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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 20:40:58 (permalink)
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johnksss

also looking at grabbing a 480x, since the 980x isn't making the big jump as i thought it would....probably just wait for the lessor to come out and grab one of those.


I read you'll have to wait until the end of the year for that....and it'll be $500....and it's still just a rumor.  Yea, I don't know about the 980x...I'll find out when I get it colder.

if i had a 4 way board, grabbing 4 480's would be a nice grab for sure.
figures...end of the year...lol
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What's a 480x?

my version of the dual gpu, since i have the 3 sli board. means i need to run dual gpu cards to get quad going
or switch boards and do 4 way.
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the only bench wolfdale still holds on to is 01, i5 and i3 are very strong in 2d benches but they are slower clock for clock compared to bloomfield and gulftown.

gulftown would probably be a better choice since it can do everything but 01, provided you have the right cooling.

so would you say that these chips...i3/i5 would be better over all over the e8600/e8700?
and really...it was more about getting the board and a high end dual chip...because the 775 boards had quite a few chips to bench for points.quads/duals.


so what do you think?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:00:54 (permalink)
the Q6600 didn't cold bug under dice, I could fill the entire pot & walk away.  I say thats a good place to start.  when I am done benching the e8400 I will prolly put the 790i/Q6600 up for sale.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:07:56 (permalink)
so far...none of my chips ever cb'd

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:12:43 (permalink)
I really like my i5 setup, they absolutely scream under ln2.  They have a very low CBB in general (-130c for my 670 and my 660 hasnt gone sub zero yet) and i cant even find the CB of my chip with ln2.  If you like 2d benching then I would definitely say i5 is the better buy over a wolfdale

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:13:58 (permalink)
What do you experience when it cold bugs?  no boot?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:34:53 (permalink)
CB= cold bug, where the cpu crashes from being too cold.
CBB= cold bug boot, which is where the board wont boot at that temp.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:40:05 (permalink)
yeah...im only in the -63 degree club belt...still have quite a ways to go before getting my -100degree  belt

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/11 21:48:09 (permalink)
when my board CBBs it tends to hang on post code 23 (I think thats it anyways)  Havent had a CB yet so I'm not sure what to expect

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 02:54:21 (permalink)
I guess I haven't got a cold bug crash, but the cold bug boot.  And with my classy, it basically FF's until it heats back up. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 03:59:52 (permalink)
if you want to call -50°C "heating back up"
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 04:06:30 (permalink)
Did you set the extreme cooling in the bios or set the jumper?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 04:51:41 (permalink)
I personally haven't ever used that jumper.  Does that allow the board to not bug below -50°C?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 06:51:54 (permalink)
With the 45nm 1366 chips, the CBB is quite high, the motherboard usually doesnt become a factor. I never used the X-Cool jumper and never had a problem cold booting.

The Extreme cooling options in the BIOS just mess with the CPU PPL voltages, maybe some other things. Thats all it does to my knowledge.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 07:26:04 (permalink)
Yes, When I had my phase it would have a problem if I had to clear the cmos. The jumper allowed me to boot even with a default bios.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 07:52:08 (permalink)
i have the SS up and running now and can boot at -35 to -45 without changing anything as well.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 10:33:21 (permalink)
anyone notice that the new eleet tuning utility isn't working right?
meaning that it wont take the voltage above 1.599... or is it just me.
1.07

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 11:08:53 (permalink)
I believe I DL the most current version 3 weeks ago when I got the 980x, and it shows two additional drop downs below the one that goes to 1.6.  If memory serves correct I think you can use the additional drop downs to add another .4 (.2 +.2), for a total of at least 2.0 vcore.  I'm not there to look right now.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 11:17:00 (permalink)
your right there...
but

mine doesn't change. when i went back to the older version. the one before this one..voltage works and changes fine from all 3 places.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 14:13:05 (permalink)
johnksss

anyone notice that the new eleet tuning utility isn't working right?
meaning that it wont take the voltage above 1.599... or is it just me.
1.07


I noticed that to.
Thought it was my board.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 14:25:32 (permalink)
good. so that means it's universal.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 14:38:34 (permalink)
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now that's what im talking about...nvidia up in there on air!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 19:26:55 (permalink)
Nice. Maybe a 480 would be better than a 5870 Lightning then?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 19:49:51 (permalink)
maybe...i was waiting on frys or mc to carry them, so i could grab one....man...im stuck between a few things....
i have action at a e8600 at a good price...waiting to see what they say tomorrow. means i can run a fairly cheap board and run quads on it as well...
i want to get a 980x to find out what my 5970's will do
i want to grab two gtx480's for the win.
would rather have a dual gpu card since i have the 3x sli classified

man!... decisions.... decisions... decisions

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 20:13:21 (permalink)
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maybe...i was waiting on frys or mc to carry them, so i could grab one....man...im stuck between a few things....
i have action at a e8600 at a good price...waiting to see what they say tomorrow. means i can run a fairly cheap board and run quads on it as well...
i want to get a 980x to find out what my 5970's will do
i want to grab two gtx480's for the win.
would rather have a dual gpu card since i have the 3x sli classified

man!... decisions.... decisions... decisions


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 20:39:22 (permalink)
no...yoou send all your money this way...instead...

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 20:43:06 (permalink)
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no...yoou send all your money this way...instead...


k sent. And if you didnt receive any money, thats because I have none.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 20:55:04 (permalink)
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johnksss

no...yoou send all your money this way...instead...


k sent. And if you didnt receive any money, thats because I have none.



then get it from the same place you been getting most of your money from....lol



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/12 21:43:45 (permalink)
wonder if i could pull off a 36 or 37k with a 980x?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/13 09:52:01 (permalink)
Nate, you weren't kidding when you said the flow decreases greatly at sub-zero.  Here's some testing with just a 6' loop out and back in.   Pump is a RIO rated at 1,090 gph!

At room temp



This was about -27C




The interesting thing was I let the chiller get down to -30C, then turned the pump on, and my temps decreased to about -22C over about a minutes time. It then took about 10 min to get back up to -29. I don't know if that means anything or not, or whether with two gpu's and a cpu will decrease it even more. Gonna test for condensation on a GPU tonight.
I don't know if I should use my HK 3.0...didn't someone say not to...rubber o-ring or something.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2010/04/13 10:28:42 (permalink)
looking good Q!

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