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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/18 19:50:25 (permalink)
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/18 22:57:47 (permalink)
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 15:14:15 (permalink)
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:00:05 (permalink)
Sajin,
 
Need your help bro.
 
Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.
 
Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.
 
My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!
 
What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.
 
Ugh.. HELP!

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:05:54 (permalink)
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Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:08:33 (permalink)
Sajin I thought that there should be no overclock on the Precision settings? Or am I mixing it up with another bios post from OCN..so many of these darn things, and hard to keep track of..lol
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:10:52 (permalink)
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Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 

 
When you say "reduce the clocks on that one card", how exactly does that work? In PrecisionX, the cards are "Synced" so I guess I would turn that off (?). Also, I didn't touch precision and the cards automatically boosted to 1202Mhz. How do I change that if I didn't OC with PrecisionX in the first place?

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:12:24 (permalink)
I think he meant, put one card in at a time
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:19:57 (permalink)
Wait.. should the Power value be adjusted in PrecisionX for this "OC" to work? It was at 100% as I didn't touch it when I ran Heaven 4.0.
 
Hmm.. what is a safe Power % to use for the 1202Mhz? Since stock is 106%, would 110% be good? 115%?

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:23:38 (permalink)
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Sajin I thought that there should be no overclock on the Precision settings? Or am I mixing it up with another bios post from OCN..so many of these darn things, and hard to keep track of..lol 
 
When running a single titan (non-SLI) the card boost to 1202MHz without having to modify the clocks in precision, when running 2 or more cards in SLI the cards will need to be adjusted via precision. (This is how it works for me anyways.) 
 
Baasha

Sajin

Baasha

Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 


When you say "reduce the clocks on that one card", how exactly does that work? In PrecisionX, the cards are "Synced" so I guess I would turn that off (?). Also, I didn't touch precision and the cards automatically boosted to 1202Mhz. How do I change that if I didn't OC with PrecisionX in the first place?

Yes, disable sync then lower the suspected cards by lowering the GPU Clock Offsets on each card via precision. (GPU Clock Offset is limited to -105 in precision.)
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:24:19 (permalink)
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Wait.. should the Power value be adjusted in PrecisionX for this "OC" to work? It was at 100% as I didn't touch it when I ran Heaven 4.0.

Hmm.. what is a safe Power % to use for the 1202Mhz? Since stock is 106%, would 110% be good? 115%?

good question, for the OP. Hopefully, he will answer soon.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 19:24:39 (permalink)
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Wait.. should the Power value be adjusted in PrecisionX for this "OC" to work? It was at 100% as I didn't touch it when I ran Heaven 4.0.

Hmm.. what is a safe Power % to use for the 1202Mhz? Since stock is 106%, would 110% be good? 115%?

Try 115%. (Anything past 106% is considered a no no by NVIDIA.)
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/19 22:36:43 (permalink)
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Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 

 
RMA the card that can't do 1202mhz? are you serious? dont give people wrong ideas all the cards are more then capable to run way above the specs... anything above 1100 is good overclock for Titan specially in SLi and "Specially 4-way SLi"

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 00:07:51 (permalink)
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Baasha

Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 


RMA the card that can't do 1202mhz? are you serious? dont give people wrong ideas all the cards are more then capable to run way above the specs... anything above 1100 is good overclock for Titan specially in SLi and "Specially 4-way SLi"

You're acting like this is new news to you. If you want to be in the top % of people with the best of the best gpu's this is how you go about getting into that club. You could also buy some gpu's test them then sell them if they aren't good enough. 
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 00:13:23 (permalink)
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Sajin

Baasha

Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 


RMA the card that can't do 1202mhz? are you serious? dont give people wrong ideas all the cards are more then capable to run way above the specs... anything above 1100 is good overclock for Titan specially in SLi and "Specially 4-way SLi"

You're acting like this is new news to you. If you want to be in the top % of people with the best of the best gpu's this is how you go about getting into that club. You could also buy some gpu's test them then sell them if they aren't good enough. 

 
This is not new news to me, but we are not on OCN this is regular EVGA Forum, buying then binning them its ok for small loss, but RMA perfectly working card does not sound right   There is lots of new users that might think that they have defective card since they cant reach 1202mhz which is far from true...

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 05:23:40 (permalink)
The modded bios all work similar, all based of same working bios.
 
sajins bios 1 has volt set  1.21, already maxed
sajins bios 3 has volt set to 1.187.
 
