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2018/08/30 23:02:13 (permalink)
As the title states, I'm folding on my 970 SSC and am having some issues with NOISE.  The left fan is running full tilt, the right fan is not spinning at all (might make one or two revolutions then stops and shudders, repeat).  Included is a screenshot.  RPMs read 0, and you can see where as I adjust the fan speed with the override it does not change.  Any idea if this is a flaw in the card?  I don't recall it doing this before.... but it was always in the floor where I couldn't see the fans (now it's up above my desk in my line of sight).
 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/08/30 23:18:36 (permalink)
Sounds like the fan controller on the card has a problem.
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/08/30 23:36:11 (permalink)
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Sounds like the fan controller on the card has a problem.


Like a hardware or a firmware problem?    Wondering if a different bios could be flashed to this puppy to overwrite the default fan curves and spin both at say, 50% or 75% at all times.
 

 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/08/30 23:39:23 (permalink)
Hardware issue. Yep, you could definitely flash a different bios to the card with an adjusted default curve, but it won't help with your current issue.
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/08/31 06:32:45 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Tiger770 2018/09/10 21:14:28
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Sounds like the fan controller on the card has a problem.


man your quick with that answer.. when it likely that cheap power logic fan failed  as I point out several times here before .   I guess you scrap your cards before checking that out ?   lol,, junk a 300 buck card over a 155 buck fan  [ well that 2 fan wired and evga is  25- 45 bucks  ] 
 
 
see that circuitry in the fan motor housing ?  that tends to be what fails  and with 2 cards wired together  the bad fan affects the good one wired to it  and the is what controls the speeds  from off the cards senders    the card tells the fan its getting hot and the fan adjusts that speed
 

 
 
99% of the time here for me its just been replace the fan and alls back to good    if the cars bad then you will be seeing more then the fan at  issue
 
I think that card uses a power logic 87mm dual  set up ?  should be some new one at ebay 
 
example
https://www.ebay.com/p/87mm-VGA-Fan-PLA09215B12H-2-Pin-for-NVIDIA-EVGA-Gtx750ti-Video-Card-From-USA/1938999432?iid=142901152852
 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=evga+gtx+970+fan&_sacat=80151
 
just check your #'s
example
PLA09215D12H, PLA09215B12H - powerlogic fan #'s
 
 
post edited by Dr.Death - 2018/08/31 06:50:58
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/08/31 11:34:35 (permalink)
Changing the fans wouldn't be a bad idea. Hopefully that will resolve the issue. If changing the fans on the card doesn't fix the problem then the fan controller on the card is busted.
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/08/31 15:28:33 (permalink)
bad thing is finding easy to get at a fair price fans  [new] its not like ebay is so trustworthy 35$ +/- aint bad for dual matched stock new fans  .    I had a few cards and been those powerlogic  's   lucky for me I got old / junk cards to pull good fans out of  . may not of been the correct match  and had to super glue one or 2 in place  but all's well after , so far has not been the card at fault
 
may look at dual fans from like asus or sapphire or whoevers   that match up to your size with out going too small in mm   or too big in mm  where its hitting the shroud hole .  next thing is the fans mounting arms   to match the cooler screw holes [where that superglue comes in to play ]   .. if you go with a non evga speced fan/fans  
 
 
I'm just from my experience with them that one fan went bad and the sister fan is working its butt off to maintain any proper temps  . now one thing I don't know is if being a dual fan and wired together  if they got to be matched   or if you got another different say 87mm or whatever fan and wired it in the ''bad'' fan place if that would work out or not .  never had need to test that yet
 
 if you had one fan from any card [known working ]  you could unplug the fans from the board and plug it in there place on the cards fan header  and monitor the behavior  [just let it hang loose off to the side for testing with out it able to fly off and bang around ..lol..]   if the fan works normal  stopped or slow at cold temps and rev's up as temps climb  as they normally  should  then its a easy guess its the stock fans  or one of the 2 went bad 
 
