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2023/06/06 00:39:51 (permalink)
 
I have 2 brand new unopened EVGA 3090 Ti FTW3 cards and an EK Quantum Vector² block with active back plate for one of them (also unopened).
 
When EVGA pulled out of the GPU market, I had no intention of going to 4090 with some other supplier, and figured I'd stick with the 3090 / 3090 Ti for a couple of years (I have a water-cooled 3090 FTW3 which I have been using up to now).
 
It's time to rebuild, but not sure if I should use one of those 3090 Ti cards and the EKWB block, or sell all that and bite the bullet and buy what would be the first non-EVGA GPU I've purchased in well over 15 years.
 
And if I do upgrade, it would be the 4090, but which model? I will be water cooling it for sure, so there needs to be a corresponding EK block for it.
 
Looked at the rumors on the 4090 Ti and seeing 600W out of the box, and sounding a bit like a fire hazard to me, lol.
 
Or I could wait couple of years (possibly longer) for the 5090(?)... or see what AMD have to offer, but I'm not ready to jump that far from EVGA just yet.
 
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I will use the funds from selling the 3090 Ti cards and block to pay for the new card and block, so it's not going to cost me much if anything either way.
 
I'm having 1st World problems trying to make a decision... any suggestions?
 
 
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 01:36:29 (permalink)
    The 3090Ti is an amazing card and still should allow you to play anything at max settings. The 4090 is also a great card so it  would depend on how much you would have to pay out of pocket to upgrade and if DLSS 3.0 is something you would really use.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 02:00:05 (permalink)
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    The 3090Ti is an amazing card and still should allow you to play anything at max settings. The 4090 is also a great card so it  would depend on how much you would have to pay out of pocket to upgrade and if DLSS 3.0 is something you would really use.


    +1. Sounds like you'll be a winner whatever you decide. 

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 02:07:27 (permalink)
    Get a 4090 for sure. The gigabyte rtx 4090 gaming oc comes with a 4 year warranty. I have the card in my system right now, and I've never had a problem with it.
     
    A waterblock will void your warranty I believe on any asus, gigabyte, or msi 4090 model I believe as they don't allow you to put a block on for the best cooling, and then simply return it to stock for warranty rma'ing like evga would allow. 
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 04:37:14 (permalink)
    I can see both sides of the argument. The 3090Ti is a great card.....but ..I'd (personally) probably sell and buy a 4090....
    not that 'future proof' is quite correct, but newer generation better performance....yeah, 4090 for me.
     
    that being said, I'm not upgrading this gen ;)
     

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 04:43:16 (permalink)
    I went from a 3080 ti to the Asus Tuf 4090 and the performance increase is incredible. It crushes everything at 4K.
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 04:43:29 (permalink)
    Not sure what to say...
    I play on a EVGA z690 dk, 12900k, MSI 4090 liquid x suprim. It plays all my heavily modded games of Skyrim SE and fo4 in 4k at 144 fps, my games look more like a showcase video for modding and very playable. Never dreamed of it being that good on my EVGA sr2 with Asus rtx 2080ti strix.
    But hey I never had a 3090, so I am not sure what to say, other than 4090 is going to be better by a large margin still if the charts are to be believed.
    If I still had my last set up, I prob would have stayed with that, and been playing in 1440p.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 04:52:01 (permalink)
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    I have 2 brand new unopened EVGA 3090 Ti FTW3 cards and an EK Quantum Vector² block with active back plate for one of them (also unopened).
     
    When EVGA pulled out of the GPU market, I had no intention of going to 4090 with some other supplier, and figured I'd stick with the 3090 / 3090 Ti for a couple of years (I have a water-cooled 3090 FTW3 which I have been using up to now).
     
    It's time to rebuild, but not sure if I should use one of those 3090 Ti cards and the EKWB block, or sell all that and bite the bullet and buy what would be the first non-EVGA GPU I've purchased in well over 15 years.
     
    And if I do upgrade, it would be the 4090, but which model? I will be water cooling it for sure, so there needs to be a corresponding EK block for it.
     
    Looked at the rumors on the 4090 Ti and seeing 600W out of the box, and sounding a bit like a fire hazard to me, lol.
     
