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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 07:45:52
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Pricing will be lower than 580. What do you think is a fair price?
$399 would be the fair price IMHO!
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 08:19:16
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Well on newegg the evga gtx460 goes for 160. I know it won't happen but if you guys released this at $330-350 to fight the 6970 price/performance and give a big incentive to go against a 6990 you would have a awesome seller and true game and market changer. Also I have a question. Will this card work in a pc that isn't sli capable. I have a budget rig I am researching right now for someone and it supports crossfire and not sli. I would love to put this inside if it would work. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130591
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 08:42:54
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Also I realize at this price point it may cannibalize the 580 but the 580 is kind of niche. Popular on sites like this but in the real world most go for great mid range cards. And you guys could drop the price of the 580 to like 450ish, and that would give you more pricing room for the 590 I know you better have coming out and soon.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 08:45:06
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This card won't SLI with another card but itself is independent from any platform as long as you give it a 16x PCI-E slot. INTEL, AMD, or NVIDIA chipset, doesn't matter...
As to price, $399 seems fair but i808strafe is right, if EVGA can put it around $349, then this card would be a huge win. Then you can call it "triple the win", lol...
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 08:59:16
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Unfortunately this product does not currently support SLI.
Well guess what I'm going to be putting into a 2nd rig, I'm thinking micro mobo time for folding my friends!
I'm with SBB here, this bad boy is going into my 24/7 folding rig, especially since that MB can't SLI.
See, this is where I think this card will be popular. I know everyone is complaining about the lack of SLI, but this is perfect for boards that don't support SLI. And I'd LOVE to see this card in a MicroATX setup!
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 09:00:49
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gtx 460 sli is faster than a gtx 580. and a gtx 580 is very close to the 6990 performance range. Im certain the gtx 4602win will be as performant or more than the 6990 XD
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 09:33:27
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$400.00 to $430.00....because of its non-reference design it has added value....it has to be atleast that cause of the cost of the 580...it has huge advantage for those with an amd board...
nvidia probably said no way to quad sli....my 2 cents...
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 09:50:39
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I can understand the consumer hype/hope that we are wanting this card to be cheaper than a pair of GTX460's to imply a better deal, but Jacob mentioned limited quantity meaning a smaller intended run and not continually restocked for as much as a year like their reference models. I figure the last thing EVGA needs is more demand than a pair of reference GTX460's, therefore pricing this graphics card less than a pair of GTX460's actually makes no business sense -- unless EVGA converted all leftover GTX460 orders to 2win and they either cannot or will not restock GTX460's. garadante
Will it still be considered a very low-end GPU as it's GF104? Low-end isn't be some classification of whatever isn't good enough for us for graphics cards it is a price category from about $100 on down (before discounts). In reality, the slowest versions of GF108 are the true very low-ends.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 10:11:32
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$350 would be an incredibly appealing number, I may be able to persuade the missus into having a valid reason for it then.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 10:21:58
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 10:28:12
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gtx 460 sli is faster than a gtx 580. and a gtx 580 is very close to the 6990 performance range. Im certain the gtx 4602win will be as performant or more than the 6990 XD
I don't think this will outrun a 6990.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 10:37:03
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gtx 460 sli is faster than a gtx 580. and a gtx 580 is very close to the 6990 performance range. Im certain the gtx 4602win will be as performant or more than the 6990 XD
I don't think this will outrun a 6990.
+1....it wont come close to touching it....
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 11:05:42
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Hello
I have 2 GTX 295, do you think your new card will be better than my 2 cards togeather ?
I have just purchased the ad'hox screen but I feel it doesn't work well with my machine.