When you load bios 1, you will be at 1.21 volts all the time.  Precision lets you change volts up only, not down, so you will always be at 1.2-1.21v, ie max.  Without precision X, you will be at 1202 core speed all time, and normal mem speed.  You can use precision X, hit reset under voltage tweaks, and default on main, and then adjust mhz/mem speed only.
 
the bios I use is similar to sajins 3 which has volts 1.187 for P0 and P2 volts, which gives most flexibility, if not wanting to run max volts all time.  Not using precision X, you will be at 1.21v, and 1202 max, because bios set volts are ignored, until using precision X.  Then using precision X, you hit reset  under voltage, then apply.  Then hit default main button just make sure mhz comes down.  Then you will be at 1.187v, and probably 1000-1050mhz, whatever your default boost speed is.  Then use precision X to adjust volts, mhz, mem, and as long as precision tune runs, you will stay there.  mine is similar to bios 3, as more options.  note, using precision x, max volts typically 1.2 rather than 1.21.
 
One other note, if do not hit reset/default before using precision X on either bios, it will assume beginning speed of 1202, and if you add 200mhz, you will be at 1400mhz and crash.  When you use precision X and reset volts (dont ask why you have to reset volts for mhz, ask nvidia who was high while writing this bios), and hit default mhz, just to makes sure, then you will be adding 200mhz to base, of between 1000 and 1050 typically.  For example I ran benchmark which crashed precision drivers, and did not realize, so I hit 200mhz again, thinking 1250, I saw 1400 right before computer restarted.
 
power slider just used to avoid throttling, but modded bios already does such and already near hard max, so power slider on modded bios I just ignore.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 05:57:11 (permalink)
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Sajin

gamingarena

Sajin

Baasha

Sajin,

Need your help bro.

Flashed all 4 Titan SCs to BIOS1.rom (1.212V). Everything is great as far as the Flash itself is concerned.

Ran Heaven 4.0 and the benchmark crashed in about 10 seconds. I saw that all cards were at 1202Mhz which is exactly what I wanted.

My thoughts are that one (or more) cards is not stable @ 1202Mhz @ 1.212V!

What do I do now? With the GTX-680 Classified in 4-Way SLI, all four cards held 1306Mhz @ 1.212V without a sweat.

Ugh.. HELP!

Test each card separately until you find out which one or one's aren't stable @ 1202 and reduce the clocks on that one card or card's a bit using precision. If you need 1202 on all four get ready to RMA to try your luck again with the silicon lottery. 


RMA the card that can't do 1202mhz? are you serious? dont give people wrong ideas all the cards are more then capable to run way above the specs... anything above 1100 is good overclock for Titan specially in SLi and "Specially 4-way SLi"

You're acting like this is new news to you. If you want to be in the top % of people with the best of the best gpu's this is how you go about getting into that club. You could also buy some gpu's test them then sell them if they aren't good enough. 


This is not new news to me, but we are not on OCN this is regular EVGA Forum, buying then binning them its ok for small loss, but RMA perfectly working card does not sound right   There is lots of new users that might think that they have defective card since they cant reach 1202mhz which is far from true...

 
Sajin's comments were in the context of OP's thread title and, sajin is also the OP of this thread. Anyone who reads this thread, understands the context, which you seem to have failed to grasp  
No advice is being given to thoughtless card buyers who feel "privileged" enough to have these cards, don't care about throttling and want to be the cheerleaders..knock yourself out on another thread...lol 
I for one am glad that Sajin posted this here, as most of us are running EVGA cards. It is a forum for the users, not a marketing cheerleading forum. 
post edited by armando666 - 2013/03/20 06:00:33
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 08:39:36 (permalink)
 
Definitely a   
 
Very well done Sir

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 09:24:03 (permalink)
I believe that Jeremy's advice has been appropriate, given the nature of his thread.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 10:50:36 (permalink)
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Definitely a   

Very well done Sir

Thanks.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 13:21:36 (permalink)
Well, after some preliminary testing, all 4 Titan SCs are rock solidly stable at 1176Mhz/+200 Mem @ 1.212V.
 
I have yet to test each card individually @ 1202Mhz. Although, I doubt I would see any perceptible gains with such a measly increase in core clock speed (+26Mhz). Anyway, I am really happy with the cards right now. Time to have some fun and blast some fools on BF3!
 
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 13:24:50 (permalink)
How did you get it to 1176mhz? I thought the modded bios auto controlled the boost to 1202 and volt to max?
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 13:47:59 (permalink)
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How did you get it to 1176mhz? I thought the modded bios auto controlled the boost to 1202 and volt to max?

Install precision x and set the gpu clock offset to -30 for each GPU. 
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 14:28:54 (permalink)
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How did you get it to 1176mhz? I thought the modded bios auto controlled the boost to 1202 and volt to max?

Install precision x and set the gpu clock offset to -30 for each GPU. 