    Or I could wait couple of years (possibly longer) for the 5090(?)... or see what AMD have to offer, but I'm not ready to jump that far from EVGA just yet.
     
    Use is primarily for 3D rendering and gaming, also some photoshop and maybe video editing if I ever get time.
     
    Z790 + i9-13900K platform.
     
    I will use the funds from selling the 3090 Ti cards and block to pay for the new card and block, so it's not going to cost me much if anything either way.
     
    I'm having 1st World problems trying to make a decision... any suggestions?
     
     


    Since you have two i would use one with the block for now and wait for 4090Ti or newer (the 4090 speaks for itself and is way better, but it's solely up to you to know if you need more performance or not).
    If you have decided to go with 4090 anyways, i would go with ASUS Strix OC (otherwise i would choose Galax 4090 SG, but no blocks for it and you may have difficulty sourcing it, same with Galax 4090 HoF).

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 08:07:50 (permalink)
    You can get a Heatkiller block for FE and STRIX/TUF. The blocks are similar in price, but I like the looks a lot better, plus the tubing locations seem much more approachable in a variety of cases. Some of the cards for 4090's got so tall that the blocks put the fittings much farther away from the motherboard than ever before, leading to a system you can't put a glass panel back on unless you're vertically mounting it.
     
    Personally, I was really hoping for something better from AMD, but based on the prices of everything and the lack of warranty support for putting your own block on, I'm just holding for now and waiting on the next gen (or at least 4090ti). I don't have any games that are pushing my 3080ti too hard to the point where I feel like I'm missing out on FPS (or graphical quality). If something comes out with some beautiful ray tracing and the game looks like it's really fun, I'd be inclined to push harder. If I won a founders 4090 in a giveaway or contest or something, I'd slap a Heatkiller block on it and have fun. Otherwise I'll just see what shows up in the next year or so.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 08:55:54 (permalink)
    When I had a lot of parts laying around, I built my wife z790 13900k w/ 3090 ti and EX V2 and sold off the Kingpin HC. EK Blocks are much better than any HC . Her Monitor is an UW 1440 so it's only 4.9Mp and is going to shred everything that comes out for years to come. If you get a 4090, get the cheapest one, (a Strix is a complete waste) they are all the same, I have a Suprim liquid and Bocked it with an EK from day one, the cooler and pads are wrapped up and I would put it back to stock if I had to RMA it , not worried about that. Warranty stickers are not legal for warranty denial in US. The 4090 still crushes everything even at 7680x1440@144hz . But a paid for 3090ti is awesome and if the 4090TI comes out and is even better, it's drain and pnp.
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/06 16:31:39 (permalink)
    A good question would be what games are you playing? Sometimes performance at the game level is about the same.

    If you are someone who is getting into a long term game like Diablo 4 it’s worth seeing how the performance is on both.
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/07 07:03:59 (permalink)
    Interestingly , the 3090Ti at 4.9Mp and the 4090 at 11Mp run very similar frame rates on the latest AAA titles.
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/07 09:39:48 (permalink)
    Is SLI a thing anymore? I know on paper the 2 3090 Ti will be faster but not sure on real world scenarios (asking because I thought about pick up another 3090ti Since I am running a x299 chipset and 4090 would be bottlenecked)

       
       
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/07 10:15:20 (permalink)
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    Is SLI a thing anymore?

    No, NVIDIA officially discontinued support. It's now up to individual developers to implement SLI, and few do.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/07 10:59:23 (permalink)
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    A good question would be what games are you playing? Sometimes performance at the game level is about the same.

    If you are someone who is getting into a long term game like Diablo 4 it’s worth seeing how the performance is on both.

