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How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V?

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2017/08/22 18:55:34 (permalink)
My latest mining rig consists of a MSI Z270A PRO with a Celeron G3950 CPU and a couple of 8GB sticks.  It has 6 EVGA 1080Ti cards (11G-P4-6393-KR) with the needed risers, etc.
 
I have power on the 1080Ti's set to 65% and the whole rig is pulling between 1090 and 1130W depending on what is being mined.
 
It has been rock solid for over a week, but I'm just wondering if I'm going to have issues down the road pushing it this hard?  I know tests have been done showing that it will put out about 1,333W, so if that is the true max capacity, then 1,100W is about 82% load, which is pretty close to the general rule of thumb not to load a PSU more than 80%. 

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    pclausen
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/22 19:07:12 (permalink)
    Here is the rig itself.
     
    Also, I have a dedicated 100A sub-panel in my "server room" and all my boxes run on 240V (typically closer to 250V).
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/22 19:14:26 (permalink)
    Nobody is going to be able to answer this question.
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/22 19:18:13 (permalink)
    Let me ask another way.  Have there been any durability tests done on EVGA power supplies being run at close to their rated capacity for extended periods of time?  If so, what were the findings?  I did some Google searches before posting here, but I could not find any "stories" about EVGA PSUs blowing up from mining, so I guess they are pretty tough and running at close to rated capacity does not seem to be an issue.
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/22 19:33:38 (permalink)
    pclausen
    Have there been any durability tests done on EVGA power supplies being run at close to their rated capacity for extended periods of time?

    Not that I know of, but I didn't go looking on google for the answer. Looks like you didn't find anything on google, so I'll most likely get the same results.
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/23 08:52:16 (permalink)
    Moving to cryptocurrency section
     
    Keeping the PSU cool is the solution to long life
     
    ---> based on my industrial experience 80% loads are OK for years of 24/7 loads, if you have good airflow through the PSU
     
    Your loads are higher, however you are also in an A/C environment most likely (?)

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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/23 09:10:47 (permalink)
    mostly all ratings are based off intermittent loads and nothing electrical is meant to be ran over 80% load for 24/7 use.


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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/23 09:29:00 (permalink)
    Roger that.  So I should try to keep the power draw at the wall at or below 960W (1200 x .8), or is the 1,200W rating on the DC side, meaning I could go a little higher given the 92% efficiency?
     
    Guess a Supernova 1600 would be a better fit for this rig.  I'm planning to build 4 more just like it, so I want to make sure I get it right from the get go.
     
    And yes, this is in an A/C environment.  Upgrading to a dedicated 2 ton 22 Seer mini split this week for my 'server room'. 
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/23 11:46:43 (permalink)
    i have always looked at the Amps from the wall and not the load.


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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/23 18:10:21 (permalink)
    I throttled power back to 62%.  Sol's are still around 630 per card, so not too bad.  Power at the wall is now around 1050W, so a little better than before.
     
    As long as it will run for the next 10 years until the warranty runs out, I'll be happy.  I'm sure Nvidia will come out with some more efficient cards somewhere along that timeline.  :)
     
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/23 20:02:03 (permalink)
    rofl, at this rate with AMD going back to 300W power monsters nvidia may do the same. granted those 300W cards are basically as powerful as nvidia's 180W TDP 1080..... soooo, then again maybe not.


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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/24 05:40:16 (permalink)
    That's a wonderful setup! I hope your ROI is going well! Did you build that using some 8020 bar stock?
     
    I think these folks are correct that running that power supply in the 80 to 90 percent range of the psu's capacity is the way to go. You certainly are getting it's max efficiency that way. As of now, it seems the psu is pulling hot internal air through itself and out of the case. You could isolate it's airflow by turning it upside down and cutting some holes in the top...now bottom of that case?


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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/24 17:43:27 (permalink)
    I picked up a "drop in cage" kit from a guy over on bitcointalk, so that made it all very easy.  Yep, I believe that is 8020 bar stock.
     
    So I picked a SuperNova 1600 P2 so that I can crank those 6 1080Ti's up to 75% ish power hopefully get up around 700 Sol/s per card or 4,200 Sol/s for the whole rig.
     
    I'm also going to cut a hole in the side of the case and flip the PSU so that it pulls in cool air from the outside instead of hot air that has been blown across the GPUs.
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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/24 19:02:56 (permalink)
    you could also simply reverse the air flow so in comes in on the board side and out the GPU side if you do not feel like cutting the case and flipping the PSU.
     
    EDIT: no, scratch that idea PSU will simply loop air that way, not a good idea.


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    Re: How long will a SUPERNOVA 1200 P2 last mining 24/7 with a 1,100W load @ 247V? 2017/08/26 02:15:52 (permalink)
    Quite a few folks have run the EVGA G2 1300 at a high load percentage for extended runtimes on ASIC_based mining gear - but the load those ASIC machines present to the power supply tends to be less variable and "spiky" than GPUs present.
     
     I'd be inclined to not push even a GOOD power supply like the P2 1200 much past about 1000 watts in 24/7 service in a GPU rig.
     
     Your plan to flip the PS and if you make the hole at least the size of the fan and make sure you line it up well should help on longevity by keeping the PS cooler.
     
     I'm not 100% certain, but I suspect that there are already 300 watt current-gen NVidia cards - AIO versions of the 1080ti and possibly the TitanX/TitanXP.
     
     I've not OWNED one but I'd be somewhat shocked if NOBODY had built a 3'd party card with a higher TDP than the NVidia "standard" 250 watt limit (I WAS shocked that the TDP on my Aorus is 250 watts).
     MSI for example has at least one model of 1070 with a TDP in the 220 watt ballpark, even though NVidia calls for 151 watts on those....
     

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