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I’m new to the world of PC building and gaming. I wanted to build one myself but this seems like the only way I can guarantee a GPU. Here’s the prebuilt that I ordered in May. I combined tips from two local pc builders. I went with the cheapest RAM option to keep costs down and I plan on switching them out for 32gb 3600mhz CL16 sticks. Also, I plan on adding an additional HDD. Any suggestions for potential improvements are welcome. Here are the specs. Case Phanteks Eclipse P500A DRGB High Air-Flow ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case + 3X 140mm SK140 ARGB Fans CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8GHz
Motherboard ASUS TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (Wi-Fi) ATX w/ RGB, Realtek LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 8 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe GPU GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6 (Ampere) [VR Ready (I have no idea which brand since I didn’t get to choose) Cooler EVGA CLC 280mm RGB CPU Water Cooler System w/ Copper Cold Plate (2 x Standard 140MM Fans) HDD 250GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD Ram 8GB (8GBx1) DDR4/3000MHz Memory PSU 750 Watts - Corsair RM Series RM750 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply OS Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition) Thermal Paste
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:00:40
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Your RAM is lacking for sure.
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MIGeekScene
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:02:58
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Chaos_21 Your RAM is lacking for sure.
Oh, I know. I plan on switching them out for 32gb 3600mhz CL16 sticks.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:07:36
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You can easily upgrade your RAM. For this kind of machine, I would look for 16-32GB 3400mhz + RAM also, depends on your budget. Also, I see you have only 250GB SSD. Try to get another one M.2 or SATA SSD if it's too pricy for you you can look up for 7200rpm HHD. And you always can improve your cooling :)
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:32:53
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Harord You can easily upgrade your RAM. For this kind of machine, I would look for 16-32GB 3400mhz + RAM also, depends on your budget. Also, I see you have only 250GB SSD. Try to get another one M.2 or SATA SSD if it's too pricy for you you can look up for 7200rpm HHD. And you always can improve your cooling :)
Thank you for the suggestions. What would you suggest to improve the cooling?
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:41:07
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That's really not a bad setup at all (after you swap your RAM and get a bigger SSD as you said). I had an EVGA CLC280 (non-RGB) for about 5 years and it worked great. I had it on an overclocked 5820k OC'd to 4.2GHz (3.33GHz stock) all-core and for the last 18 months of that computer running, it was doing [link=mailto:F@H]F@H[/link] 24/7. I kept only about a 60% load on the CPU for that as I wanted to keep the temps down a little for 24/7 running, but with that, it kept it at 58-62°C depending on the room-temp. There's nothing wrong with the cooler now, but I upgraded my computer, needed something bigger and after 5 years, I didn't think it would be a good idea to re-sell that cooler used. I usually aim for replacement after 5 years with an AIO. The only thing you can do to add to the cooler's capability (which I did after a couple years) is to make it push/pull by adding two more 140mm fans to the other side. You'll just want to make sure the Motherboard is running all 4 fans about the same speed (which is easy to do).
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:50:18
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Frankly I'm unhappy with the RAM and the PSU in that.... I would upgrade the PSU if possible ...probably to an eVGA 1000W ....
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 10:55:04
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transdogmifier Frankly I'm unhappy with the RAM and the PSU in that.... I would upgrade the PSU if possible ...probably to an eVGA 1000W ....
They already said they were updating the RAM. As for the PSU, I know the RMx series is quite good. Is the RM series not as good? I think the 750W is probably plenty for a 3070. If he had a 3090 I'd agree with you
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 11:03:48
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Nike_7688 That's really not a bad setup at all (after you swap your RAM and get a bigger SSD as you said). I had an EVGA CLC280 (non-RGB) for about 5 years and it worked great. I had it on an overclocked 5820k OC'd to 4.2GHz (3.33GHz stock) all-core and for the last 18 months of that computer running, it was doing 24/7. I kept only about a 60% load on the CPU for that as I wanted to keep the temps down a little for 24/7 running, but with that, it kept it at 58-62°C depending on the room-temp. There's nothing wrong with the cooler now, but I upgraded my computer, needed something bigger and after 5 years, I didn't think it would be a good idea to re-sell that cooler used. I usually aim for replacement after 5 years with an AIO. The only thing you can do to add to the cooler's capability (which I did after a couple years) is to make it push/pull by adding two more 140mm fans to the other side. You'll just want to make sure the Motherboard is running all 4 fans about the same speed (which is easy to do).