    This in addition to what the others have suggested. You also might want to take into consideration what resolutions are you gaming with, multiple monitors used, etc.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/08 19:58:10 (permalink)
    Well the thing going for the cards you have now is they are the last retail of EVGA, they are the last cards to support SLI. Benching you are better off with those, Gaming a 4090. Do you play a lot of the newer games that feature the latest eye candy? If yes it may be worth it. If not possibly no. Even with the AD102-450-A1 chip discontinued and me being disappointed no matter how salty I am about it, I still game. My plan to move to a Super Ultrawide got canned for now maybe until the 50 series depending on what they release... So I upgraded. As for a 4090 TI it will only be just over 18k cuda cores 15% faster out of the box, an average moderate OC on a 4090 will close that gap to 3%, a silicon lottery 4090 OC there will be no real difference. Yet the 4090 TI can oc as well so depending on your lottery win it will smoke the 4090 while OCed as well most will unless your just super unlucky.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/09 00:18:59 (permalink)
    If I were you I would Wait for 5090
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/09 03:20:29 (permalink)
    The 3090ti is a very good card with plenty of horsepower and vram for the future and they are evga units, id say use what you got and wait for the 5 series and maybe by then they'll fix, upgrade or get rid of that horrid new plug theyre trying to push on everyone. If you choose to sell and upgrade, dont go Gigabyte. They seem to have a cracking pcb problem, especially on the 3xxx series. https://youtu.be/JFgsL5NFn_Y  Thats besides their atrocious warranty service with the firey psu's.

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/09 09:53:44 (permalink)
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    Get a 4090 for sure. The gigabyte rtx 4090 gaming oc comes with a 4 year warranty. I have the card in my system right now, and I've never had a problem with it.
     
    A waterblock will void your warranty I believe on any asus, gigabyte, or msi 4090 model I believe as they don't allow you to put a block on for the best cooling, and then simply return it to stock for warranty rma'ing like evga would allow. 


    I'm pretty sure as long as nothing has physically broken and you can put the original card/cooler back together they are required to RMA due to (US) warranty laws?  Companies can no longer void warranty for breaking the sticker seal (at least here in the US).  
     
    For the OP, I put an EK vector tri full block on MSI 4090 (Suprim Liq X) and it basically coasts through anything I throw at it (recent titles).  1440p, max setting, 150-200+ fps.  GPU sits in the 30-40c temp range during load, and haven't even overclocked the GPU yet.. Tons of upside for the future and glad I made the decision.  Have no experience with a 3090ti however, so not much to compare it to how much of an upgrade you will see.
     
     

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/09 17:22:23 (permalink)
    i've been using z790 maximus 13900ks gskill 7600 ram with 4090fe it don't break a sweat turn fans up to 30% on gpu never gets over 55 to 60c still got the 12900ks and msi motherboard it was blue screening occasionally ran hotter but no difference in gaming at all the new rig has giving me zero trouble which is all i wanted if you can upgrade go for it expensive but worth it i think

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/10 20:50:27 (permalink)
    You've already sunk the money into those 3090 TI's, if you're going to drop $1600 + waterblock onto a GPU you might as well get a real performance uplift from doing so, like say a 5090. 3090 Ti's are good enough for anything but extreme 4K settings in some games. I'd suggest keeping them and waiting at least until the 5090. Also, your 3090 Tis will have a warranty for awhile yet...
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/13 19:58:27 (permalink)
     
    Thank you so much for the many responses! Lots of great and very valid points made going either way.
     
    After the very recent issues with Gigabyte pcb weakness, I will be giving them a miss regardless (main concern is Gigabyte's repeated unwillingness to stand behind their products).
     
    ASUS have decent products, but pity help you if anything goes wrong - you're on your own (even if they accept an RMA, they are likely to come up with some reason not to honor it).
     
    MSI seem to have generally ok reviews, I've never owned MSI so I have no experience with them.
     
    I'd also consider just going direct NVidia brand, providing there's a block for it.
     
    Have to consider the warranty issue that many brands have with putting water blocks on their cards.
     
    It doesn't appear anyone has released a retail water-blocked 4090 that isn't an AiO.. is that true?
     
    Clearly the 4090 is a step up in performance, no argument there, but the 3090Ti is still a very powerful card in its own right.
     
    Rendering will be significantly better with the 4090, so that's a definite advantage.
     
    For gaming I mostly play BF2042 at present. There are improvements with the 4090, but 3090 Ti is still great, so not a game-changer for me (ba-dum pshht!)
     
    At present using a 1440p 27" monitor, been waiting for something really good to upgrade to. I'm still waiting, lol. Maybe the ASUS PG27AQDM once it's been out in the wild for a while and assuming reviews are good.. expensive as heck though.
     
    So.. conclusions.
     