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The Quad SLI 295's should be faster than SLI 460s in pretty much any scenario that supports SLI. But, the 2Win would be a bit faster than a single 295.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 11:11:57
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i remember someone making a Dual GPU card that was targeted at those who want to use the second GPU for physx and not SLI, or can this setup be used by any dual GPU card? I remember it being the gtx270+gts250with 256MB of physx dedicated memory
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 11:47:45
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gtx 460 sli is faster than a gtx 580. and a gtx 580 is very close to the 6990 performance range. Im certain the gtx 4602win will be as performant or more than the 6990 XD
With all due respect; you Sir do not know what you are talking about. I don't know what your sources are or where you got your information from; but a single GTX 580 performs nowhere near a HD 6990. A 6990 performs equally with GTX 570's SLI and in extreme resolutions, even beats GTX 580's SLI due to memory advantage. I suggest you check out this review: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/41404-amd-radeon-hd-6990-4gb-review.html Besides that, dual GTX 460's are not significantly faster than a 580; as you can see on the Unigine Heaven graph, the performance boost only lies somewhere between 8 and 10% which is even an exceptional case since in games, they will pretty much just equal a 580. (not to mention the 0,5 GB memory disadvantage.) So please get your facts straights next time in order to prevent confusion. On topic: Great card, I've always been waiting for a dual GTX 460's but in all honesty; it should have came out much earlier. Nonetheless I think it's going to be a good bang for a buck considering it will be cheaper than a 580. Fair prize I would say is 399$. And is there ANY chance you guys (or nVidia) are going to modify the drivers so it will work in SLI ? I still have a single GTX 460 1GB lying around and this would be an amazing opportunity to upgrade to a "3-way" 460 system.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:01:15
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gtx 460 sli is faster than a gtx 580. and a gtx 580 is very close to the 6990 performance range. Im certain the gtx 4602win will be as performant or more than the 6990 XD
With all due respect; you Sir do not know what you are talking about.
I don't know what your sources are or where you got your information from; but a single GTX 580 performs nowhere near a HD 6990.
A 6990 performs equally with GTX 570's SLI and in extreme resolutions, even beats GTX 580's SLI due to memory advantage.
I suggest you check out this review: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/41404-amd-radeon-hd-6990-4gb-review.html
Besides that, dual GTX 460's are not significantly faster than a 580; as you can see on the Unigine Heaven graph, the performance boost only lies somewhere between 8 and 10% which is even an exceptional case since in games, they will pretty much just equal a 580. (not to mention the 0,5 GB memory disadvantage.)
So please get your facts straights next time in order to prevent confusion.
On topic:
Great card, I've always been waiting for a dual GTX 460's but in all honesty; it should have came out much earlier.
Nonetheless I think it's going to be a good bang for a buck considering it will be cheaper than a 580.
Fair prize I would say is 399$.
And is there ANY chance you guys (or nVidia) are going to modify the drivers so it will work in SLI ?
I still have a single GTX 460 1GB lying around and this would be an amazing opportunity to upgrade to a "3-way" 460 system.
You might want to get your facts straight yourself. Even at the extreme resolutions the 6990 very rarely beat the SLi 580 in the link you provided, matter of fact it lost to the SLi 570 a few times.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:13:19
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399.99-429.99 is totally reasonable in my eyes.
It's only 1gb Vram per GPU so...crank up the AA and the resolution and tell me if it beats a 580. no :) Ppl always forget that part.
The "590" should be a more impressive piece, I really can't wait.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:13:43
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gtx 460 sli is faster than a gtx 580. and a gtx 580 is very close to the 6990 performance range. Im certain the gtx 4602win will be as performant or more than the 6990 XD
With all due respect; you Sir do not know what you are talking about.
I don't know what your sources are or where you got your information from; but a single GTX 580 performs nowhere near a HD 6990.
A 6990 performs equally with GTX 570's SLI and in extreme resolutions, even beats GTX 580's SLI due to memory advantage.
I suggest you check out this review: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/41404-amd-radeon-hd-6990-4gb-review.html
Besides that, dual GTX 460's are not significantly faster than a 580; as you can see on the Unigine Heaven graph, the performance boost only lies somewhere between 8 and 10% which is even an exceptional case since in games, they will pretty much just equal a 580. (not to mention the 0,5 GB memory disadvantage.)
So please get your facts straights next time in order to prevent confusion.
On topic:
Great card, I've always been waiting for a dual GTX 460's but in all honesty; it should have came out much earlier.
Nonetheless I think it's going to be a good bang for a buck considering it will be cheaper than a 580.