I just hate to see a guy think he got to junk a nice 300 card  over a 15 buck fan  and spend another 200-500 bucks on a new one  over that . 
 
thing is having fans around to test with  or risk the new fans to give a try  , that's all your call  my experience with the power logic's  just try new fans   lot cheaper try the a new card and if it don't work out you stll getting a new card anyway  that's still a slight risk 
 
good luck 
 
 
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/05 18:07:44 (permalink)
well I got my fans out, and was able to match them up.  42mm hole spacing - PLA09215B12H.  Now to just find a shipper that's not located in china.  I really don't want to wait 6-12 weeks for a pair of fans for this card (there's folding to be done and Lan parties to be had!).
 
 

 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/06 07:55:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Tiger770 2018/09/10 22:32:00
that's a trick 
 
now look at fans from say msi sapphire ,ect.. may have the same  from a usa guy ?
 
fans I used did not matck  on the mounting  or size     I used    https://www.amazon.com/IC-2000-Rubber-Toughened-1oz-Adhesive-Glue/dp/B002N507I0
 
to glue them in  instead of screws   [ that's mean stuff  sets slow so you got good time to work withit like lining things up spot on ] 
 
I got one NVidia card  and one powercolor  like that over a year old as still going        none of the fans used were correct in size or mounting legs   , but now cool and spin up/down as new as with correct fans that were in them 
 
me . I don't care I make it work  satisfactory  or junk it /junk box for what comes up next to give a try / parts .   I try all with what means I have available  at hand first  .     buy something new is last resort / no choice
 
just comes down to how much you feel comfortable to be able to do  or want to do and time/money your willing  to put in to something .  
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/06 20:27:32 (permalink)
Found a guy in Jersey who had them in stock.  Should be here Monday.  Part number, connector pins, blade diameter and mounting hole brackets all matched up (checked with digital calipers because I want a direct fit).
 

 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/07 07:04:30 (permalink)
I hope it works out then  .   the fans has so far been the trick for me on other cards   weather using the correct ones or not  , but  maybe as well for you or something else  like the card is bad in some way     . just what you posted  I like the chances of the fans  .   like anything it works out or it don't      I think trhe price of a fans is worth the try over just junking the card  right off
 
 
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/07 11:10:22 (permalink)
Thanks. I wouldn’t junk the card if the fans don’t fix it. It’s just loud, not unusable. :). I might cut out the fans and swap their locations so the RPM can be detected on the other line (if like you said the replacement doesn’t do the trick or unless there is something wrong with the card itself).

 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/08 06:47:27 (permalink)
also those  aftermarket air coolers are reasonable  priced as well
 
like something from here for example
https://www.newegg.com/VGA-Cooling/SubCategory/ID-576
 
I could be wrong but from what I seen here the fans like the powerlogics are a smart fan    they get the temp reading from the card and they do the speed or whatnot  ?   anyway so far with them fans the card s had fan issues  just replacing them with known working fans did the trick  and those cards work well as normal now ? 
trhat don't mean it still could be something deeper in the card ..   its just a try this try that and hope for the best easy cheap out come and save a card thing
 
 
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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/10 21:13:56 (permalink)
Dr. Death, today you have earned your PhD for as far as I'm concerned.  You were spot on, in that you were exactly - 100% - correct in the fan being the problem.  The replacement from Jersey via ebay arrived today, and after the installation I now can see the RPMs of the fans, adjust the duty cycle of the fans, and most importantly, the card under full load is no longer a jet engine (as both spin together - the way I assume God intended).
 
Thank you sir, for your most helpful posting.  For $33 I have a quiet house again when the folding month rolls around, and for this my wife (and my own peace of mind) thanks you. 
 
Cheers!
 

 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/10 21:14:46 (permalink)
Mods, let's go ahead and give this man a Blue Ribbon.  He's earned it.

 

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Re: GTX 970 SSC - under full load, temps near 70, left fan max, right fan dead 2018/09/10 21:19:35 (permalink)
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Mods, let's go ahead and give this man a Blue Ribbon.  He's earned it.


Done. 
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