    Still a difficult decision, but after reading the various opinions here, and since I already have the 3090Ti cards and block, maybe I should use them. I'm also clinging to the fact that they are the last EVGA GPU and I'm really reluctant to go elsewhere. What also finally clinched it is that I was able to score a NVLink bridge recently (EVGA 100-2W-0130-LR), and although support outside of benching seems to be very limited, it would be kind of fun to open both 3090Ti cards and run them on air in SLI just to see what kind of benchmarks they can pull. Ultimately one of them would end up having a water block put on it and that would become part of my daily rig, and the other would be sold and the funds put aside for the next upgrade.
     
    Looks like I'll skip the 4000 series altogether and reconsider when the 5000 series comes out. 
     
    Again, thank you all for your input, much appreciated, definitely helped clarify things in my mind. 
     
     
    post edited by Nereus - 2023/06/13 20:00:55


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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/13 23:08:50 (permalink)
    Nereus
     
    Thank you so much for the many responses! Lots of great and very valid points made going either way.
     
    After the very recent issues with Gigabyte pcb weakness, I will be giving them a miss regardless (main concern is Gigabyte's repeated unwillingness to stand behind their products).
     
    ASUS have decent products, but pity help you if anything goes wrong - you're on your own (even if they accept an RMA, they are likely to come up with some reason not to honor it).
     
    MSI seem to have generally ok reviews, I've never owned MSI so I have no experience with them.
     
    I'd also consider just going direct NVidia brand, providing there's a block for it.
     
    Have to consider the warranty issue that many brands have with putting water blocks on their cards.
     
    It doesn't appear anyone has released a retail water-blocked 4090 that isn't an AiO.. is that true?
     
    Clearly the 4090 is a step up in performance, no argument there, but the 3090Ti is still a very powerful card in its own right.
     
    Rendering will be significantly better with the 4090, so that's a definite advantage.
     
    For gaming I mostly play BF2042 at present. There are improvements with the 4090, but 3090 Ti is still great, so not a game-changer for me (ba-dum pshht!)
     
    At present using a 1440p 27" monitor, been waiting for something really good to upgrade to. I'm still waiting, lol. Maybe the ASUS PG27AQDM once it's been out in the wild for a while and assuming reviews are good.. expensive as heck though.
     
    So.. conclusions.
     
    Still a difficult decision, but after reading the various opinions here, and since I already have the 3090Ti cards and block, maybe I should use them. I'm also clinging to the fact that they are the last EVGA GPU and I'm really reluctant to go elsewhere. What also finally clinched it is that I was able to score a NVLink bridge recently (EVGA 100-2W-0130-LR), and although support outside of benching seems to be very limited, it would be kind of fun to open both 3090Ti cards and run them on air in SLI just to see what kind of benchmarks they can pull. Ultimately one of them would end up having a water block put on it and that would become part of my daily rig, and the other would be sold and the funds put aside for the next upgrade.
     
    Looks like I'll skip the 4000 series altogether and reconsider when the 5000 series comes out. 
     
    Again, thank you all for your input, much appreciated, definitely helped clarify things in my mind. 
     
     




    It's worth looking at the market and seeing if anything changes but my guess is it will take the 5000 series before the rest of the market adjusts to not having EVGA making good water cooled cards.  Probably another company will jump into that area. 

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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/14 04:08:42 (permalink)
    I've heard about two non-AIO watercooled cards, but they either haven't launched yet or haven't launched in the US. Either way I don't think either one will be reaching the US market anytime soon.
     
    Yes, the issue with Gigabyte card PCBs is concerning. Wasatch did a great video on it and he's probably right that it's a combination of factors. That being said, he illustrates that Gigabyte shapes their card PCB differently (and continues to do so on the 4090) in a way that would focus PCB stress onto the notch area. It's unfortunate GB is the only company to offer a 4 year warranty... I am pretty sure they wouldn't take kindly to users JB welding the PCB notch area to reinforce it.  EVGA, ASUS, and MSI shape their card PCBs the same, it makes no sense why Gigabyte would continue to do it differently on its cards when it's a known contributing factor.


    Have water, will cool. 
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/14 04:26:48 (permalink)
    Haven't had a problem with the pcb cracking on my gigabyte rtx 4090 gaming oc. Probably because it's mounted vertically instead of horizontally.
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/15 09:30:13 (permalink)
    Wait for 50 series. RTX 40 series is a joke and beta test for Nvidia from what it seems like. 
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/17 08:40:32 (permalink)
    Nereus
     
    Thank you so much for the many responses! Lots of great and very valid points made going either way.
     
