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2022/04/11 18:11:08 (permalink)
Probably overthinking it but I feel the manual could have used at least a word or two besides the basic photo, I have a WD black 1tb sn850 and just want to make sure I optimize the thermal pads with it.
 
Orange circle 1, pro tip use 5mm socket to remove because the teeth will pop off just breaking the factory torque when loosened. Probably didn't need to remove but was just following directions in order.
 
Orange circle 2 **** My problem mostly stemmed from not realizing the included screws separated into a riser and a screw and was attempting to use as a screw only ****
 
Square 3, assumedly I put a thermal pad here? seems strange to sit over a chip in first 2 boxes and flush in last one, im so hesitant to place something over multiple solderings out of fear lol. The thinner pad if double sided nvme and thicker if single sided. Both sizes provided. I dont quite see how this helps transfer heat if anyone can explain be greatly appreciated. also can I use a another piece to extend (fill in) until the mounting screw? any benefit of this? does it transfer heat on that side to motherboard or is it more for stability?
 
 

 

 

 
This is the manual, step one remove cover and screws, check
step two remove the screws that mounted the heatsink (not required for shorter cards remember 5mm not screw driver)
step 3 grey square assumedly thermal pad? peel both sides? (probably unfounded fear of conductivity)
step 4 lay in and press down the nvme (assume find extra screws and separate into a riser and install prior to nvme)
step 5 im guessing the arrow means use screw
step 6 replace heatsink, assuming remove the backing off of it first
 
I have done plain installs of NVME before and seemed more straight forward, being a performance build and pricey i am being extra careful but i cannot be the only one struggling here?
 
any help appreciated, I will update thread as I figure it out or answers are provided. Thank you
post edited by mallorian - 2022/04/11 21:18:26
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/11 22:06:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mallorian 2022/04/12 13:38:41
I just used the one pad in the outlined area, and used the provided tiny screw for the NVME, I mounted (2) drives, used (2) pads.  As for transferring heat its probably very low thermal transfer pad in terms of W/M-K. 


 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/12 12:04:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mallorian 2022/04/12 13:38:34
any time you install a thermal pad on anything, you always need to peel off the plastic. the pad can't do its job with a layer of plastic in the mix. looks like you figured it out tho, good work
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/12 13:26:24 (permalink)
Definitely got it in once I figured out the screw situation (took me a bit longer than I care to admit haha) I just wasnt sure what the bottom pads real job was, definitely not my most intuitive moments here but I still dont understand what the bottom pad is doing for heat dissipation 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/12 13:31:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mallorian 2022/04/12 13:38:21
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I just wasnt sure what the bottom pads real job was, definitely not my most intuitive moments here but I still dont understand what the bottom pad is doing 




Your trying to dissipate the Heat ... very passive cooling as those drives do not need to be "cold" & they should Not be over cooled
 
Looks like you figured-out the "stepped screw" capture feature
 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/12 13:37:43 (permalink)
the top heat sink is traditional and make sense all day to me, the bottom one covering the chip below and dissipating into the solid motherboard is the one I struggle with
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/12 13:49:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mallorian 2022/04/12 14:22:04
can't say 100% but if i have to guess the bottom pad is less for heat transfer and more for a "shim" to reduce stress on the drives in the event that you might run the board on a bench where excessive weight on this area of the board is possible (that m2 armor plate sits right below where you'd mount a liquid nitrogen container for a GPU)
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/13 11:35:11 (permalink)
Pad on bottom serves 2 purposes.
1: to have a stable base for the drive when the top heatsink is installed, else it would cause bending to the drive as there would be no support from the bottom
2: high capacity drives have flash on both sides. Granted the temp of the flash isn't actually of any concern, it's the the controller that needs to be kept cool. Also, it will allow heat from the controller to be dissipated from underneath as well (Mobo can absorb a lot of heat, given the amount of copper layers).
Bonus: some drives may have the controller on the bottom.

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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/04/13 19:00:40 (permalink)
Good job.....!!
Now we will move on to installing a WB on a GPU ;)
 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/05/09 11:15:33 (permalink)
"Orange circle 2 **** My problem mostly stemmed from not realizing the included screws separated into a riser and a screw and was attempting to use as a screw only ****" I still never figured out this part...
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/05/09 12:06:04 (permalink)
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"Orange circle 2 **** My problem mostly stemmed from not realizing the included screws separated into a riser and a screw and was attempting to use as a screw only ****" I still never figured out this part...




there should be m2 screws in the accessory kit box to hold down the m2 disks. use one of the supplied screws in there for that
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/05/09 12:07:45 (permalink)
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"Orange circle 2 **** My problem mostly stemmed from not realizing the included screws separated into a riser and a screw and was attempting to use as a screw only ****" I still never figured out this part...




there should be m2 screws in the accessory kit box to hold down the m2 disks. use one of the supplied screws in there for that


correct there were 3 of them I believe in the clear bag. However with the SSD inserted in the screw wouldn't grab. If i take out the SSD then it screws in perfectly fine.
 

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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/05/09 12:10:58 (permalink)
it's a standoff and retaining screw. so the top part disconnects from the standoff in your photo, and then you screw that standoff piece in to board, lay m2 on top and use the screw part to hold it together 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/05/09 12:14:59 (permalink)
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it's a standoff and retaining screw. so the top part disconnects from the standoff in your photo, and then you screw that standoff piece in to board, lay m2 on top and use the screw part to hold it together 


I had an inclination that was the case, but how did you gets separate the top part? I tried screwing it into the board and then trying to pry the top off but no luck? I also tried prying it off with the screw in my hand(s) but as you can tell because its so little its hard to get any grip.
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/05/09 14:48:23 (permalink)
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it's a standoff and retaining screw. so the top part disconnects from the standoff in your photo, and then you screw that standoff piece in to board, lay m2 on top and use the screw part to hold it together 


I had an inclination that was the case, but how did you gets separate the top part? I tried screwing it into the board and then trying to pry the top off but no luck? I also tried prying it off with the screw in my hand(s) but as you can tell because its so little its hard to get any grip.


For mine, I just held the threads lightly with pliers (with a paper towel protecting the threads) and unscrewed the screw with a screwdriver.  I didn't want to install the standoff and inadvertently overtighten the screw I was trying to remove.

 
 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2022/09/06 12:56:52 (permalink)
Those M.2 standoff/screws for mounting the SSD's really needed some better instructions from EVGA. They don't match what the manual describes that they come pre-installed ON the mobo, which they don't, and you cannot get the screw out of the standoff with taking a pair of needle nose pliers, grab the serrated edge of the stand off, and unscrew the small screw.  Took me about as long to figure these suckers out as it did to remove all the damn plastic covering everything on the board.
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2023/04/15 23:08:33 (permalink)
YA shame on EVGA for not explaining these screws better. 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2023/04/16 11:13:33 (permalink)
I was doing the same...looking for standoffs not screws lol

 
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2023/04/17 21:24:51 (permalink)
<p>YA shame on EVGA for not explaining these screws better.&nbsp;</p>
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Re: Installing NVME Z690 Kingpin Dark 2023/04/20 02:26:59 (permalink)
I just wasnt sure what the bottom pads real job was, definitely not my most intuitive moments here but I still dont understand what the bottom pad is doing for heat dissipation  
 


post edited by suzyytom - 2023/04/22 03:28:24
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