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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 10:16:12 (permalink)
Is it save to mount the new cards vertically?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 10:26:33 (permalink)
Yes new cards can be mounted vertically. Why would there be an issue?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 10:26:52 (permalink)
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Is it save to mount the new cards vertically?

Why would it be unsafe?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 11:05:55 (permalink)
My 2080ti FTW Ultra runs like a champ that way.
 
But for the guest room i got a cheap (in more ways than one)  2080 "triple fan" variant from antoher vendor which heat transferred into the case via the display port (upper side of the case) in an unsafe manner.
Researching a reason for this i checked the cooler and renewed the pads in a generous manner. Nothing helped. The GPU sensor did not pick this up btw.
 
After that i had to cast a wide net and after a few days i have found out that there are many types of heatpipes. One or more types have an internal wick structure which looses a lot of efficiency if used vertically.
 
I never had issues with my EVGA cards in this position (fanboy of evga and vertical mounts since 2009).
The 2080ti FE though had a disclaimer about this mounting position on their page.
 
I simply wanted to ask something which has not been answered yet.
 
Rgds Sixtus
 
ps: last time around i had no issues whatsoever to get a card in Europe. I simply did let my mobile wake me 24/7 if an email arrives. 2:35 i got my evga subscribed mail info about general availability and 2:40 i was done buying my 2080ti.
     reddit ( r/EVGA and r/Nvidia ) informed me about this as well.
post edited by Sixtus23 - 2020/09/04 16:19:56
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 11:09:12 (permalink)
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ps: last time around i had no issues whatsoever to get a card in Europe. I simply did let my mobile wake me 24/7 if an email arrives. 2:35 i got my evga subscribed mail info about general availability and 2:40 i was done buying my 2080ti.


Im unsure if I should buy from EVGA direct or somewhere else like Overclockers here in the UK

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 11:19:20 (permalink)
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My 2080 FTW Ultra runs like a champ that way.
 
But for the guest room i got a cheap (in more ways than one)  2080 "triple fan" variant from antoher vendor which heat transferred into the case via the display port (upper side of the case) in an unsafe manner.
Researching a reason for this i checked the cooler and renewed the pads in a generous manner. Nothing helped. The GPU sensor did not pick this up btw.
 
After that i had to cast a wide net and after a few days i have found out that there are many types of heatpipes. One or more types have an internal wick structure which looses a lot of efficiency if used vertically.
 
I never had issues with my EVGA cards in this position (fanboy of evga and vertical mounts since 2009).
The 2080ti FE though had a disclaimer about this mounting position on their page.
 
I simply wanted to ask something which has not been answered yet.
 
Rgds Sixtus
 
ps: last time around i had no issues whatsoever to get a card in Europe. I simply did let my mobile wake me 24/7 if an email arrives. 2:35 i got my evga subscribed mail info about general availability and 2:40 i was done buying my 2080ti.
     reddit ( r/EVGA and r/Nvidia ) informed me about this as well.


yeah this would be good to know i have a horizontal motherboard case
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 11:25:02 (permalink)
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why no pre orders? Tom from MLD was right:qty is extremely limited. Samsung with its 8nm failed.

And he was right about everything else so far with this release
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 11:55:57 (permalink)
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do we know the price for the 3080 FTW3? If not, what do you guys think it'll be, and also, do we have a relative date yet? Thx


I'd guess its 1000€

Really? I mean Nvidia said their own cooler is already a $150 cooler or something, also their PCB is quite complicated. I'm not going to spend €1000 on a FTW3 if the founders will cost only €719 even with amazing warranty. €849 tops.






%100 how I feel. People underestimate the innovation went through for FE this time. They definitely created something unique, good and premium looking product. I remember they said that the cooler cost them quite a bit of money, so I would expect from AIB cards to reduce that cooler cost first.
 
The fact that FE is 699 doesn't mean that they need to charge $200 premium and make the card $899 while offering slight differences. We haven't even seen the OC potentials of the cards, though Asus Strix seems like getting +30 Boost Clock with nearly +$200 price increase.
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 12:29:29 (permalink)
hi everybody
seems the xc3 black will take less width than the ftw3 you have the same impression? thx
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 13:08:19 (permalink)
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Which model of 3090 from evga is reference?