    After the very recent issues with Gigabyte pcb weakness, I will be giving them a miss regardless (main concern is Gigabyte's repeated unwillingness to stand behind their products).
     
    ASUS have decent products, but pity help you if anything goes wrong - you're on your own (even if they accept an RMA, they are likely to come up with some reason not to honor it).
     
    MSI seem to have generally ok reviews, I've never owned MSI so I have no experience with them.
     
    I'd also consider just going direct NVidia brand, providing there's a block for it.
     
    Have to consider the warranty issue that many brands have with putting water blocks on their cards.
     
    It doesn't appear anyone has released a retail water-blocked 4090 that isn't an AiO.. is that true?
     
    Clearly the 4090 is a step up in performance, no argument there, but the 3090Ti is still a very powerful card in its own right.
     
    Rendering will be significantly better with the 4090, so that's a definite advantage.
     
    For gaming I mostly play BF2042 at present. There are improvements with the 4090, but 3090 Ti is still great, so not a game-changer for me (ba-dum pshht!)
     
    At present using a 1440p 27" monitor, been waiting for something really good to upgrade to. I'm still waiting, lol. Maybe the ASUS PG27AQDM once it's been out in the wild for a while and assuming reviews are good.. expensive as heck though.
     
    So.. conclusions.
     
    Still a difficult decision, but after reading the various opinions here, and since I already have the 3090Ti cards and block, maybe I should use them. I'm also clinging to the fact that they are the last EVGA GPU and I'm really reluctant to go elsewhere. What also finally clinched it is that I was able to score a NVLink bridge recently (EVGA 100-2W-0130-LR), and although support outside of benching seems to be very limited, it would be kind of fun to open both 3090Ti cards and run them on air in SLI just to see what kind of benchmarks they can pull. Ultimately one of them would end up having a water block put on it and that would become part of my daily rig, and the other would be sold and the funds put aside for the next upgrade.
     
    Looks like I'll skip the 4000 series altogether and reconsider when the 5000 series comes out. 
     
    Again, thank you all for your input, much appreciated, definitely helped clarify things in my mind. 
     
     




    This is fine, My wife's 3090TI chews through everything out there, I paid 2069 plus 280 for the water block, + I wasn't getting anything for it on the open market, so use it, and is why I built my wife a new PC , for any 1 single monitor the 3090ti Plenty. and I got a system with backup parts , everything is still stupid power hungry now, Hoping the next gen in late 24 finally starts heading back toward better efficiency  
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/19 04:20:44 (permalink)
    what game even needs a 3090?


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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/06/19 23:59:10 (permalink)
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    what game even needs a 3090?

     
    Depends what one's aim is, in terms of resolution and framerate.
    My EVGA 3080 10GB is struggling to sustain high framerates (over 60) at 3840x1600 with recent titles and with the likes of Starfield, Alan Wake 2, Alone in the Dark, Silent Hill 2 (and hopefully Ghost of Tsushima and/or TLoU Part 2) coming out soon enough... I doubt I can hold out until the next generation cards will be released.
    I am curious what a 4080Ti might bring to the table, but otherwise the 4090 is the only one that makes sense as an upgrade from the current crop.

    Now, had I had a 3090Ti like the OP... I'm fairly certain I'd have happily waited for the 50xx series.
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    Re: Go to 4090 or stick with 3090 Ti and wait for next gen or maybe 4090 Ti? 2023/07/03 13:30:08 (permalink)
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    ...
    I play on a EVGA z690 dk, 12900k, MSI 4090 liquid x suprim. It plays all my heavily modded games of Skyrim SE and fo4 in 4k at 144 fps, my games look more like a showcase video for modding and very playable. ...

    My MSI 4090 Liquid Suprim outperformed my 4090 FE by a margin of about 5 Mill PPD
    Then I bought the Trio X...WoW
    (FE 19mil, MSI Suprim 24mil, MSI Trio X 27 mil+)
    These were the numbers before the rewards on the WU's tanked..
    Warranty would not be a problem with the Suprim.
    The Suprim came with a bonus mousepad...





     
     
     
     
     





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