talon951
It'll be interesting to see how the 3090ti does if it actually gets released. If the 450w reference PL rumor is correct, what will the PL of the FTW3 be? 500? 550?

Also wondering how feasible air cooling will be for the 40 series if the PL goes up again. Really are approaching the need for water cooling for the high end cards.

A couple more generations with power requirements increasing like this and we're all going to need to get 30A or 50A ran to our computer rooms and run 2000W+ PSUs

Beasthunt
Considering I've been in a que system for over a year I'd say there is a huge problem.

Yeah, let's go join the queue over at ASUS or MSI. Maybe even Gigabyte. Wait........ they don't have one? 

Just ordered a 3070Ti FTW for a fair price and I hope that it lasts longer than I can read here.
 
I wanted to Step-Up to a 3080 FTW3, but now I'm not so sure anymore. Do 3080 FTW's have more problems than 3070Ti? Do they run hotter and louder? 
And I mean... in the end we are using it for gaming, and that is a lifelong stress-test for any GPU. Happy that I chose a EVGA Card, because I've only heared good stuff about the community and service/support. :)

I am more bothered by the warranty than the hardware failures. I have an EVGA power supply with another 6 year warranty and I want to sell it but the one who will get it will not have a warranty at all.

In all the companies in the world the guarantee follows the object here the guarantee follows the original owner, big wrong.

nomoss

LLLEFTERISIn all the companies in the world the guarantee follows the object here the guarantee follows the original owner, big wrong.

Warranties that follow the product are quite rare.  Maybe it an EU thing but it's almost unheard of in the US.  

That is, if you buy a power supply that has a ten-year warranty and for some reason you want to sell after a month, you say I have a ten-year warranty, you who buy it do not have at all.

Maybe that's why used in America are so cheap because they lose their warranty.

Yes, in Europe I sell you my TV, I give you the proof of purchase, you have a normal all rest of the guarantee. I have gotten a lot of used things and I never had a problem because the receipt was not in my name.

I can agree that these cards run a little too hot. I've been having a problem lately that i cant keep my side panel on my PC because the EVGA 3070ti i have is just generating too much heat (my case is a full size with multiple fans btw) that blows into the case cause me to have immediate blue screen errors when im playing games. I thought maybe its my pc or something else, but after research and all,  its just the card being hot, and i dont think i should have to replace like thermal paste or anything in it yet.

Fennario

LLLEFTERIS
I am more bothered by the warranty than the hardware failures. I have an EVGA power supply with another 6 year warranty and I want to sell it but the one who will get it will not have a warranty at all.

In all the companies in the world the guarantee follows the object here the guarantee follows the original owner, big wrong.

Spoiler

Subject to proof of purchase, EVGA has transferable warranty for secondary owners.
 
________________
 
Subject to the terms and conditions of this Limited Warranty, the Transferable Limited Warranty is available to second-hand purchasers with a valid proof of purchase of the transaction between the current owner and the previous owner.* A second-hand purchaser is defined as someone who purchases an EVGA product from an unauthorized reseller. The limited warranty on any Product which was originally shipped from EVGA or an Authorized Reseller as a demo or prize is not transferable to second-hand purchasers and is not covered by the Transferable Limited Warranty.
Products shipped from EVGA as warranty replacements will be subject to this Transferable Limited Warranty, provided that the original Product was shipped from EVGA on or after July 1, 2011 and has a qualifying Transferable Limited Warranty suffix. Warranty replacements retain the limited warranty characteristics of the original Product, which will be used to determine the original purchase date and/or ship date.
The length of the Transferable Limited Warranty is determined by Product according to the suffix associated with each Product's identification number as set forth below and will be measured beginning from the Product's original date of shipment from an EVGA online store, EVGA's official eBay store, or EVGA's official Amazon Marketplace store:

• 3 Year Transferable Limited Warranty Product Suffixes: -A1, -A2, -A3, -A4, -AR, -AX, -CR, -CX, -DX, -FR, -FX, -SG, -SX, -KR, -K1, -K2, -K3, -K4, -K5, -KB, -KA, -KF, -KH, -KL, -KM
• 2 Year Transferable Limited Warranty Product Suffixes: -LA, -LE, -LR, -L1, -LX, -T1, -T2, -TR, -TX

Products described by the following suffixes are not covered by the Transferable Limited Warranty: -B1, -BR, -BX, -DR, -RX, -R2, -RB, -RL
*For more warranty information about original and second-hand purchases, please see our FAQ here.

close

 
when talking about power supply warranties, refer to the power supply specific section of the warranty pages for the best information: https://www.evga.com/warranty/power-supplies/
 
There is a lot more detail in the specific sections 

bilalkhan22
 Look guys I love evga as much as the next guy... Usually solid products, great CS..... But the amount of issues there seems to be with the 3000 series cards (80 and 90) seems a little high, no? Go to the Asus, MSI, gigabyte subs, and there are nowhere near as many issues posted whereas here it seems to be non-stop "3090 red lights" "fan issues" "RMA in progress" "3080 black screen" etc. Even I'm sitting here waiting for my xc3 3080 to go bad lol.Has evga said anything about the seemingly high failure rate and issues the cards are having

 
I think that EVGA and other manufacturers didn't have a lot fo time to finalize their designs for RTX 3000 series cards between the tiem Nvidia finalized info and the release date.  So some things were rushed and last minute changes were made.  Unfortunately that has affected EVGA more than other manufacturers this time around.
 
Some people say that the cards are problem free and its the end user.  However the problems are mostly similar issues experienced by a wide number of users using adequate hardware and repeatable in multiple PCs.
 