Typically reference models have been the PCB designed by Nvidia. But the 3000 series FE, that we have seen, appear to be an oddball design everyone else is happy to ignore. So that’s a tough one, at this time I would guess only the FE. And maybe some of the other AIB’s have collaborated or agreed upon a reference design, but so far it seems like there are no reference cards that any of them have in common.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 13:22:28 (permalink)
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why no pre orders? Tom from MLD was right:qty is extremely limited. Samsung with its 8nm failed.


Wow, great source backing up what you’re saying.

Oh wait. Please stop perpetuating bogus rumors. We have literally no official information about stock levels.

For all we know it’s just a sales tactic.



who is the good source? Clown from anandtech?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 13:36:09 (permalink)
I've heard from both retailers and friends with good connections there will be plenty of stock for a good few weeks.
 
If sources are to be believed Nvidia ran this launch event later than they initially wanted to, thus subsequently having longer to build up stock as a by-product the reason being it was still unclear to what extent COVID 19 was going to shut the world down. Turns out thankfully not as bad as the worst-case scenarios. So here we are. I wouldn't take stock in the cries of shortages before the damn things even go live to order. Let's all take a breath, as passionate as we all are, they're just computer parts.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 13:41:41 (permalink)
i want the biggest card available. is the hydro copper going to be a ftw 3 variant or based on the xc? it looks to have a smaller pcb.
should i get the aircooled ftw3 with an 3rd party waterblock or can i grad the hydro copper?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:25:49 (permalink)
For anyone who has purchased from EVGA on day 1 of a new GPU release, do they usually charge a premium for the non-liquid cooled and non-hybrid cards compared to the founder's edition cards? I set $700 as my ceiling for a GPU, but if there is a premium and it isn't more than $50, I would rather get an EVGA card since they are my favorite company to purchase GPUs from.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:30:42 (permalink)
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who is the good source? Clown from anandtech?



MLID is a terrible source.  The only things he ever got correctly were things that Kopite or Corgi had already claimed.  He has been grossly incorrect multiple times.  He also has been spreading false information, like PCIe 3.0 vs PCIe 4.0, and since he has enough of a following it is becoming widely distributed.  

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:38:30 (permalink)
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i want the biggest card available. is the hydro copper going to be a ftw 3 variant or based on the xc? it looks to have a smaller pcb.
should i get the aircooled ftw3 with an 3rd party waterblock or can i grad the hydro copper?


Both.  Go to concepts on the main page to see all planned cards.  They should eventually sell HC separately if you go that path(doesn't mean they will though)
 
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For anyone who has purchased from EVGA on day 1 of a new GPU release, do they usually charge a premium for the non-liquid cooled and non-hybrid cards compared to the founder's edition cards? I set $700 as my ceiling for a GPU, but if there is a premium and it isn't more than $50, I would rather get an EVGA card since they are my favorite company to purchase GPUs from.


 
I don't know exactly what you mean.  But their cards shouldn't be more at launch just because it is launch.  But the XC3 is kind of the base.  You will see FTW3, because it has a custom board, and Ultra, because theyre factory OCd, have a premium. 
post edited by Airikay - 2020/09/04 14:53:45

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:52:09 (permalink)
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i want the biggest card available. is the hydro copper going to be a ftw 3 variant or based on the xc? it looks to have a smaller pcb.
should i get the aircooled ftw3 with an 3rd party waterblock or can i grad the hydro copper?


HC is based on FTW3. So is the hybrid.
We don't know what block availability will be for the FTW. So we literally can't give you any relevant advice.
 
Thank being said, if given the choice, I would go with another block.
 
lazaro50
For anyone who has purchased from EVGA on day 1 of a new GPU release, do they usually charge a premium for the non-liquid cooled and non-hybrid cards compared to the founder's edition cards? I set $700 as my ceiling for a GPU, but if there is a premium and it isn't more than $50, I would rather get an EVGA card since they are my favorite company to purchase GPUs from.


Really hard to say.
Especially because this time around FE is not reference PCB, nor cooler.
Plus historically FE have actually been more expensive than MSRP. Which is not true this time around.
So all in all... we'll have to wait for the official pricing.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:54:18 (permalink)
Does anyone know the length of the 3080 and 3090 Hydro Copper?  Thanks!

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:58:40 (permalink)
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i want the biggest card available. is the hydro copper going to be a ftw 3 variant or based on the xc? it looks to have a smaller pcb.
should i get the aircooled ftw3 with an 3rd party waterblock or can i grad the hydro copper?


