ty_ger07GTXJackBaueratfricoOh you bet!. Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for yaWill do! He's really going to buy one?!? Why?!? For what application? There are way better CPUs for gaming. And there are way better CPUs for creators. It's not really the right CPU for either application. Even in the price range, there is at least one CPU which is the same or better for cheaper. Read the reviews man! It's a refresh, and it is slower than a 9980XE. Even if you absolutely hate AMD, it still makes little sense; you can buy a used 7980XE right now, for cheaper, and it will perform better.
GTXJackBaueratfricoOh you bet!. Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for yaWill do!
atfricoOh you bet!. Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for ya
RainStrykety_ger07GTXJackBaueratfricoOh you bet!. Let me know when you buy the CPU so i can add the magic sprinkles for yaWill do! He's really going to buy one?!? Why?!? For what application? There are way better CPUs for gaming. And there are way better CPUs for creators. It's not really the right CPU for either application. Even in the price range, there is at least one CPU which is the same or better for cheaper. Read the reviews man! It's a refresh, and it is slower than a 9980XE. Even if you absolutely hate AMD, it still makes little sense; you can buy a used 7980XE right now, for cheaper, and it will perform better.Having to switch platforms is the main issue. Sure you can go with a cheaper motherboard, but most won't want to sacrifice on features to move. The switch then requires another 300+ on a board to make the switch.
GTXJackBauerTyger, you're being too aggressive and need a blue chill pill. I don't need to explain to you or anyone why I use the HEDT platform but as I said earlier, I can't wait to grab a i9-10980XE because it's not the best or the worst chip on the planet. I have my reasons why I want to and will not share it with you any further so you can criticize my decision and for the record, this decision wasn't based on being a 'fan boy' either for some that might misinterpret my comments. That is all from my end. Hope you're day is going well too.
vegajf51GTXJackBauerTyger, you're being too aggressive and need a blue chill pill. I don't need to explain to you or anyone why I use the HEDT platform but as I said earlier, I can't wait to grab a i9-10980XE because it's not the best or the worst chip on the planet. I have my reasons why I want to and will not share it with you any further so you can criticize my decision and for the record, this decision wasn't based on being a 'fan boy' either for some that might misinterpret my comments. That is all from my end. Hope you're day is going well too.Well said, no need to explain to anyone why or what you spend your hard earned money on. Also its not a terrible CPU people, just not a good value(most HEDT isn't though), hell a few years ago when the slow 10 core 6950x was $1700 this CPU would have been jaw a dropping good value. Also if you already have a nice X299 setup its a great upgrade if on lower core count CPU.
ty_ger07 Alright, enjoy "the most disappointing CPU of 2019".
atfrico Funny how the table turns right? Ironic is it not? when table turns to those that were bashing the underdog all this time (AMD) now they are hurt that Intel is not longer the so called Titan, monopoly, dominated force. Like it or not, it is said and done, Intel does not longer dominates the CPU market anymore. Dell calling out Intel is completely an embarrassment. Where are the profits Intel gain all these years?
GTXJackBauervegajf51GTXJackBauerTyger, you're being too aggressive and need a blue chill pill. I don't need to explain to you or anyone why I use the HEDT platform but as I said earlier, I can't wait to grab a i9-10980XE because it's not the best or the worst chip on the planet. I have my reasons why I want to and will not share it with you any further so you can criticize my decision and for the record, this decision wasn't based on being a 'fan boy' either for some that might misinterpret my comments. That is all from my end. Hope you're day is going well too.Well said, no need to explain to anyone why or what you spend your hard earned money on. Also its not a terrible CPU people, just not a good value(most HEDT isn't though), hell a few years ago when the slow 10 core 6950x was $1700 this CPU would have been jaw a dropping good value. Also if you already have a nice X299 setup its a great upgrade if on lower core count CPU. Appreciate that. It's just in my case, its makes more sense for me to go this route otherwise it would actually cost me more out of pocket to make the switch plus, I'd like to stick with EVGA Support cause they rock. I guess I'm a Intel, Nvidia and EVGA fanboy now. ty_ger07 Alright, enjoy "the most disappointing CPU of 2019". atfrico Funny how the table turns right? Ironic is it not? when table turns to those that were bashing the underdog all this time (AMD) now they are hurt that Intel is not longer the so called Titan, monopoly, dominated force. Like it or not, it is said and done, Intel does not longer dominates the CPU market anymore. Dell calling out Intel is completely an embarrassment. Where are the profits Intel gain all these years?What in the hell are you mumbling about? AMD finally beat intel in the CPUs and it hasn't been even a year yet versus intel's 10+??? This is a joke if you want to go toe to toe. I suspect intel is pulling back so they don't get slapped by anti-trust lawsuits since they dominated for so long and still do in market share. It will take TIME for AMD to take a few sprinkles off but by than, Intel will be back into the game. The jokes on you sprinkle dust. Oh and btw, let me add this tidbit. Source
Vlada011I don't know why someone say reviews about Cascade Lake-X are terrible and people shouldn't buy.Cascade Lake-X with 18 core have significant frequency for so many cores and it's great gaming audio/video editing processors for amateurs and home users. More then enough. You don't need to tolerate 3.5GHz all the time because insane number of cores. My recommendation for hard core gaming RIG go exactly to 10900X/10920X or 10980XE depend of budget.
atfricoThe CPU is terrible for the price and performance. Intel is following Nvidia shannigans, overpricing products with a refresh of the same tech. In another words i find it insulting these companies treat their customers like they are dumb people who don't have the brains to know they are being overcharged. You are paying more due to its name brand that is it. AMD have to charge according to its performance not brand name.
