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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 08:35:27 (permalink)
So Q, how'd the ln2 session go?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 12:34:12 (permalink)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 15:59:48 (permalink)
So you went through all 50L or LN2?  Usually I tend to figure things out when I am down to the last bit of DICE, or LN2.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 16:43:54 (permalink)
No not all of it, I have maybe 15-20L left.   Made ice cream tonight...yummy.  Talk about high fat content, LOL.  We used half & half and it turned out great.
 
I'll see what tonight brings, then I got to get back to work.  So maybe next week end.  And yea, Nate, the LN2 ended up being $57 after airgas added an $8 hazmat charge, so check them out in your area.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 17:34:44 (permalink)
Q this is way off topic but how do you make LN2 ice cream?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 17:56:37 (permalink)
Halo, youtube it.  I seen it there some time ago
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 18:02:37 (permalink)
Halo_003

Q this is way off topic but how do you make LN2 ice cream?


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/24 21:06:13 (permalink)
Haha I love the look on his face.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 11:54:25 (permalink)
What type of tubing should I be using for 0c and below. This is what I'm using at the moment http://www.homedepot.com/...51&catalogId=10053
Chiller runs from 32f-40f in 10 minute intervals.


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 13:08:34 (permalink)
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What type of tubing should I be using for 0c and below. This is what I'm using at the moment http://www.homedepot.com/...51&catalogId=10053
Chiller runs from 32f-40f in 10 minute intervals.

 
That stuff will work its what I use the braided stuff is better but the 1/2 inch variety is almost impossible to bend. If you have pretty straight connections go for the reinforced braided tubing. Just becarfull it fits so snug it will turn your fittings.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 13:15:38 (permalink)
Thanks Reggie, I was a little worried since the tubing I have is only rated to down 33f and I hit 25f lastnight...


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 15:24:05 (permalink)
It does fine the only problem is it forms condensation super easy. I used it all winter last year with no problem just make sure you do an A+ job on insulation and I recommend hose clamps for each joint too. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 18:10:37 (permalink)
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=647906
 
A bit off topic but you guys never did get to see how it turned out. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 19:24:00 (permalink)
Halo, use smaller pics in your mods rig thread you made! It looks sweet, but when only 1/2 the pics load, it's annoying. Stupid dsl.
 


 
How many BTU does this chiller look to be?


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 19:48:28 (permalink)
Sorry rabid I was lazy and didn't resize. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 20:10:25 (permalink)
5k and its not a chiller yet.......
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 20:19:10 (permalink)
Well it is later on. That pic was just for reference. It is a full blown chiller now; not mine though. Think it would hold up decently to a heavily oc'd i7 though? I could get it for only the cost of shipping, which i think is around $40.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 21:01:43 (permalink)
build your own rabid
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/25 21:05:23 (permalink)
Should hold up fine if temps raise just wait for them to lower before next bench. That's what I did when I had my 3 260's and 920 on the chiller.


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/26 10:15:14 (permalink)
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=647663
 
Check out my thread here, I need some help guys!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/26 10:32:13 (permalink)
My 930 is such an odd CPU... To run 190-196bclk I have to use a CPU VTT of 400 or higher... But at 197 it only needs +350.. lol. Possibly even lower, I just dropped directly to +350 on a whim and it worked.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/26 12:38:10 (permalink)
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My 930 is such an odd CPU... To run 190-196bclk I have to use a CPU VTT of 400 or higher... But at 197 it only needs +350.. lol. Possibly even lower, I just dropped directly to +350 on a whim and it worked.

 
I had a ton of issues using the E758, I let tyger know about since he has one as well... http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=647322
Basically it's the board not your CPU or that's the way it was for me. Also I had the same thing happen with my VTT as your seeing.


 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/26 21:09:33 (permalink)
Yeahhh I can't get 22x198 stable so far, I've been convinced it's the board for a while. Really eyeing that R3E open box on Newegg for $289...

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/28 22:38:25 (permalink)
whats has 2 thumbs 3 GTX 470s and no money.........
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/29 12:32:44 (permalink)
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Yeahhh I can't get 22x198 stable so far, I've been convinced it's the board for a while. Really eyeing that R3E open box on Newegg for $289...

