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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 17:04:55 (permalink)


Cold GPU's,  I still cant get calico to pass with the GPU voltages of Jane Nash.  I haven't had a Jane Nash fail in ages.  Now Calico is my enemy. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 17:07:45 (permalink)
to much voltage. or to high a memory over clock for the voltage your using.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 18:10:45 (permalink)
are you referring to gpu memory? or RAM?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 19:50:58 (permalink)
gpu memory.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 22:00:20 (permalink)
ARG!

Out of thermal paste till tomorrow...



I got about half the amount on the chip I wanted to... so I think I'm up a few degrees.  I just bought a new 920 3938A253 "DO" from Micro Center to tide me over till Monday when I should be receiving and older 3845B259 "DO"... most of those 3845BXXX were pretty good... to bad it couldn't be and B026 or B027!  I think this time I will be more carefull about how I hook of the tec chiller.  I mistakenly plugged a pcie 6 pin into what I thought was a PCIE 6 pin socket on the Corsair HX-850... WRONG!  No wonder it shorted out!  It was the SATA/Molex 6 pin... LOL... live and learn.

Anyway... we will see what this recent production "A" batch can do.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 22:21:46 (permalink)
too much technical talk for me..just jump in and bench and see what happens...:)

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/06 23:10:14 (permalink)
Blah... this new "DO" can't even hit 4.5ghz at 1.55v with 10*c coolant.  Maybe some new paste but really the core temps were in the mid 70*c range so not bad on temps.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/07 09:58:47 (permalink)
It's here...the new Swiftech Apogee XT... (the Heatkiller killer)!!! It is more restrictive than the Heatkiller...but doesn't hurt me using it just in a cpu loop and nothing more pumping can't solve.  I will post the results.
 

 
 
I can't believe Sidewinder forgot to add my Shin-Etsu X23-7783D thermal paste... arg!!!  Glad I ordered some  MX-2 and MX-3.  Don't get me wrong... I love Gary and Sidewinder... they must have been swamped... still recovering from their move to a bigger building.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/07 11:51:50 (permalink)
to much tech?  bah.  humbug.

I just realized why I kept getting air in my lines... you guys would fall over laughing at me if I told you what I did

70°C!?  OUUCHH?!  I know my chip quite well... the closer the chip gets to 50°C... the more prone to crash.  47°C seems to be the threshold.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/07 13:06:13 (permalink)
probably let the hose ride up in the res..(guessing)

70°C!?  OUUCHH?!  I know my chip quite well... the closer the chip gets to 50°C... the more prone to crash.  47°C seems to be the threshold.<-----my chip has been above this and still gotten 63k to 65k cpu scores, but will crash if it hits about 78 or so.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/07 16:50:41 (permalink)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/08 11:20:51 (permalink)
johnksss

probably let the hose ride up in the res..(guessing)


Not even close
but i fixed the problem.  back to benching for the day
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/08 11:59:45 (permalink)
so what was the problem?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/08 15:20:07 (permalink)
I will put it to you this way... I made Prestone soda 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/08 16:49:09 (permalink)
Correction... cant have CPU go over 50°C
under that... fine
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/08 20:09:00 (permalink)
Well... the new Swiftech XT waterblock beat my old Swiftech GTZ by 10*C.  It was supposed to be better but not that much better.  I was trying to figure out what it was... so I opened up the old block and found this debris.  I guess I will have to try the old block out again after I clean it and see how much better it really was. 
 
One thing I love about the Swiftech block is the mounting system... you have to love it!  Also the new block's inlet can be rotatated 180 degrees providing more space between the 2 hose barbs which will be nice as 2 peices of Armaflex pipe insulation should fit nicely now.
 






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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 03:38:47 (permalink)
damn, can't see the pictures at work. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 05:57:08 (permalink)
Another Power Predicament:

I spent 300.00 for the PC Power and Cooling 860W PS.  That gives me over 64 amps on that single rail, and I am only using just a PCI-E 8 pin, and 6 pin cable to power the primary 295 in the SLI system. 
(http://www.microcenter.co...ml?product_id=0282286)

Now for that same 300.00 I can get an 1100W ABS power supply
(http://www.newegg.com/Pro...?Item=N82E16817814019)
When comparing the 2 PS's side by side I came up with the ups and downs, considering they both cost the same. 

