Yes it looks like AMD finally scared Intel enough for them to bring out LARGE multi-core processors at lower prices. It remains to be seen what 3rd gen AMD Threadripper can do. 

Chart with prices in the linked article - Has Errors
 
Core i9 10980XE - 18 Core x $54 = $972 ---> Not $2000 

ty_ger07
Keep it real. Temper your expectations. Don't wish so hard that you loose grasp of objectivity.

QFT.


Going by Siliconlottery's historical binning statistics of all samples they test gives us an idea of the likelihood of a particular overclock:

Core i9-7980XE (2.6GHz base, 4.2GHz Turbo 2.0, 4.4GHz Turbo 3.0):
4.1GHz -- 100% -- implies guaranteed overclock.
4.2GHz -- 89%
4.3GHz -- 72%
4.4GHz -- 35%
4.5GHz -- 8%
4.6GHz -- 2%

Core i9-9980XE (3.0GHz base, 4.4GHz Turbo 2.0, 4.5GHz Turbo 3.0):
4.1GHz -- 100% -- implies guaranteed overclock.
4.2GHz -- 94%
4.3GHz -- 78%
4.4GHz -- 30%
4.5GHz -- 12%
4.6GHz -- 4%

Core i9-10980XE (3.0GHz base, 4.6GHz Turbo 2.0, 4.7GHz Turbo 3.0):
I don't know about anyone, but I have skepticism that 5.1GHz on water is typical, considering previous two Lake-X's in the X299 chipset.  In fact, if any reviewers reach 5GHz, then we know they were cherry-picked and anyone buying the processor will be convinced they bought a dud.

GTXJackBauer
Hey Lehpron, how are the IPC performances for the 10980XE looking?  Thinking about grabbing one but not 100% sure yet.  Mind you I'd be coming from a 6-core 5930K/X99.

I would guess 20% max on single core, 10% architectural and 10% due to more shared cache available to active cores. Of course the single core turbo is set higher at 4.7GHz, maybe another 10%, depending on your overclock.


Shared cache memory is why I went for Broadwell-C, the eDRAM was meant as video memory for the IGP, but in the presence of a dedicated card, 128MB shared goes to the CPU and it makes a difference. My equivalent single core IPC gain will be less than or equal to what you're looking at if I got 10980XE, which is kind of in my budget too.

But I wonder if Zen 2 cores are limited to the 16MB per CCX or have access to the mirrored cache in the I/O die. If so, then Threadripper 24-core with the massive 128MB in the I/O die is something to consider.

But we have to wait for November to compare both of them.

Edit 8 hours later : If willing to wait, get Rocket Lake (11th Gen?) because despite the codename, it uses the Cove family architecture instead of the Lake family architecture. The much hyped 18% IPC is possible.

lehpron

GTXJackBauer
Hey Lehpron, how are the IPC performances for the 10980XE looking?  Thinking about grabbing one but not 100% sure yet.  Mind you I'd be coming from a 6-core 5930K/X99.

I would guess 20% max on single core, 10% architectural and 10% due to more shared cache available to active cores. Of course the single core turbo is set higher at 4.7GHz, maybe another 10%, depending on your overclock.


Shared cache memory is why I went for Broadwell-C, the eDRAM was meant as video memory for the IGP, but in the presence of a dedicated card, 128MB shared goes to the CPU and it makes a difference. My equivalent single core IPC gain will be less than or equal to what you're looking at if I got 10980XE, which is kind of in my budget too.

But I wonder if Zen 2 cores are limited to the 16MB per CCX or have access to the mirrored cache in the I/O die. If so, then Threadripper 24-core with the massive 128MB in the I/O die is something to consider.

But we have to wait for November to compare both of them.

Edit 8 hours later : If willing to wait, get Rocket Lake (11th Gen?) because despite the codename, it uses the Cove family architecture instead of the Lake family architecture. The much hyped 18% IPC is possible.

You got me thinking but don't think I could wait till 2021 for Rocket Lake and here I'm seeing that it would still be on the 14nm platform.  I think around that time or in 2022 we would supposedly see 7nm from intel but that's just too long of a wait.

I'm really eyeing this 18-core + Windows 10 Update while coming from this 6-core OC'd @ 4.3/4.4Ghz.  I feel my current CPU and GPU don't match well in badly optimized games and in need of better CPU power to handle.  My CPU is already at the 80%-90% while gaming in BFV @ 1440p/144hz on Ultra settings.  Tired of getting these spikes which I think could be related to my CPU load as well.