Both.  Go to concepts on the main page to see all planned cards.  They should eventually sell HC separately if you go that path(doesn't mean they will though)
 
lazaro50
For anyone who has purchased from EVGA on day 1 of a new GPU release, do they usually charge a premium for the non-liquid cooled and non-hybrid cards compared to the founder's edition cards? I set $700 as my ceiling for a GPU, but if there is a premium and it isn't more than $50, I would rather get an EVGA card since they are my favorite company to purchase GPUs from.


 
I don't know exactly what you mean.  But their cards shouldn't be more at launch just because it is launch.  But the XC3 is kind of the base.  You will see FTW3, because it has a custom board, and Ultra, because theyre factory OCd, have a premium. 


Got it. Thank you.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 14:59:51 (permalink)
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I've heard from both retailers and friends with good connections there will be plenty of stock for a good few weeks.
 
If sources are to be believed Nvidia ran this launch event later than they initially wanted to, thus subsequently having longer to build up stock as a by-product the reason being it was still unclear to what extent COVID 19 was going to shut the world down. Turns out thankfully not as bad as the worst-case scenarios. So here we are. I wouldn't take stock in the cries of shortages before the damn things even go live to order. Let's all take a breath, as passionate as we all are, they're just computer parts.



I've heard the opposite, unfortunately. Between COVID, production rate issues with the 8nm process and the rush to get to market before AMD, I've been told it's not gonna be so hot. I can't imagine there's gonna be a middle ground here. Either there is going to be pain and suffering like we haven't seen before, or its gonna somehow go smooth enough that we'll be using 3080s to pave roads. But from a business standpoint, the lack of pre-orders seems to suggest they'd rather deal with that backlash, than people ordering and then not seeing cards for months and months, OR that they have enough stock that they don't feel its worthwhile to do so. Hopefully my source is exaggerating and yours know better though.
post edited by ThaWhistle - 2020/09/04 15:02:18
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 15:01:02 (permalink)
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i want the biggest card available. is the hydro copper going to be a ftw 3 variant or based on the xc? it looks to have a smaller pcb.
should i get the aircooled ftw3 with an 3rd party waterblock or can i grad the hydro copper?


HC is based on FTW3. So is the hybrid.
We don't know what block availability will be for the FTW. So we literally can't give you any relevant advice.
 
Thank being said, if given the choice, I would go with another block.
 
lazaro50
For anyone who has purchased from EVGA on day 1 of a new GPU release, do they usually charge a premium for the non-liquid cooled and non-hybrid cards compared to the founder's edition cards? I set $700 as my ceiling for a GPU, but if there is a premium and it isn't more than $50, I would rather get an EVGA card since they are my favorite company to purchase GPUs from.


Really hard to say.
Especially because this time around FE is not reference PCB, nor cooler.
Plus historically FE have actually been more expensive than MSRP. Which is not true this time around.
So all in all... we'll have to wait for the official pricing.


Thank you.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 15:37:51 (permalink)
thank you for your replies. Much appreciated!
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 15:44:22 (permalink)
Welp, Im looking forward to the reviews I want to see how it matches up to my old GTX680 heat/watt wise.

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 15:50:06 (permalink)
That GTX680 has lasted you a while! Personally looking forward to upgrading from my 980 Ti Hybrid to a 3090.


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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 18:16:55 (permalink)
Is 3090 going to perform better than the 2080 to k|ngp|n?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 18:18:45 (permalink)
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Is 3090 going to perform better than the 2080 to k|ngp|n?

How the hell are we supposed to know?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 18:20:14 (permalink)
I hope these aren't a PITA to get, I sold my 1080ti before the Nvidia event at a high price.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 18:22:43 (permalink)
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I hope these aren't a PITA to get, I sold my 1080ti before the Nvidia event at a high price.


I think they are.  Just look at all the posts in this thread...the mass majority are people that just joined the forum in the last 2 weeks or so.  These are going to be hard to get unless they manufactured a ton of them. 
 
That is why I kind of wish EVGA would do a pre-order for long term members and people that have bought exclusive EVGA.  I have owned only EVGA GPU's since the 480.   

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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 18:25:02 (permalink)
So 3080 will be available on evga on the 17th and 3090 will be available on the 24th right?
 
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology! 2020/09/04 18:30:46 (permalink)
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So 3080 will be available on evga on the 17th and 3090 will be available on the 24th right?
 


Correct. 

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