Any recommendations on particular fan brands?
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 11:06:22
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transdogmifier Frankly I'm unhappy with the RAM and the PSU in that.... I would upgrade the PSU if possible ...probably to an eVGA 1000W ....
They already said they were updating the RAM. As for the PSU, I know the RMx series is quite good. Is the RM series not as good? I think the 750W is probably plenty for a 3070. If he had a 3090 I'd agree with you
I don't plan on getting a 3090. I think it would be a bit overkill for some gaming and video editing work. Plus, it would've added an additional $1660 to the cost of the build.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 11:45:54
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Upgrade your ram CL 14 at 3800 recommended ryzen likes speed!! Try gskill
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 11:47:24
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I am a big fan (no pun intended) of Be Quiet! fans, but I don't really go in for RGB on everything. For me, they have a really good balance of performance while being very quiet. If you are into RGB, the ML120 fans are pretty good and EKWB's Vardar fans are really good.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 13:15:26
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You should go for a 512/500 GB for your M.2 drive for the OS & games 256GB is small ..... even if you add a drive for other "library" files the price should be small for the twice the capacity
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 13:59:15
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Nike_7688 I am a big fan (no pun intended) of Be Quiet! fans, but I don't really go in for RGB on everything. For me, they have a really good balance of performance while being very quiet. If you are into RGB, the ML120 fans are pretty good and EKWB's Vardar fans are really good.
Thank you. I will look into these once it arrives in July.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 14:00:49
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Cool GTX You should go for a 512/500 GB for your M.2 drive for the OS & games 256GB is small ..... even if you add a drive for other "library" files the price should be small for the twice the capacity
It was suggested to me to have just the OS on the M.2 drive and put everything else on other drives. Any suggestion on any particular drives I should get?
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 14:03:40
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Isato01 Upgrade your ram CL 14 at 3800 recommended ryzen likes speed!! Try gskill
The prices on that particular speed of ram for 32gb is a bit on the high side for me. I'll be doing video editing as well.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 15:40:18
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MIGeekScene
Harord You can easily upgrade your RAM. For this kind of machine, I would look for 16-32GB 3400mhz + RAM also, depends on your budget. Also, I see you have only 250GB SSD. Try to get another one M.2 or SATA SSD if it's too pricy for you you can look up for 7200rpm HHD. And you always can improve your cooling :)
Thank you for the suggestions. What would you suggest to improve the cooling?
More fans, better air cooler like Noctua ones, or liquid cooler for CPU. Liquid cool GPU and oc it.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/04 16:44:14
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Harord
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Harord You can easily upgrade your RAM. For this kind of machine, I would look for 16-32GB 3400mhz + RAM also, depends on your budget. Also, I see you have only 250GB SSD. Try to get another one M.2 or SATA SSD if it's too pricy for you you can look up for 7200rpm HHD. And you always can improve your cooling :)
Thank you for the suggestions. What would you suggest to improve the cooling?
More fans, better air cooler like Noctua ones, or liquid cooler for CPU. Liquid cool GPU and oc it.
Thank you
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/05 12:57:02
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Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I appreciate the info.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/06 01:41:26
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Harord
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Harord You can easily upgrade your RAM. For this kind of machine, I would look for 16-32GB 3400mhz + RAM also, depends on your budget. Also, I see you have only 250GB SSD. Try to get another one M.2 or SATA SSD if it's too pricy for you you can look up for 7200rpm HHD. And you always can improve your cooling :)
Thank you for the suggestions. What would you suggest to improve the cooling?