 
Also depends on what uncore multiplier you are using (198 x ? =uncore mhz).  Your IMC may be the limiting factor, not necessarily the mobo.  It may need a ton of VTT to keep up...but it is strange it did better with lower VTT.  I'm learning that it's the uncore in these i7's that hold most people back.  It's always a toss of the coin....swap chip, or swap mobo.  I always lose at heads/tails,lol.  R3E would be sweet though!
 
You can follow this guide from miahallen to get a quick sense of whether your uncore, RAM, or core frequency are messing you up.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/29 19:49:43 (permalink)
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Yeahhh I can't get 22x198 stable so far, I've been convinced it's the board for a while. Really eyeing that R3E open box on Newegg for $289...


Also depends on what uncore multiplier you are using (198 x ? =uncore mhz).  Your IMC may be the limiting factor, not necessarily the mobo.  It may need a ton of VTT to keep up...but it is strange it did better with lower VTT.  I'm learning that it's the uncore in these i7's that hold most people back.  It's always a toss of the coin....swap chip, or swap mobo.  I always lose at heads/tails,lol.  R3E would be sweet though!

You can follow this guide from miahallen to get a quick sense of whether your uncore, RAM, or core frequency are messing you up.

Thanks for the link to that guide I'll look it over this weekend. I've got a feeling I have a really weak IMC though. The Uncore is.. hmm 198x16 I believe, running 6-7-6-18-1T timings on the RAM @ ~1600Mhz.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/29 20:26:11 (permalink)
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Yeahhh I can't get 22x198 stable so far, I've been convinced it's the board for a while. Really eyeing that R3E open box on Newegg for $289...


Also depends on what uncore multiplier you are using (198 x ? =uncore mhz).  Your IMC may be the limiting factor, not necessarily the mobo.  It may need a ton of VTT to keep up...but it is strange it did better with lower VTT.  I'm learning that it's the uncore in these i7's that hold most people back.  It's always a toss of the coin....swap chip, or swap mobo.  I always lose at heads/tails,lol.  R3E would be sweet though!

You can follow this guide from miahallen to get a quick sense of whether your uncore, RAM, or core frequency are messing you up.

Thanks for the link to that guide I'll look it over this weekend. I've got a feeling I have a really weak IMC though. The Uncore is.. hmm 198x16 I believe, running 6-7-6-18-1T timings on the RAM @ ~1600Mhz.

 
Looks like you are right where you need to be with your uncore frequency (3168mhz=198x16), if you are running a RAM divider of 8 (198*8=1584mhz, or approx. 1600).  Bloomfield uncore has to be at least 2x the RAM freq., so you are right there.  Try dropping VTT down to +0 (which I believe is 1.15v on your board).  See what happens...it may not like the juice.
 
And just a heads up for you chiller builders out there....be sure to change your fluid every once and a while.  I was caulking up my poor chiller temps to low 70 ambient temps V. low 60's when I built mine back in March/April.  But turns out it just need to be flushed and cleaned...running -28c with 2 480's burning rubber @......naaaa I'm not even going to mention the voltage

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/30 01:15:20 (permalink)
so yeah i was playing around last night and i now have a benchable stable 4.5ghz in vantage. it should help when i get my next 2 470's
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/30 06:14:20 (permalink)
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so yeah i was playing around last night and i now have a benchable stable 4.5ghz in vantage. it should help when i get my next 2 470's


4.5ghz should do you well.  What kind of cpu score you getting?  And remember, don't throw the vram too high on the 470's, or you'll destroy cpu 1 test stability (and physx test for that matter).  On a somewhat related matter, last night I was pulling 720 watts on cpu test 1....yes, vc's still play a big roll in the vantage cpu tests....unfortunately,lol!
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/10/30 08:23:12 (permalink)
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so yeah i was playing around last night and i now have a benchable stable 4.5ghz in vantage. it should help when i get my next 2 470's


4.5ghz should do you well.  What kind of cpu score you getting?  And remember, don't throw the vram too high on the 470's, or you'll destroy cpu 1 test stability (and physx test for that matter).  On a somewhat related matter, last night I was pulling 720 watts on cpu test 1....yes, vc's still play a big roll in the vantage cpu tests....unfortunately,lol!



im not sure what the score is with physx but without it i get 40700. 
 
also, by Vram do you mean the ram MHZ? i only run it at 1800 or so anyway, gets unstable in ghraphix tests if i go any higher. 
 
 
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