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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Sunday, February 17, 2013 0:01 PM (permalink)
If its just for fun (no money, my bet is 
quad 690 beats 3 Titans
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:44 PM (permalink)
GTX-Titan 3-Way beats GTX-690 Quad SLI in EVERY benchmark so far:


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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:49 PM (permalink)
Not rumors...real reviews
By the way, there is only one money bet with Sajin, and the rest are for fun.
The bet booking closed yesterday ..lol as the rumored launch from this same unsavory site mentioned above was supposed to be launched today.
post edited by gladiator7 - Monday, February 18, 2013 7:02 PM
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:50 PM (permalink)
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Not rumors...real reviews

 
That's not a rumor; it was posted on a review site and then taken down earlier today. 
 
Just wait for other reviews but the Titan is supposed to be a beast. No questions about that.

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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:54 PM (permalink)
So i am assuming that you work for expertreviews? I know who put it up, and I am aware that it was taken down.
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:57 PM (permalink)
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So i am assuming that you work for expertreviews? I know who put it up, and I am aware that it was taken down.

 
lol.. you assume wrong.. I saw the post on another forum.. nobody posted it here.. so I posted the pic given the "bet" being talked about.. 

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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:58 PM (permalink)
titan
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 6:59 PM (permalink)
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So i am assuming that you work for expertreviews? I know who put it up, and I am aware that it was taken down.



lol.. you assume wrong.. I saw the post on another forum.. nobody posted it here.. so I posted the pic given the "bet" being talked about.. 

yeah
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 7:24 PM (permalink)
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GTX-Titan 3-Way beats GTX-690 Quad SLI in EVERY benchmark so far:
I realize you're excited but don't make such sweeping generalizations when the data clearly shows three of those games are severely bottlenecked by the CPU.  Who the hell drops $700 extra (which is almost a whole Titan) for the marginal difference in BF3, BL2 and Batman with a stock 3.3GHz i7-3960X?  We have to see this from a case-by-case basis, some folks (depending on the games they play) will not benefit from Titan and see your comment as an outright lie, if it wasn't for the "so far" disclaimer.

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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 7:36 PM (permalink)
Titan is gonna be a day 1 buy for me i think.
Time to upgrade and sell my gtx 590.



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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 8:39 PM (permalink)
Looks like someone is gonna owe me some money. 
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 8:48 PM (permalink)
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Looks like someone is gonna owe me some money. 

Will be happy to payout, or take in, once the legit reviews are in
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 8:49 PM (permalink)
Too many "Bets" of 2 x 3 or 2 x 4 etc.  What exactly are people BETTING on?
 
I trust Lehpron's math, however I am still confused as to what you guys are matching up.





 
 
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 8:51 PM (permalink)
If there is only 10k of them made, it is going to be hard to pick up 1 let alone 2

   
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 8:52 PM (permalink)
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Too many "Bets" of 2 x 3 or 2 x 4 etc.  What exactly are people BETTING on?

I trust Lehpron's math, however I am still confused as to what you guys are matching up.

Betting is closed. However, my bet with Sajin (for $100) was quad 690 > Tri Titan
There are some other friendly bets with no money involved with a few other fellow members here
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 9:05 PM (permalink)
People will use evidence however they like, I'm sure some will use CPU-intensive titles with both CPU-bottlenecks and resolution-bottlenecks to mean Titan isn't worth it (which is BS), but that isn't the graphics card's fault.  The fault goes to the game type and CPU clock and resolution.  
 
Unfortunately since most of us that made our bet didn't specify validity, we all both won and lost the bet with no net difference to our lives.  Good clean fun; semantics does in fact save us.

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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 9:11 PM (permalink)
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People will use evidence however they like, I'm sure some will use CPU-intensive titles with both CPU-bottlenecks and resolution-bottlenecks to mean Titan isn't worth it (which is BS), but that isn't the graphics card's fault.  The fault goes to the game type and CPU clock and resolution.  

Unfortunately since most of us that made our bet didn't specify validity, we all both won and lost the bet with no net difference to our lives.  Good clean fun; semantics does in fact save us.

You are a smart man lehpron. However, being a country boy, I won't game the semantics. I do that sort of work for a living...lol
We'll pick 3 out of 5 independent legit reviews to normalize any anomalizes (biases).
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 9:58 PM (permalink)
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People will use evidence however they like, I'm sure some will use CPU-intensive titles with both CPU-bottlenecks and resolution-bottlenecks to mean Titan isn't worth it (which is BS), but that isn't the graphics card's fault.  The fault goes to the game type and CPU clock and resolution.  

Unfortunately since most of us that made our bet didn't specify validity, we all both won and lost the bet with no net difference to our lives.  Good clean fun; semantics does in fact save us.

 
I'm guessing that someone like me running Surround in greater resolutions may be able to take advantage of Titan.  Pretty soon, I will be moving and selling off all my computer equipment save on rig...and on that rig I will want the fastest most powerful cards I can and run them under water.  I think that 3 x Titan would work nicely for that.