More fans, better air cooler like Noctua ones, or liquid cooler for CPU. Liquid cool GPU and oc it.
Arctic P line is not bad either, not as good as Noctua, but pretty close and these are not in the same price point so hard to compare one to one. I went with 2xP14 + 3xP12 for O11 Dynamic mini. All black build with minimal RGB. There is few good videos on Youtube about optimum number of fans needed, but as most things if depends on cases and components used. Sometimes even less is better but trial & error is what makes it fun, so enjoy building it. P.S. I wouldn't worry about the PSU either. Will be running a 3070ti (I hope) on a 650W SFX-L PSU and already confirmed by many that is should fine.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/06 01:43:53
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Harord You can easily upgrade your RAM. For this kind of machine, I would look for 16-32GB 3400mhz + RAM also, depends on your budget. Also, I see you have only 250GB SSD. Try to get another one M.2 or SATA SSD if it's too pricy for you you can look up for 7200rpm HHD. And you always can improve your cooling :)
Thank you for the suggestions. What would you suggest to improve the cooling?
More fans, better air cooler like Noctua ones, or liquid cooler for CPU. Liquid cool GPU and oc it.
Arctic P line is not bad either, not as good as Noctua, but pretty close and these are not in the same price point so hard to compare one to one. I went with 2xP14 + 3xP12 for O11 Dynamic mini. All black build with minimal RGB. There is few good videos on Youtube about optimum number of fans needed, but as most things if depends on cases and components used. Sometimes even less is better but trial & error is what makes it fun, so enjoy building it. P.S. I wouldn't worry about the PSU either. Will be running a 3070ti (I hope) on a 650W SFX-L PSU and already confirmed by many that is should fine.
Thank you for the tips. Good luck on getting the 3070ti.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/07 05:56:57
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Add another stick of ram. For a prebuilt, at least your PSU is sufficient. Usually not the case
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/07 20:25:08
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Don't forget to enable XMP when you upgrade the memory.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/07 23:55:13
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Theoretically you could OC the ram manually as well after getting the new sticks, but it would require a lot of overnight stress testing and it would be quite tedious.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/08 00:20:40
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Honestly since you said you're already upgrading your RAM and adding another HD, your rig looks like it's gonna be really good! Only thing I'd consider is adding an exhaust fan at the back of your machine, since the 3 that are included are front intakes. The P500A's a great case though, so it's not absolutely necessary, but if you're gonna go RGB to begin with, it doesn't hurt having additional internal RGB
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/08 07:04:18
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kbertling353 Add another stick of ram. For a prebuilt, at least your PSU is sufficient. Usually not the case
I plan on switching them out for 32gb 3600mhz CL16 sticks.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/08 07:06:03
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R00thead Don't forget to enable XMP when you upgrade the memory.
Forgive the newbie question but how do I go about doing this? This is a new world to me. Are there any materials I should be reading to get a better understanding?
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/08 07:07:16
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Tolmer Theoretically you could OC the ram manually as well after getting the new sticks, but it would require a lot of overnight stress testing and it would be quite tedious.
I would have no clue how to do that in the first place. I'm so new to this.
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/08 07:08:42
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RAM would be the easy and obvious one. A nice big NVMe SSD too!
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Re: I ordered a prebuilt and I'm looking for potential improvement suggestions.
2021/06/08 07:08:43
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kevinthemighty Honestly since you said you're already upgrading your RAM and adding another HD, your rig looks like it's gonna be really good! Only thing I'd consider is adding an exhaust fan at the back of your machine, since the 3 that are included are front intakes. The P500A's a great case though, so it's not absolutely necessary, but if you're gonna go RGB to begin with, it doesn't hurt having additional internal RGB
That's good advice. Thank you. I want this thing to remain as cool as possible.
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