... I'd lean towards the xc3 which maybe I will, seems like they all use the same pcb (besides the overkill thermal sensors) and you don't get any extra power phases unless you go with a KP card. I'm not sure what I'll do then.. You think they'd do a test of that and measure responses before doing the red on all of them.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 20:25:07 (permalink)
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That's kinda sad, they were always the one's that were ok with you pulling the shroud off to slap a water block on without voiding the warranty but I can't paint over a small red piece of plastic? This is the first time I'm kinda bummed about the Look of the cards.... I'd lean towards the xc3 which maybe I will, seems like they all use the same pcb (besides the overkill thermal sensors) and you don't get any extra power phases unless you go with a KP card. I'm not sure what I'll do then.. You think they'd do a test of that and measure responses before doing the red on all of them.

You're assuming they didn't.
There is a very vocal portion of the forum complaining about the design.
The rest of us either like them, wait to see them for real, or just plain don't care.
I obviously don't know more than you do, but maybe, just maybe, this is a vocal minority.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 22:02:22 (permalink)
Any word on the step-up program for the 30 series? I bought a 2080ti in July and would like to know.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 22:42:30 (permalink)
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Any word on the step-up program for the 30 series? I bought a 2080ti in July and would like to know.

Please check the step-up forum. Until there is availability of stock there is no info at this time. 

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 23:04:24 (permalink)
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That's kinda sad, they were always the one's that were ok with you pulling the shroud off to slap a water block on without voiding the warranty but I can't paint over a small red piece of plastic? This is the first time I'm kinda bummed about the Look of the cards.... I'd lean towards the xc3 which maybe I will, seems like they all use the same pcb (besides the overkill thermal sensors) and you don't get any extra power phases unless you go with a KP card. I'm not sure what I'll do then.. You think they'd do a test of that and measure responses before doing the red on all of them.


How about putting those white school glue on the red parts before painting, and when you need service, you just peel them off? I don't know how school glue will do under/near warm environment though.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/07 23:30:41 (permalink)
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I wonder how much after launch the Hybrid and HC versions will come. Soon could be a couple of weeks or a couple of months :D


Would make 0 sense releasing it two weeks later, otherwise theyd just launch it day 1.


They are not releasing day one and were confirmed to be releasing soon after the 3080 and 3090 launch days for the respective cards. It was mentioned on Friday's EVGA Weekly. I doubt if they meant it would be 2 months, but only a vague "soon" to go on as of now. I suspect we'll hear more later this week.


I'll definitely listen out for that but I'm anxious about it, I've finally got my cash together and am upgrading from my gtx770... I need this card and really don't wanna miss out by waiting for the hybrid card, much rather buy the ftw3 card now and buy the hybrid cooler later when they sell separately like for the 2000 series cards.
 
I don't want to wait to 2021 for stock to come back up after the initial release......

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 00:33:14 (permalink)
There is a million ways to mod the red accent not to be there, why are people so adamant about it? The overall design cant be so easily be modified.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 01:37:16 (permalink)
Will the 3080 FTW fit in a NZXT s340 Elite that has a radiator on the front? Currently I have the EVGA 2080 Super XC Ultra just fine in it. Looks like he XC model of the 3080 is 0.6 inches longer itself
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 02:16:17 (permalink)
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I wonder how much after launch the Hybrid and HC versions will come. Soon could be a couple of weeks or a couple of months :D


Would make 0 sense releasing it two weeks later, otherwise theyd just launch it day 1.


They are not releasing day one and were confirmed to be releasing soon after the 3080 and 3090 launch days for the respective cards. It was mentioned on Friday's EVGA Weekly. I doubt if they meant it would be 2 months, but only a vague "soon" to go on as of now. I suspect we'll hear more later this week.




i know back when the 1080 came out , i had got the hybrid cooler a while after when the hybrid cooling kit came out for like 140 bucks. dont remember how long after but the kit was really easy to install. when i sold the card i just took the hybrid cooler off and reinstalled the original cooler , sold the hybrid cooler separate as well. 
i ended up buying a 1080ti FTW3 hybrid after that. 






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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 02:31:14 (permalink)
I just try to meet with the performance of RTX 3080 GPU compare to the previous series...
Looks like RTX 3090 Hydro Copper will be an amazing upgrade for owners of Pascal.
People who wait better cards then RTX2080Ti are probably very happy. 

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 03:40:45 (permalink)
Anyone know the dimensions between the 3080 ftw3 and xc3? Wondering how they would fit in my lian li PC-011 dynamic mid tower case. Im leaning toward the ftw3.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 05:47:53 (permalink)
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Anyone know the dimensions between the 3080 ftw3 and xc3? Wondering how they would fit in my lian li PC-011 dynamic mid tower case. Im leaning toward the ftw3.


It's all over the forums. Here is one of the occurrences: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3074126
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 05:52:16 (permalink)
The problem is as mentioned before, someone stated that a member of evga replied with saying painting the red trim voids the warranty, that's the reason I'm upset about it, might be why others have complained. I'll probably just get the FTW3 3090 and live with it until they hopefully make an ek block for it.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 05:53:56 (permalink)
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The problem is as mentioned before, someone stated that a member of evga replied with saying painting the red trim voids the warranty, that's the reason I'm upset about it, might be why others have complained. I'll probably just get the FTW3 3090 and live with it until they hopefully make an ek block for it.


They kinda announced they will (without any dates of course).
 
https://www.ekwb.com/blog/did-you-know-the-nvidia-30-series-founders-edition-layout-is-not-a-reference-design/

The third option is the AIB (Add-In-Board, rarely referred to as AIC) partner card. These partner cards are using custom PCB designs and usually custom power delivery sections. You already know these cards by names such as Strix, FTW3, Aorus, etc.
AIB cards will also get their own specially-developed EK-Quantum Vector water blocks.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 06:28:55 (permalink)
The good thing about being in line for the 3090 is that you get to monitor how the 3080 situation goes. Release times, availability, ext and then plan accordingly 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 06:41:33 (permalink)
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Guys, if your so worried about using a black sharpy on the red line, get a cheap bottle of acetone..... It will wipe the black right off if needed


I would not recommend it.  If you have a spare RTX 30 series card, test on it first.  
 

It can etch the plastic, fade the red color, and make the finish dull instead of glossy.  Hardly a full reversal.  That could cost you the price of a cooler, could cost you the whole warranty, or could cost you the price of cross-ship and needing to swap coolers to retain your modified cooler.  Acetone is pretty harsh.  I would start with isopropyl alcohol first.
 
But honestly, I would just not use a marker or paint pen in the first place.  Plasti Dip is where it's at.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/08 06:46:13 (permalink)
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...I'm so disappointed with the aesthetic direction EVGA took with Ampere, the 20 card cooler design looks light years ahead of this. I don't like the red plastic accents, the hexagonal hole pattern, the garish "Geforce RTX" in gray, even the color, dark gray, nothing about the Hydro Copper or the air cooled variants is attractive....



I'm disappointed that the EVGA cards don't look like this:
 

 
Even the color is pleasing to me. That is the best-looking graphics card I've ever seen in my life.
 
A GPU is a 100% functional device that is meant to sit inside of a box for a few months before it's replaced, so aesthetics are simply not important, but nevertheless I don't think I have ever seen an uglier card than the one EVGA is displaying on its homepage.
 
What in tarnation is that tacky, garish rainbow effect? Is there really more than a small percentage of people who find that attractive? Did they waste money on a fancy lighting control system, or like my past GPUs, is it SUX ON whether I like it or not?
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