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Review can be seen here.  
 
With that said, this is a great VALUE for a 18-Core HEDT CPU.  I know, I'm shocked too.   

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/24 22:29:16 (permalink)
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/24 23:36:51 (permalink)
    I need to update my 7800X, this may do the trick.
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/25 01:00:55 (permalink)
    Gamers Nexus Review
     
    Its basically what we expected a slightly higher clocked i9-7980xe, Intel basically is doing what AMD did with the 5.0 Ghz FX-8350. When you are behind in IPC just throw efficiency out the window and clock'm high :-)
     
     
     
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/25 03:55:28 (permalink)
    And it's soldered again, just like Skylake-X refresh.

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/25 05:44:13 (permalink)
    Need to see those benchmarks .... that is a big price bump from the chip just below this one
     

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/25 14:25:26 (permalink)
    Thank AMD

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/25 22:40:21 (permalink)
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    It seems to only be better for the improved security over last gen when you need exclusive features such as AVX-512.  Otherwise it seems AMD has the security and performance.

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/27 04:56:48 (permalink)
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    Its basically what we expected a slightly higher clocked i9-7980xe, Intel basically is doing what AMD did with the 5.0 Ghz FX-8350. When you are behind in IPC just throw efficiency out the window and clock'm high :-)
     
     
     


    The Gamers Nexus review was not too kind towards the Intel 10980XE processor. 

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/27 10:23:19 (permalink)
    Here is another really solid review for the new CPU:
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i9_10980xe_processor_review,1.html
     
    Power usage with a 5.0GHz OC on all cores for this processor was pretty crazy... Nearly 600w under custom water cooling. If you all ready have the platform, it's not that bad of an option.

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/27 10:36:17 (permalink)
    Recommended PSU for 10980XE and EVGA RTX2080Ti K|NGP|N in combination is 1000W if people don't want extreme OC. 
    Little overclocked CPU and GPU on fabric clock could work perfectly nice on 1000 T2.
     
     
    But no place for complain, because that type of hardware is not comparable with normal mainstream processors and RTX2080Ti GPU.
    Let's say power consumption is part of price people need to pay like cars when need more fuel.
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/29 06:58:03 (permalink)
    Interesting.  Go to Newegg right now and you will see where they have put pricing on the Cascade X series of processors.  $699 for 10 core; $799 for 12 core; $899 for 14 core and $999 for 16 core.  Price vs performance is a joke!  If this is the pricing that Intel thinks will keep them in the game...they are sadly mistaken.  Example...a 12 core Ryzen plus motherboard will cost the same as the 12 core Intel processor...and Intel loses in performance.  YES...core clock wins with games...but...

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/29 09:43:17 (permalink)
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    Interesting.  Go to Newegg right now and you will see where they have put pricing on the Cascade X series of processors.  $699 for 10 core; $799 for 12 core; $899 for 14 core and $999 for 16 core.  Price vs performance is a joke!  If this is the pricing that Intel thinks will keep them in the game...they are sadly mistaken.  Example...a 12 core Ryzen plus motherboard will cost the same as the 12 core Intel processor...and Intel loses in performance.  YES...core clock wins with games...but...




    Yeah, if the i9 10900X was around $400, I would consider it an OK deal compared to Ryzen, really feels like they need to do another 50% cut before I would really consider them. -- On a side note, Microcenter has i9 9820X's on sale for $350, if you can get one of those, then it's not too bad of a deal.

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/29 14:36:30 (permalink)
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    Interesting.  Go to Newegg right now and you will see where they have put pricing on the Cascade X series of processors.  $699 for 10 core; $799 for 12 core; $899 for 14 core and $999 for 16 core.  Price vs performance is a joke!  If this is the pricing that Intel thinks will keep them in the game...they are sadly mistaken.  Example...a 12 core Ryzen plus motherboard will cost the same as the 12 core Intel processor...and Intel loses in performance.  YES...core clock wins with games...but...




    Yeah, if the i9 10900X was around $400, I would consider it an OK deal compared to Ryzen, really feels like they need to do another 50% cut before I would really consider them. -- On a side note, Microcenter has i9 9820X's on sale for $350, if you can get one of those, then it's not too bad of a deal.




    None available at my Microcenter.  Funny how Intel slashed the prices of the 99XX gen processors...but ONLY Microcenter cut their prices.  Newegg, CDW and Amazon are still original pricing.  Talk about greedy

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 04:42:35 (permalink)
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    None available at my Microcenter.  Funny how Intel slashed the prices of the 99XX gen processors...but ONLY Microcenter cut their prices.  Newegg, CDW and Amazon are still original pricing.  Talk about greedy




    Standard practice with computer tech that gets price chopped at or right after launch. Prices won't change to the lower values until supply catches up, until then retailers are going to take full advantage of people using the original pricing info. 


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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 12:35:07 (permalink)
    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 13:06:03 (permalink)
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol


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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 13:37:12 (permalink)
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

    Why would you want one? The reviews are terrible. "Most disappointing CPU of 2019" according to Gamers Nexus.