Got it. Thanks.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/20 21:35:02 (permalink)
I want quad titans!!! o_o; Whats next GTX Zeus? lol
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/21 00:47:26 (permalink)
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How did you get it to 1176mhz? I thought the modded bios auto controlled the boost to 1202 and volt to max?

 
Just set the GPU Clock Offset to -20. When I did -30, it went to 1163Mhz. The next bin is 1176Mhz. That is actually a pretty good OC if you think about it; it's 300Mhz above the "stock" clocks. There is no throttle as well! Still want to try to hit 1202Mhz on a few of the cards.
 

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/22 06:34:25 (permalink)
Well looks like anyone who gives a hoot about performance is flashing their bios, and that's pretty much everyone.lol.
Hello, is anyone home Nvidia? Is Nvidia listening? And, Can Nvidia stop treating the enthusiasts as children, or console players, and not be so condescending as to "pretend" to fix the next release of drivers by redefining "throttling"?
No Nvidia, window dressing won't work, there would need to be substantive changes to prevent "real throttling". If not, then the enthusiast community will see right through the sham, bios flashing will continue, and yes, there will be an unprecedented levels of RMAs.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/22 10:26:55 (permalink)
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Well looks like anyone who gives a hoot about performance is flashing their bios, and that's pretty much everyone.lol.
Hello, is anyone home Nvidia? Is Nvidia listening? And, Can Nvidia stop treating the enthusiasts as children, or console players, and not be so condescending as to "pretend" to fix the next release of drivers by redefining "throttling"?
No Nvidia, window dressing won't work, there would need to be substantive changes to prevent "real throttling". If not, then the enthusiast community will see right through the sham, bios flashing will continue, and yes, there will be an unprecedented levels of RMAs.

Actually I messed around with a few of the BIOS files posted here, then modified my own. Frankly I don't like the funky way the GPU acts modifying the voltage table. Its not a fix, it's a lazy hack. I simply modified the power table and I have stable boost with variable voltage from the stock 1050mhz boost at 1.15v to 1187mhz @ 1.2v by simply upping the core offset from 0. Which is, compared to previous generations, a very good OC range.  If folks are RMAing their GPU's because they bricked their cards flashing, that is all on them.

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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/22 10:54:32 (permalink)
And, that is somewhat my point. People will flashback to stock and RMA the card, if the "lazy hack" does not get them what they desire. There remains an underlying issue with throttling which requires a legit fix by Nvidia and not merely a window dressing to redefine throttling. If people brick it, and try to RMA and are refused, it is still a lose-lose for
Nvidia from a PR perspective. No doubt that help lines of Nvidia's partners will be deluged with unhappy customers, and Nvidia forums will continue to be abuzz with negative publicity.
What would I do, if I were Nvidia, and wanted to drive a definitive nail into AMD's proverbial coffin? I will give the fix that people are demanding, and, in so doing, I will notch multiple wins on my belt; PR win- check, Deepening customer loyalty for repeat buys- check, further eroding AMD's market share of the enthusiast card niche - check, Gain positive momentum towards furture products introductions- Check, finally and most importantly; Stock Price Appreciation - Check
But, that 's what I would do, and what do I know..lol.
If you or someone has a better and improved version of the modded bios, based on personal testing, please post it for others benefit. A video tutorial would help immensely, but not sure who would be the first brave soul to do it..lol..whomever does, gets multiple reps..lol
I will experiment with some of these bios this weekend and will see how it goes.
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Re:HOW TO: Properly Flash Your GTX TITAN (GUIDE) 2013/03/22 12:16:16 (permalink)
Sajin,
 
Last night, I tried playing Tomb Raider and the performance was phenomenal with SMAA - was hitting 70 FPS @ 5160x2560 with everything maxed out and was using close to 4GB of VRAM!
 
The only thing was that my top card is usually the hottest card and it went to around 85C after a while. The BIOS1.rom that I used has a power target of 150%. I used a MAX of 110% to get my perfectly stable OC of 1176Mhz across all 4 Titan SCs.
 
The issue with that, of course, is a 110% power target automatically sets a temp target of 83C which is quite low.
 
My first question is, is there a way to de-link the power target and temp target so that I can set the temp "max" to say, 90C? This is because once the card hit 83C, it throttled! The other three Titans were below 80C and so they didn't throttle even once. When the temps are below 83C, there is NO throttling which is great. Yet, once that temp limit is reached, it does throttle.
 
The second question is, is there a way to get the same BIOS (100% fan, 1202Mhz boost, 1.212V) with a lower max power target? Say 115% or even 120%? This way, it would allow the temp target to be around 95C (106% = 95C w/ stock BIOS).
 
Please help!

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