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2019/02/13 12:24:06 (permalink)
Anyone have any good comparison between these two?
Interested in FPS numbers in 1440p.
I saw a nice comparison the Bitwit did between the 1080 ti ftw3 and 2080 ROG Strix OC.
The 1080 ftw3 came out on top on a few games in 1440p.
And overall, very similar performance wise.

Just wondering if the 2080 ftw3 is any better then these 2 cards.
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 12:32:40 (permalink)
    What are your Findings in the Difference between them?
    It will all depend on the Computer they are going to be installed in.
    What are your Plans?



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 12:46:46 (permalink)

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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 12:51:04 (permalink)
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    What are your Findings in the Difference between them?
    It will all depend on the Computer they are going to be installed in.
    What are your Plans?


    Here are the basic specs of my computer,
    I7 7700k
    16gb 3000mhz ram
    500gb ssd
    850W P2 PSU
    On a MSI z270 pc mate
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 12:54:49 (permalink)
    Good info jmsp0511. Do you know if they used the same PC for this, and defaults on everything? Interesting results...
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 12:58:20 (permalink)
    If I had a 1080TI, I wouldn't bother upgrading to a 2080.  If I wanted faster and had the money, 2080ti, otherwise wait.  The performance to a 2080 isn't worth it.  Wait, save your money, and see what the next year brings.  Hopefully AMD will come out with something that will pull pricing down at least, I also think once the 2080tis start sitting in stock, the prices will drop.  Right now they are ridiculous because of the "I want it" aspect.
     
    The only reason to make the hop to the 2080 is if you are buying a new card because of a new build, or old card failed and you had to order something.  AKA, wouldn't buy last gen new, but not worth replacing it either.  Or if you realllly want to play with RTX/DLSS (in its current limited implementation)
     
     



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 12:59:03 (permalink)
    I agree with Baratak. If you already have a 1080ti, don't bother upgrading. Aside from the ray tracing hoopla of the RTX 2080/2080ti, everything I've read/seen seems to indicate that in current and 2019's upcoming titles, a 1080ti is going to perform close to, equal to, and sometimes better than a 2080. In areas where the 2080 pulls ahead, the difference is marginal. Granted, once overclocked, a 2080 really does start to close the gap between it and the 2080ti. Admittedly, I'm not sure how an overclocked 1080ti compares when overclocking gets factored in. 

    The only reason why I went with a 2080 FTW3 Hybrid as a replacement for my 1070ti 3 weeks ago is because 1080ti's were within just $100 of comparable 2080's. So I decided to pay slightly more for just a little more future proofing. But if I could find a Hybrid 1080ti for $100+ cheaper than a comparable 2080, I would have gone with the 1080ti. 


    post edited by sn0warmy - 2019/02/13 13:03:12
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:05:28 (permalink)


    The results for the 1440p and 2160p, the two cards were overclocked these specs

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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:07:57 (permalink)
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    I agree with Baratak. If you already have a 1080ti, don't bother upgrading. Aside from the ray tracing hoopla of the RTX 2080/2080ti, everything I've read/seen seems to indicate that in current and 2019's upcoming titles, a 1080ti is going to perform close to, equal to, and sometimes better than a 2080. In areas where the 2080 pulls ahead, the difference is marginal. Granted, once overclocked, a 2080 really does start to close the gap between it and the 2080ti. Admittedly, I'm not sure how an overclocked 1080ti compares when overclocking gets factored in. 

    The only reason why I went with a 2080 FTW3 Hybrid as a replacement for my 1070ti 3 weeks ago is because 1080ti's were within just $100 of comparable 2080's. So I decided to pay slightly more for just a little more future proofing. But if I could find a Hybrid 1080ti for $100+ cheaper than a comparable 2080, I would have gone with the 1080ti. 




    My situation is a bit different, i have a guy wanting to buy my 1080 ti ftw card for about $700.
    Which got me really curious about "upgrading" to a rtx 2080.
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:13:38 (permalink)
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    My situation is a bit different, i have a guy wanting to buy my 1080 ti ftw card for about $700.
    Which got me really curious about "upgrading" to a rtx 2080.



    In that case, unless you find a crazy good deal on a 1080ti, a 2080 is going to be a better purchase. Right now the only 1080ti's I seem to find start at $750 with most being over $850. Meanwhile, I picked up my 2080 FTW3 Hybrid from EVGA for $899. It was a no brainer for me. In your case, on top of the $700 you'd make on the 1080ti, you're looking at spending just $50 extra for a 2080 XC Black up to $200 extra for a 2080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid. And you'll be getting into a card that is better prepared for future development changes.  
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:13:46 (permalink)
    jmsp0511


    My situation is a bit different, i have a guy wanting to buy my 1080 ti ftw card for about $700.
    Which got me really curious about "upgrading" to a rtx 2080.

