But but.... those LEDs :D
 
I will wait to see how this pans out... How long before the new Titan "X" or "II"? 

faustfict

Scarlet-Tech
Weird you mention that it should be used exactly how it was designed to be used, lol.

Some assume it can be used on air and buy into the hype, spend like an extra $150 or so over the Classified. Bet 90% of the respondents in this topic are choosing to use it over air. That 20 extra mhz on air is really worth $150 more lol

But it doesn't matter if they buy hype rather than buying what they actually need. There are plenty that will kill the stock pile just for the bragging rights, and then get upset when their card doesn't overclock through the sky because it NEEDS the cooling it was designed to get the ridiculous overclocks that come with extreme cooling.

I bought 2 780ti Classifieds because of the hype, and very quickly became addicted to overclocking them. I just can't find a way to acquire ln2 or dice here.

Some, they buy the card because higher number and bigger price mean they can definitely play CSGO better, or bf4 should get 400fps if they buy 4 of them. Just because they think that way doesn't change what the card is meant for.

What I would LOVE to. See EVGA do is a special pre-order for people that have extreme cooling equipment.. Phase change, dice or ln2 pots.. They get priority over anyone.. Why, because they will use the cards how they were designed.

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faustfict

Scarlet-Tech
Weird you mention that it should be used exactly how it was designed to be used, lol.

Some assume it can be used on air and buy into the hype, spend like an extra $150 or so over the Classified. Bet 90% of the respondents in this topic are choosing to use it over air. That 20 extra mhz on air is really worth $150 more lol

But it doesn't matter if they buy hype rather than buying what they actually need. There are plenty that will kill the stock pile just for the bragging rights, and then get upset when their card doesn't overclock through the sky because it NEEDS the cooling it was designed to get the ridiculous overclocks that come with extreme cooling.

I bought 2 780ti Classifieds because of the hype, and very quickly became addicted to overclocking them. I just can't find a way to acquire ln2 or dice here.

Some, they buy the card because higher number and bigger price mean they can definitely play CSGO better, or bf4 should get 400fps if they buy 4 of them. Just because they think that way doesn't change what the card is meant for.

What I would LOVE to. See EVGA do is a special pre-order for people that have extreme cooling equipment.. Phase change, dice or ln2 pots.. They get priority over anyone.. Why, because they will use the cards how they were designed.

The only way to run those bastards of cards :D

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faustfict

Scarlet-Tech
Weird you mention that it should be used exactly how it was designed to be used, lol.

Some assume it can be used on air and buy into the hype, spend like an extra $150 or so over the Classified. Bet 90% of the respondents in this topic are choosing to use it over air. That 20 extra mhz on air is really worth $150 more lol

But it doesn't matter if they buy hype rather than buying what they actually need. There are plenty that will kill the stock pile just for the bragging rights, and then get upset when their card doesn't overclock through the sky because it NEEDS the cooling it was designed to get the ridiculous overclocks that come with extreme cooling.

I bought 2 780ti Classifieds because of the hype, and very quickly became addicted to overclocking them. I just can't find a way to acquire ln2 or dice here.

Some, they buy the card because higher number and bigger price mean they can definitely play CSGO better, or bf4 should get 400fps if they buy 4 of them. Just because they think that way doesn't change what the card is meant for.

What I would LOVE to. See EVGA do is a special pre-order for people that have extreme cooling equipment.. Phase change, dice or ln2 pots.. They get priority over anyone.. Why, because they will use the cards how they were designed.

 
Lol, this helped make my decision.  I'm just barely getting into ocing and water cooling.  I think I'll skip these for a bit and crawl before I walk.

I think lot of people, gamers who no money to afford LN2 or Dice have rights to choose cards with highest clock.
If they are in inferior position why they to choose EVGA reference board over Galaxy with same clock as Classified example, or why to import EVGA from Europe where Asia and Europe is full of ASUS and MSI with same PCB or better custom for less money than EVGA reference. Than they not deserve real EVGA because don't want or don't have money to drain last percent from card and replace burned hardware with new. They will not meet real EVGA with Superclocked or similar. Don't forget one thing Classified and K|NGP|N Classified GTX780Ti are not cards with biggest number of phases and highest clock among GTX780Ti, both of them. Why someone should to choose reference PCB instead of that, because love with technical support, to replace highest clock and score and fps for good technical support. OK than EVGA for overclockers, LN2, Dice, for gamers who like high clock Galaxy. 
 