Fair prize I would say is 399$.
And is there ANY chance you guys (or nVidia) are going to modify the drivers so it will work in SLI ?
I still have a single GTX 460 1GB lying around and this would be an amazing opportunity to upgrade to a "3-way" 460 system.
You might want to get your facts straight yourself. Even at the extreme resolutions the 6990 very rarely beat the SLi 580 in the link you provided, matter of fact it lost to the SLi 570 a few times.
ok missed a word there. Was going to say " sometimes even beats GTX 580 SLI at extreme resolutions." And yes, it looses to GTX 570 SLI in some games but then again beats GTX 570 SLI at the other half of games. So yes, performance is quite equal and you're just being nit-picky. Also, it's not like I'm basing my satement on this one review only. Obviously, I'm not going to spend an hour searching for all reviews and post links in here, this was just supposed to be one example.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:15:36
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I was gonna jump on it and sell my 570 SCs if they were good but then i saw the cant SLI these babies. Bummer. Might get it for my older rig though. Hope it sells for a friendly price (350-400 would be fair)
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:27:04
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.....GTX 590? 
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:33:19
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.....GTX 590?
No, this is not the GTX 590. 
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:35:59
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My comment on "will this be considered a low-end GPU" is only in reference to the Step-Up program, where it specifically and adamantly states that you can only Step-Up to a superior series GPU. Which means if this card is considered the GF104 core, than hardly anybody could Step-Up to it considering they'd need a 450 or lower, yet even if I unlocked the GTX 470 specs of my full memory module 465, I'd be sorely tempted to Step-Up to this GTX 460 2WIN -if- EVGA allows it, because that's technically a 'downgrade' in GPU cores, which as I said, is specifically denied.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:43:06
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Pricing will be lower than 580. What do you think is a fair price?
I would certainly purchase several of these around the $350 price range. The real selling point for me is the 3+ displays from a single card with decent chipset.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:44:58
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sometimes I feel you guys think that EVGA only markets to forum members.   for everyone running sli how many do you think are running single cards? just see it for what it is. A great solution that has better performance and price then a 580, plus DX11 and 3d surround on a single card. Not really a main rig replacement for me. but you know I'm e-mailing the link and my affiliate code to everyone I know running one card 
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 12:53:20
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Seems like a experiment or gap-filler to me, a temporary fix, considering the limited run. Get it while you can. Peter Northbridge
It's only 1gb Vram per GPU so...crank up the AA and the resolution and tell me if it beats a 580. no :) Ppl always forget that part. Most folks are limited by their usage senarios; they aren't wrong if they were to make such claims, but then they should not treat their experiences as final say or obvious, as by then they would become wrong. All we can do is ask people to state under which configuration and game settings does one card beat another to prevent generalizations and the flames that can result. 
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 13:57:03
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that thing is huge, gaudy and mean looking. i love it. but the question remains, why not 2 580's on a single card?
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 14:29:43
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.....GTX 590?
No, this is not the GTX 590.
*whew* Here I thought this $700 in my pocket and months of waiting was all for nothing.....
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 14:49:31
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Just bought a 560ti..... i got it! 460 with a 560 PhysX!
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
2011/03/11 15:49:36
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It looks to me like Nvidia is doing this to offload more 460 gpus. The reason I say that is Galaxy has their own dual 460 coming out also(Im not linking cause I dont know if it is ok but your smart, google it) so this isnt just something that EVGA decided to do on their own.
If you look at the 460x2 pcb that Galaxy has, there is NO SLI connector at all. There has been some questions about EVGA's version maybe down the road through a bios update that it may support it. I highly doubt that beause if you could quad these, Nvidia would be castrating their own markets so its out of the question.
Its also mentions on the Galaxy article that they are doing a 560ti version later but the old 460 chips will go first.
I already run 2 460's so Im really waiting for the 22nd to see how much the 590 will be. Judging on $700 price point the 6990 is asking, Im sure it will be around there.
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Re:Introducing the EVGA GTX 460 2Win!
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how do you escape trolls? lol
They hide under that darn bridge so well.
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