    It's a cheaper and slower 9980XE. There are better options.
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 16:01:09 (permalink)
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

    Why would you want one? The reviews are terrible. "Most disappointing CPU of 2019" according to Gamers Nexus.

    It's a cheaper and slower 9980XE. There are better options.

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 16:35:33 (permalink)
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

    Why would you want one? The reviews are terrible. "Most disappointing CPU of 2019" according to Gamers Nexus.

    It's a cheaper and slower 9980XE. There are better options.

     
    I get it but I'm in a particular position and basically my only option.  I purchased a X299 DARK via EVGA credit.  Had some funds on the side so in essence, this is the best route for me to take otherwise if there were AMD boards on EVGA.com, it would have been an easier switch.
     
    Also, they will be updating the Microcode to increase the performance as I was surprised to see it beat by the older SKU.  It made no sense unless to justify the 50% reduction in price, there were the worst binned CPUs between the two and saved to be sold at a later date as a new SKU (now).  Who knows...  I just hope future updates show this thing beating its older cousin and throwing a few punches to team red but nothing will compare to their HEDT platform plus, their pricing is way out of my budget.  10980XE is my best bet.
     
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

    Why would you want one? The reviews are terrible. "Most disappointing CPU of 2019" according to Gamers Nexus.

    It's a cheaper and slower 9980XE. There are better options.

    is cool ty_ger07, ese.  He is loyal till the end, it is too bad though. I would have to use the magic sprinkles afterwards
     
     




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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 16:39:44 (permalink)
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

    Why would you want one? The reviews are terrible. "Most disappointing CPU of 2019" according to Gamers Nexus.

    It's a cheaper and slower 9980XE. There are better options.



    It makes sense for some, if you had for example really nice 7900x build then it would be a good decent upgrade. That has more to do with the 7900x just aging terribly than anything else though.
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 19:02:27 (permalink)
    The question everyone should be asking right now: solder or paste?

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 19:18:27 (permalink)
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    The question everyone should be asking right now: solder or paste?

    It is soldered.  What is the question?  Is the question: "Which do you prefer?"?  According to Gamers Nexus, the soldered IHS is a mixed blessing.  Good for some.  But bad for others who are doing extreme overclocking and would prefer direct die contact.
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 19:57:10 (permalink)
    Attempting to take off a soldered-on plate is way overkill. Thermal transmissivity of solder is equivalent to direct contact. Anyone risking there processor to “out-perform” soldered contact doesn’t know what they’re doing and has never taken university level course in thermodynamics...

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 21:33:30 (permalink)
    Waiting for the 10980XE to come in stock so i can have a backup CPU.


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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 21:51:38 (permalink)
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    Waiting for the 10980XE to come in stock so i can have a backup CPU.


    Due to Intel's productions issues that may be awhile. I was told this was mainly a paper launch and not to expect any real stock until 2020, of course production issues were supposed to be better by now and is not so anybody's guess.
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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 22:29:19 (permalink)
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    It's sold out everywhere.  Can't get my hands on one. lol

    Why would you want one? The reviews are terrible. "Most disappointing CPU of 2019" according to Gamers Nexus.

    It's a cheaper and slower 9980XE. There are better options.

    is cool ty_ger07, ese.  He is loyal till the end, it is too bad though. I would have to use the magic sprinkles afterwards
     
     




    Still drinking that koolaid I see.





    Oh you bet!.  Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for ya

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/11/30 22:54:14 (permalink)
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    Oh you bet!.  Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for ya




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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/12/01 07:39:15 (permalink)
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    Interesting.  Go to Newegg right now and you will see where they have put pricing on the Cascade X series of processors.  $699 for 10 core; $799 for 12 core; $899 for 14 core and $999 for 16 core.  Price vs performance is a joke!  If this is the pricing that Intel thinks will keep them in the game...they are sadly mistaken.  Example...a 12 core Ryzen plus motherboard will cost the same as the 12 core Intel processor...and Intel loses in performance.  YES...core clock wins with games...but...




    Yeah, if the i9 10900X was around $400, I would consider it an OK deal compared to Ryzen, really feels like they need to do another 50% cut before I would really consider them. -- On a side note, Microcenter has i9 9820X's on sale for $350, if you can get one of those, then it's not too bad of a deal.




    None available at my Microcenter.  Funny how Intel slashed the prices of the 99XX gen processors...but ONLY Microcenter cut their prices.  Newegg, CDW and Amazon are still original pricing.  Talk about greedy




    Keep checking daily. They just posted an i9 9940X for $599 today. I'm so tempted to go grab it.

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    Re: Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: 18-Core Cascade Lake-X Battles AMD 2019/12/01 08:22:46 (permalink)
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    Oh you bet!.  Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for ya




    Will do!  

    He's really going to buy one?!? Why?!? For what application? There are way better CPUs for gaming. And there are way better CPUs for creators. It's not really the right CPU for either application. Even in the price range, there is at least one CPU which is the same or better for cheaper. Read the reviews man! It's a refresh, and it is slower than a 9980XE. Even if you absolutely hate AMD, it still makes little sense; you can buy a used 7980XE right now, for cheaper, and it will perform better.
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