And me too, but some group of people try to explain that such cards are not for us, and like we not deserve them.
MSI and ASUS will gladly help them to spread such news and write on their models for Gamers, Gaming, etc...
because who made strictly for LN2 and overclockers he will bankrupt. That's minority of minority in minority.
But from day 1 when EVGA show K|NGP|N people worldwide try to explain that gamers should forget on such card and buy something else.
Like our target is not highest clock saved in BIOS.
 

right, and also, EVGA's cards work nicely in smaller cases.  Mine stays in low 60s even when gaming in 4K.

Scarlet-Tech

ganzosrevenge
right, and also, EVGA's cards work nicely in smaller cases.  Mine stays in low 60s even when gaming in 4K.

FTW has exactly what you are looking for without the extreme cooling implementations. It isn't about clock speed or warranty, it's about prestige for air cooling and water. I love my cards for sure, but I have done everything I can to get them as cold as possible while watercooling, so that I can bench them.

Yup, but when I bought mine the 780 Ti classy was cheaper than a normal 780 Ti.  So... if i can get 1020 for less than 876, why not.

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ganzosrevenge

Scarlet-Tech

ganzosrevenge
right, and also, EVGA's cards work nicely in smaller cases.  Mine stays in low 60s even when gaming in 4K.

FTW has exactly what you are looking for without the extreme cooling implementations. It isn't about clock speed or warranty, it's about prestige for air cooling and water. I love my cards for sure, but I have done everything I can to get them as cold as possible while watercooling, so that I can bench them.

Yup, but when I bought mine the 780 Ti classy was cheaper than a normal 780 Ti.  So... if i can get 1020 for less than 876, why not.

We aren't talking about 780ti Classified K|ngp|n pre-orders... Are we? Because last I looked, this was very specifically about the 980 K|ngp|n and pre-orders, which is the first time EVGA is doing this with these cards.

Back to what I was saying about those wanting a high clock and warranty with the 980, the FTW is almost $150 cheaper, so saying you only want it for a higher base clock is saying you want to pay $150 extra, just for the regular Classified, for an extra 12mhz base clock. If you aren't using the hardware for overclocking at all, that is an extremely silly thing to do.

If you are on water, phase change, dice or ln2, then it at least makes a little more sense, and if you are overclocking aggressively, this is where one should be buying. Just saying you got. It for the clock speeds is saying you wanted to wave your epeen and wallet around.

on that token, you're 100% correct.  I was admitting the odd circumstance for my GPU.  but yes, in general I do agree the FTW is the sweetspot for "set it and forget it".

And better because they decide to launch card on this way with pre-order because what many people find in GTX780Ti K|NGP|N is shame and for Vince and for EVGA to install reference BIOS in such cards, and bunch of people with cards unstable and for gaming, not for overclocking, and if they are not capable to make more than it's better like this, pre-order for overclockers and other will find other cards with similar clock.
Galaxy have and now one model with higher clock than 980 Classified.

So what, I'm sensitive, that's me. 
And I hate when someone constantly repeat, I mean constantly that's not for gamers, that's not for gaming,
they are not priority, that's not design for them. 
OK, gamers are not main target for only true EVGA, gamers should buy reference card because 100MHz higher clock and because good technical support or eventually FTW but price is same as ASUS Matrix Platinum and more. Gamers are not priority for Classified, Europe is not priority for nothing, better samples are in USA, Europe get much later, price in euro is higher than in dollars, OK, what is next.
I forgot many people get unstable cards and for gaming GTX780Ti K|NGP|N I read for at least 10-20 cases, how many people have same problem when they launch most expensive card on the world with reference BIOS, as poor MSI when screw up with Lightning and launch LE version with smaller clock.
I didn't thought on BIOS problem, this was poor binning or mistakes during testing. 
Some people save money months only to pay better cards with higher clock where no worse chip and someone non stop to repeat them that's not design for them is not fair. 