My own experience with the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 was multiple RMAs then EVGA offered a refund after they couldn't send me a card that would work in any of the three PCs I have here.  All three cards had the same exact problem.  When playing any DX11 game or running any DX11 based graphics benchmark, the screen would turn black and the fans on the cards would spin at what sounded like 100% speed.  In addition to that, the cards were drawing 85-96+ watts through the PCIEx16 slot on the 12v rail when the spec id 75 watts on all voltage rails.
 
The first 3090 Kingpin hybrid I received had a dead 120mm fan on the radiator.  I replaced the fan with another 120mm PWM fan from my EVGA RTX 2080 Super hybrid after support told me they don't stock spare 120mm fans.  Then the pump on the 3090 Kingpin Hybrid died within a few hours of use and the LCD display displayed an "Overheating" message.  I also had issues with the waterblocks on the 3090 Kingpin Hydro Copper and Hydro Copper kit leaking and one of them couldn't be fixed.  The problems was worse when I used chilled coolant.  The threaded area on the block was damaged during assembly at the factory and it couldn't be tightened enough to stop the leak.
 

A graphics card without proof why it was lost and the store has closed for everand to give new proof, the card is without a statement to EVGA.

I guess is out of warranty right?

On the EVGA site based on SN that it still has a 500+ day warranty.

I love EVGA, the only thing I think needs work, because it constantly has problems, is Precision X1. Many people had to RMA their gpus when they tried to flash their vbios because Precision X1 screwed up the process and bricked the cards. Even today, I tried to flash my card this month and got an error, after many many updates later, it still has problems.

Well I was on a 3070 Ultra for 272 day, no issues. Been on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra LHR now for over a month. Made sure I had the proper power supply for the 30 series as older designs to super cheap psu's that have not been upgraded for the spikes are known to kill the cards.  Believe that is where a lot of the issues stem from. See it all the time, older psu's over two years old, older psu quality models that sat on shelves to put into machines eating cards before they critically fail due to the spikes to just killing the cards in general as they did not get upgraded to handle the massive voltage spikes of boost clocks. Last week alone I saw that happen not just with EVGA but multiple brands including a very nice white ASUS 3080 TI model an old bequiet power pro 11. Including some older quality Seasonics, to even some older corsairs. If that tells you anything. Going to get a 30 series card? Be sure you have one of the latest quality psu's up for the task or it will probably come to bite you.

Tech changes, remember when one of the new motherboards came out and the old psu's didn't play nice with them and caused issues? Same thing stuff is always moving forward. Those saying during games 450w on an air cooler, you do know this one particular game due to bad coding bypassed all safety features of the card's firmware and software as it sent the cards into a state worse than benching/folding/mining/rendering, stuff is going to get hot and under that kind of load with all the safeties bypassed bad stuff will happen especially if you do not keep it colder. Its sort of why say Quadro's exist to miners who take these gaming cards always undervolt and underclock them, or you have enthusiast who go overboard to keep them cool be it for gaming or someone who works and plays on thier cards. Like me I never let any part of my card hit or go above 70c. That is the other issue, bad coding in games that sends cards into overdrive it was not just nvidia it was doing it to, it was also AMD's latest and greatest.

nomoss
I was referring to warranties on consumer electronics not gas stoves, trucks and roofs lol.  

Warranties are warranties.  They're all part of the same law.  Most devices today contain electronic components, there's nothing special about their warranty. 

nosomo

nomoss
I was referring to warranties on consumer electronics not gas stoves, trucks and roofs lol.  

Warranties are warranties.  They're all part of the same law.  Most devices today contain electronic components, there's nothing special about their warranty. 

Written warranties are written to exclude implied coverage.  There is a reason why a car warranty is 3 years, a roof warranty is 10, and a game console is 1 year.  And, again, it's not to protect the consumer.

donta1979
even EVGA had to do RMA exchanges with some of their older psu's that were apparently still on the market due to them lacking the upgrades for the spikes killing 30 series cards so I would not call it debunked.

That is not true. You are placing the cart in front of the horse.

ty_ger07

donta1979
Well I was on a 3070 Ultra for 272 day, no issues. Been on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra LHR now for over a month. Made sure I had the proper power supply for the 30 series as older designs to super cheap psu's that have not been upgraded for the spikes are known to kill the cards.  Believe that is where a lot of the issues stem from. See it all the time, older psu's over two years old, older psu quality models that sat on shelves to put into machines eating cards before they critically fail due to the spikes to just killing the cards in general as they did not get upgraded to handle the massive voltage spikes of boost clocks. Last week alone I saw that happen not just with EVGA but multiple brands including a very nice white ASUS 3080 TI model an old bequiet power pro 11. Including some older quality Seasonics, to even some older corsairs. If that tells you anything. Going to get a 30 series card? Be sure you have one of the latest quality psu's up for the task or it will probably come to bite you.

That line of thinking us pretty conclusively debunked. For any example with a PSU you think is suspect, is an example with a PSU you would approve of.

I think the real problem is that the card can pull power spikes. NVIDIA's power monitoring is average-based, which allows big short-term spikes which exceed the VRM"s capability. And, to add insult to injury, the VRM hardware-based protection is set too high to protect the VRM; probably because it was kicking in too often.

i gotta agree here....psu's are most likely not the problem unless youre using a very low end, beat up ,old unit, lower wattage etc... The CM im using while large was new when i put it in, i took out the CM V-1000 cause i used it the whole time with my Sandy rig, but it had been sitting in its box since they were released, like 8 or 9 years at least. I had the killawatt hooked up and only saw roughly 850 watts pulled from the wall max with my current setup, but i do run the gpu cool, no higher than 72c, and drastically change my settings depending on the game/workload. I havent had any hiccups yet, although i am going to be taking this card apart for the Hybrid kit and have a bunch of new EK/Noctua 3000 rpm fans to put in etc... so well see how things end up. Just need the time to do it all.