Vlada011You want to say that Threadripper on lower frequency have higher fps then Intel Cascade Lake-X in games with max usage 4-6 cores?
Vlada011You want to say that Threadripper on lower frequency have higher fps then Intel Cascade Lake-X in games with max usage 4-6 cores?How?Anyway gaming PC will soon to become one board size Mini ITX with build in processor,graphic processor and some excellent Sound chip with 150W power consumption.
Vlada011Anyway gaming PC will soon to become one board size Mini ITX with build in processor,graphic processor and some excellent Sound chip with 150W power consumption.
RainStrykeI just spent some time messing around with a i9 9820X this weekend and it wasn't anything special on my X299 set-up and it's actually worse than my i7 7820X when it came down to gaming... My i7 9700K has been hitting 100% CPU utilization while playing some of the more recent games. I spent about 10 hours of today messing around with the i9 9900K and i9 9900KS. My G.Skill memory does not work with it's XMP profile on the i9 9900K. It does work on the i9 9900KS, but it blue screens every 20 minutes or so. They both run really hot too... So they both were returned. My RAM is listed on the QVL list for the Gigabyte X570 Master board... I'll likely pick up a 3900X, a PCI-E 4.0 drive and that Gigabyte board up after work tomorrow to see the difference...
bobmitchRainStrykeI just spent some time messing around with a i9 9820X this weekend and it wasn't anything special on my X299 set-up and it's actually worse than my i7 7820X when it came down to gaming... My i7 9700K has been hitting 100% CPU utilization while playing some of the more recent games. I spent about 10 hours of today messing around with the i9 9900K and i9 9900KS. My G.Skill memory does not work with it's XMP profile on the i9 9900K. It does work on the i9 9900KS, but it blue screens every 20 minutes or so. They both run really hot too... So they both were returned. My RAM is listed on the QVL list for the Gigabyte X570 Master board... I'll likely pick up a 3900X, a PCI-E 4.0 drive and that Gigabyte board up after work tomorrow to see the difference...From all the benchmark websites I have checked out...the 9820X was called "7820X Extreme". However...the issue was...that with the lower cost, one had to accept lower clocks and higher voltages. So in order to get the most out of the 9820X, you had to manipulate the voltage and clocks in order to get better than 7820X performance. I spent some appreciable time with some folks at techpowerup.com and kept massaging my 7820X until I found the sweet spot. My goal was to up performance, per core...while keeping voltages low enough to keep temps below 90C. The sweet spot, for my X299 FTW K is 1.17 V with all core at 46 and mesh at 30. At full load, my CPU runs at 84C maxxed out. I can get 4.8 GHZ on all core at 1.19 v, but the temps of the chip reach 92C at full load, which made me uncomfortable. I will keep at 4.6 and my performance in Cinebench R20 is pretty decent. I can live with this for now. There is no question that the new AMD Ryzen series is a better value. Intel has overpriced "Cascade Lake X) by anywhere from $100-$150 per chip level. The 10900X is supposed to be $599, but anyone who has it in stock is charging $699. The 10920X is supposed to be $699 but right now can be found at $799 and so on. Intel should be charging $499 for the 10900X and $549 for the 10920X and things would be more interesting. The 10980X is $999 and can be found for $1099...vendors are showing greed...and frankly price vs performance is really low with Intel right now. For $999 you can get the AMD Ryzen 9 3950 and a good motherboard. For the price of the 10920X (12 core), you can get a Ryzen 9 3900X (12 core) and a 570 chipset motherboard. The performance leans toward Ryzen, right now...because single core is on par with Intel, but multicore is owned by AMD. I am sitting on the money I put aside to upgrade (my true wish was to keep my EVGA X299 FTW K motherboard and upgrade the processor), but Intel and vendors are making it difficult because they still overvalue their product line...then with vendors inflating the price...it becomes ridiculous! So for now...I tweaked my 7820X and am satisfied enough to let time pass, to see where it all goes...
RainStrykeThe Ryzen 9 3950X is very hard to obtain though.It does look like the i9 10900X is in stock now:https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671%2050001157%20601345721&Manufactory=1157 That's probably the best for gaming since it's base/boost frequencies are a little higher.
rjohnson11atfricoThe CPU is terrible for the price and performance. Intel is following Nvidia shannigans, overpricing products with a refresh of the same tech. In another words i find it insulting these companies treat their customers like they are dumb people who don't have the brains to know they are being overcharged. You are paying more due to its name brand that is it. AMD have to charge according to its performance not brand name.The Ryzen 9 3950X is a better choice and has less heat if you want more than 12 cores.
GTXJackBauerI'd be interesting in the 3950X but I don't like its limitations on PCIe Lanes. 3960X is way out of budget hence my decision on the 10980XE.
random_mattIs the 7920/40X a better buy? I can actually get them cheaper and have a delid tool.
ty_ger07Or, if games is not his intended application, you can buy a used 7980XE, right now (you don't even have to wait!), and the used 7980XE is clock-for-clock often faster than a 10980XE and is cheaper than a 10980XE. ... New 7980XE open box: https://www.ebay.com/itm/...PROCESSOR/183878245385 $999Used 7980XE: https://www.ebay.com/itm/...n-Lottery/223765499591 $950 - already delidded and relidded by silicon lottery
vegajf51random_mattIs the 7920/40X a better buy? I can actually get them cheaper and have a delid tool.If cheaper then probably.