 
 
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 10:21 PM (permalink)
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GTX-Titan 3-Way beats GTX-690 Quad SLI in EVERY benchmark so far:
I realize you're excited but don't make such sweeping generalizations when the data clearly shows three of those games are severely bottlenecked by the CPU.  Who the hell drops $700 extra (which is almost a whole Titan) for the marginal difference in BF3, BL2 and Batman with a stock 3.3GHz i7-3960X?  We have to see this from a case-by-case basis, some folks (depending on the games they play) will not benefit from Titan and see your comment as an outright lie, if it wasn't for the "so far" disclaimer.

 
keep in mind, if it's a cpu bottleneck, it would be affecting both quad 690 and 3-way titan setups.
and the cases clearly shows if cpu is not being bottlenecked, the 3-way titan dominates the quad 690, as it should.
so if the 3 games mentioned are not being bottlenecked by CPU, the 3-way titan would show even more of a lead like the rest of the games.
 
i dont know why people think quad 690 would beat a 3-way titan...
do the math, 3-way titan has more cuda cores, and they are on the same architecture so the cores work the same way.
3way SLI scales hell of a lot better than a 4way/quad would.
 
granted, i still want to see real reviews, but if you do the math, it adds up.

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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 10:49 PM (permalink)
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lehpron

Baasha
GTX-Titan 3-Way beats GTX-690 Quad SLI in EVERY benchmark so far:
I realize you're excited but don't make such sweeping generalizations when the data clearly shows three of those games are severely bottlenecked by the CPU.  Who the hell drops $700 extra (which is almost a whole Titan) for the marginal difference in BF3, BL2 and Batman with a stock 3.3GHz i7-3960X?  We have to see this from a case-by-case basis, some folks (depending on the games they play) will not benefit from Titan and see your comment as an outright lie, if it wasn't for the "so far" disclaimer.


keep in mind, if it's a cpu bottleneck, it would be affecting both quad 690 and 3-way titan setups.
and the cases clearly shows if cpu is not being bottlenecked, the 3-way titan dominates the quad 690, as it should.
so if the 3 games mentioned are not being bottlenecked by CPU, the 3-way titan would show even more of a lead like the rest of the games.

i dont know why people think quad 690 would beat a 3-way titan...
do the math, 3-way titan has more cuda cores, and they are on the same architecture so the cores work the same way.
3way SLI scales hell of a lot better than a 4way/quad would.

granted, i still want to see real reviews, but if you do the math, it adds up.

Thank you very much for the illuminating comments, for people who might just have woken up. This speculation horse has been beaten to death. Let' wait for some legit reviews, which should be soon, as I understand it. But, again, who knows..lol
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Monday, February 18, 2013 10:51 PM (permalink)
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lehpron

Baasha
GTX-Titan 3-Way beats GTX-690 Quad SLI in EVERY benchmark so far:
I realize you're excited but don't make such sweeping generalizations when the data clearly shows three of those games are severely bottlenecked by the CPU.  Who the hell drops $700 extra (which is almost a whole Titan) for the marginal difference in BF3, BL2 and Batman with a stock 3.3GHz i7-3960X?  We have to see this from a case-by-case basis, some folks (depending on the games they play) will not benefit from Titan and see your comment as an outright lie, if it wasn't for the "so far" disclaimer.


keep in mind, if it's a cpu bottleneck, it would be affecting both quad 690 and 3-way titan setups.
and the cases clearly shows if cpu is not being bottlenecked, the 3-way titan dominates the quad 690, as it should.
so if the 3 games mentioned are not being bottlenecked by CPU, the 3-way titan would show even more of a lead like the rest of the games.

i dont know why people think quad 690 would beat a 3-way titan...
do the math, 3-way titan has more cuda cores, and they are on the same architecture so the cores work the same way.
3way SLI scales hell of a lot better than a 4way/quad would.

granted, i still want to see real reviews, but if you do the math, it adds up.

Thank you very much for the illuminating comments, for people who might just have woken up. This speculation horse has been beaten to death. Let' wait for some legit reviews, which should be soon, as I understand it. But, again, who knows..lol

 
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:17 PM (permalink)
I haven't made enough posts to show links, but there's a quad sli gtx 680 review done by nl.hardware I looked through the graphs and picked the one that quad ali made the highest percent difference relative to a single card, it was 3dmark11 performance. 
GTX 680                9.836 (100%)
GTX 680 2 way sli 15.343 (156%)
GTX 680 3 way sli 17.649 (179.4%) of single (only 15% over 2 way)
GTX 680 4 way sli 21.107 (214.6%) of single (only 20% over 3 way)
I'm going to assume Titan at 40% better than the gtx 680 or 140%, assuming a 56% gain, that makes the gtx titan sli score 218% of the gtx 680. 218 > 215.  3 way titan assuming a 79.4% gain is 251.2% of a GTX 680.  from those numbers, it looks like Titan 2 way sli may beat a 4 way sli gtx 680 marginally, in this test.  However, it will destroy the quad gtx 680 in any double floating point gpgpu application 1300 gflops x 2 = 2.6 tflops to 128 gflops *4 = .552 tflops.  
 
This analysis makes a lot of assumptions, but it proves the diminishing returns of tri quad and even double sli.  Plus, again, I picked the one that quad made the largest percent difference to give a quad 690 its chance.  I bank just a 2 way sli titan will beat the sli 690s in just about every benchmark, based alone on sli scaling.  Lastly, there were some games in this review that showed no improvement with the 4th gpu added, if that 20% gain becomes 0, the sli titans will be much better than 3 680s.  
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:24 AM (permalink)
Time for someone to pay up. 
 
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Re:GTX690 or TITAN???? Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:36 AM (permalink)
Well, I looked at the benchmarks n got a 690 today. I like the titan with 6gb ram but I would never sli it as 2g's is too much $. For 1 card 690 or titan if sli could be wanted later.

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