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Anyone can buy anything they want. A gamer buying a Titan Z is a gamer that doesn't care about performance. A gamer buying a Classified or K|ngp|n card is usually a gamer that isn't looking at overclocking. They don't know what they are buying, they just see big numbers and think, "heck yes, that is so cool I must have it."

How many times did I have to repeat myself when a gamer came in saying that their card wasn't performing in video games the way they wanted, or that their card got hot so it would throttle when they added a ton of voltage and a stupid overclock? I know I had at least 10-20 cases of explaining that the k|ngp|n was unit for extreme cooling.. Many cried saying that wasn't advertised, and when showing them the release page where it stated that it was, they cried because they wasted a ton of extra money for nothing.

That is the gamers fault for not being informed, not the fault of someone that researched and knew exactly what they were buying.

Getting emotional over someone repeating something on a forum is silly. It has to be repeated, because there are going to be at least 200 people that buy this card because, and I quote, "big numbers and leds make it a better card" with no freaking clue why they spent nearly $800+... That isn't EVGA or any other users fault, but they will definitely whine and try to get pity.

When you can buy a reference board card that is preoverclocked to nearly the same exact level and performs on par while using air, why WASTE the extra $300.

The FTW is made targeting gamers. The Classified and K|ngp|n is made targeting extreme overclocking. Any gamer can buy a Classy or an FTW, but bigger numbers and leds will attract them to something they do not understand.

Being one of those that bought the Classy just for a guaranteed clock and a mild overclock on air, I completely agree. I don't have the time or patience to build a water loop. Those that water cool should absolutely have priority over us amateurs. On a side note, I should have gone with the FTW, much better fit for what my purpose is.

This hit me lot even if I know such things can't influence on me, but...
I thought first to leave forum completely but that I think Why, many people here are without EVGA hardware.
I'm gamer on first place, I saw many people think Classified and K|NGP|N Classified are not for gamers and we pay without reason, OK, maybe.
But without Classified and K|NGP|N Classified EVGA is not best option on market for gamers.
 
Depend from year but usually is inferior to at least 3-4 models with at least 50MHz higher clock. I didn't buy EVGA because technical support or step-up, even when GTX780Ti show up I didn't step-up on reference model because K|NGP|N Classified, why is that not for us. 
For us is maybe MSI Gaming, GIGABYTE Windforce Gaming or I think best for us Republic of Gamers, that's for us who want to play games without someone to repeat them constantly we are not priority, we are not target, objective, mission or similar thing. I don't have money for many cards and than I build with best NVIDIA, but I see many, really lot of people not agree with that and think gamers should step a side. I think who is who, gamers of overclocker is irrelevant and both use card for different purpose and both have benefits from high clock, overclockers are minority, we gamers use cards longer and more hours we have benefits from fabric OC. But main purpose is try to someone avoid 50% of worse chips in IT industry, sometimes they are exactly in highest and most expensive EVGA class and sometimes they are weak and for full boost on fabric speed, not for dice or LN2. 
I would like only on one moment to understand competition and that near cards with custom PCB, aluminium coolers, super alloy chokes, technical support around corner many many people really have no reason to look something else than Classified class and that such idea can seriously to hit on first place Europe, people who pay 50e only for shipping and 150-200e total more only because 100-150MHz higher clock and chip must to be perfect and must reach very high clock only to stay stable 3 years for gaming on fabric clock. That's not easy task and that's not just like that buy SC ACX OC and save profile. In 25% yes in 75% no way to stay stable.
 

Buying the KingPin 980 for it's outstanding efficiency, not for benching or LN2 competition. 
 
I might run it stock or even undervolt the sweet bastard for my silent work rig. 
 
Thank you EVGA and Mr. KingPin for making this card a reality, now bring it on. 
 
An A in Physics with Calculus from Baylor University brings me here. 

I likes the pretty lights.  Interested in seeing the VRAM number.