PROS:
1.  More power: 83A, vs 64A on the 12 volt side (its continuous, not peak power)
2.  More efficient: 87%+ to my known 83%
3.  Modular: (i don't need all the extra wires clogging up the case when only using 2 connections)

CONS:
1. PC P&C has a SEVEN year warranty vs the 3 of the abs

Other considerations:
1.  Already own the PC P&C, no work need be done
2.  Have to shell out the $300 upfront to buy the new abs  from newegg.

Opinions? 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 07:09:29 (permalink)
I thought you bought the PC Power & Cooling 1.2K?

I don't think you can go wrong with PC Power & Cooling... I will have to check out the ABS... that is the second time I heard of them this week.  Until now I have never heard of them.  The ABS is efficient... but the only thing that means is you will be using less power... it doesn't mean the power will be cleaner. 

I will have to do some research.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 07:31:14 (permalink)
ABS = Tagan

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 07:39:31 (permalink)
I do have the 1200.  I have both.

the 1200 running everything except the 295 in slot 1.  That is for the 860W.  Just wondering if it would be worth while to "upgrade"  but loose 3 years of warranty. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 07:41:58 (permalink)
It would seem that the ABS "Dark Beret" series would not be in the same league as PC Power & Cooling PSU's... maybe the "Tagan" series... but I really love the old school single rail concept of the PC Power & Cooling.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 08:24:53 (permalink)
Nate, stick with what you have,(PC Power&Cooling) If you do a little research, you will find that they give their specs. in a "real world" environment.Most test under really cold temps,which gives higher results, but Pc Power tests under normal power supply temps.Like anything else, outputs will drop under temp rise. Not with the PC Power unit. Your power supply gets HOT when you're loading it (benching) as i'm sure you already found out. Notice how high the fan on the power supply really speeds up while you are benching? In fact, my 1200 REALLY gets quite loud.      http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/#m2
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 09:00:40 (permalink)
PC Power & Cooling Single rail FTW!!!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 11:36:03 (permalink)
Another to consider 1000w 12v one rail mean well psu has 83 amps on 12 v
http://www.trcelectronics.com/Meanwell/se-1000-12.shtml

i know meanwell makes decent power supplies and at 210 dollars its not bad at all


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 12:26:47 (permalink)
OC333-  The ABS is also single rail... and more power, and more efficient, and modular

Sgtharry- The Power supply blows cold air out of it.  Heat is not an issue on my computer.  The "chiller" chiller goes through 2 triple rads and a double, which cools off the entire case like air conditioning.

I am going to be the devils advocate... the ABS says its 1100W continuous at 50°C. 

(none of the PC P&C sites work for some reason so you have to directly paste )
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 15:39:54 (permalink)
Hit a brick wall.  ugh.  I am beginning to think that my cards will not put out anymore.  I cant get them to finish a test now at the same clocks that got the 46K in the first place. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 16:35:13 (permalink)
Oh no! And you can't RMA them either, or you'd get Co-Ops. If I RMA my 295, I'd want to see if I could work it out with EVGA so that I get a Classified 285 instead of a Co-Op, with the difference in price($379 vs $530) in EVGA bucks added to my account.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 17:41:31 (permalink)
just need to get back to basics again...when doing allot of changing...you generally have to start sort of over and change your voltage around. start lower and lower over clocks..sometimes the lowers give you better..then after a short break in period yet again...then you should be able to run your original config.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2009/11/09 20:45:55 (permalink)
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just need to get back to basics again...when doing allot of changing...you generally have to start sort of over and change your voltage around. start lower and lower over clocks..sometimes the lowers give you better..then after a short break in period yet again...then you should be able to run your original config.



I Don't know why that is John?  But I think you're right...as unscientific as it sounds, it seems to be true.  You find you can't run anything, even though temps are lower than before...you start just toying around running low clocks, off the wall settings for a few days...then find you're working your way back up to your original settings and....now everything works again?!!!  Strange...


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