    If I could make the swap for basically $0, I probably would.  Performance is a wash and you get the new features to play with as they come out.
     
    That said, why would anyone want to spend $700 on a last gen card??  



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:15:52 (permalink)
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    jmsp0511
    My situation is a bit different, i have a guy wanting to buy my 1080 ti ftw card for about $700.
    Which got me really curious about "upgrading" to a rtx 2080.



    In that case, unless you find a crazy good deal on a 1080ti, a 2080 is going to be a better purchase. Right now the only 1080ti's I seem to find start at $750 with most being over $850. Meanwhile, I picked up my 2080 FTW3 Hybrid from EVGA for $899. It was a no brainer for me. In your case, on top of the $700 you'd make on the 1080ti, you're looking at spending just $50 extra for a 2080 XC Black up to $200 extra for a 2080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid. And you'll be getting into a card that is better prepared for future development changes.  


    If I was up to $900 already for the 2080, I would be awefully tempted to toss in $100 for the 2080TI Black.  It will likely outperform it in every way.



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:19:12 (permalink)
    Baratak
     
    If I was up to $900 already for the 2080, I would be awefully tempted to toss in $100 for the 2080TI Black.  It will likely outperform it in every way.


    The 2080ti Black is $1,149, putting it $250 more than the 2080 Hybrid. But I will admit that even at that price difference, it is tempting. However, I wanted a factory watercooled card with the 3 year warranty in tact. With that in mind, the 2080ti Hybrid is a $600 jump. That, to me, is not worth it. 

    EDIT: Never mind, you were right. Microcenter does have the 2080ti Black for $1,019. I am loving my 58 Celsius max temps but now I am tempted to return the 2080 Hybrid and pickup the 2080ti Black. Damn you!
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:24:01 (permalink)
    The Black XC is $1150, the black gaming (link below) is $1000
     
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2281-KR
     
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    Baratak
     
    If I was up to $900 already for the 2080, I would be awefully tempted to toss in $100 for the 2080TI Black.  It will likely outperform it in every way.


    The 2080ti Black is $1,149, putting it $250 more than the 2080 Hybrid. But I will admit that even at that price difference, it is tempting. However, I wanted a factory watercooled card with the 3 year warranty in tact. With that in mind, the 2080ti Hybrid is a $600 jump. That, to me, is not worth it. 

    EDIT: Nevermind... Microcenter does have the 2080ti Black for $1,019. This is tempting...




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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:27:20 (permalink)
    sn0warmy
     
    EDIT: Never mind, you were right. Microcenter does have the 2080ti Black for $1,019. I am loving my 58 Celsius max temps but now I am tempted to return the 2080 Hybrid and pickup the 2080ti Black. Damn you!


    Muhahahahahahahah!!!




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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:28:32 (permalink)
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    The Black XC is $1150, the black gaming (link below) is $1000
     
     
     


    Yeah, I updated my previous post to reflect that, as well. Microcenter has it for $1,019. I'm tempted to go pick it up today for an extra $19 (they might even price match) and run some testing to see how much better it really is than my 2080 hybrid. Temps and fan noise will play a major factor for me, as well. But if I can keep it quiet and achieve a notable improvement in performance in BF5 and other major titles, it may be the way to go.   


    ...just when I thought my build was complete. 
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:30:31 (permalink)
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    The Black XC is $1150, the black gaming (link below) is $1000
     
     
     


    Yeah, I updated my previous post to reflect that, as well. Microcenter has it for $1,019. I'm tempted to go pick it up today for an extra $19 (they might even price match) and run some testing to see how much better it really is than my 2080 hybrid. Temps and fan noise will play a major factor for me, as well. But if I can keep it quiet and achieve a notable improvement in performance in BF5 and other major titles, it may be the way to go.   


    I am already excited to see these results if you go through with this.
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:32:41 (permalink)
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    The Black XC is $1150, the black gaming (link below) is $1000
     
     
     


    Yeah, I updated my previous post to reflect that, as well. Microcenter has it for $1,019. I'm tempted to go pick it up today for an extra $19 (they might even price match) and run some testing to see how much better it really is than my 2080 hybrid. Temps and fan noise will play a major factor for me, as well.  


    It would be an interesting test.  The black without any OC will likely be faster than the 2080 at max overclock, it would also be easier/cleaner install without dealing with the external Rad.
     
    Go black, either small or no overclock and it should stay pretty quiet.  
     
    Keep in mind, when I say you should keep it an easier install I am talking out of my backside... since I am on 2x FTW3 2080tis with waterblocks to keep them silent what hard tubing.  Basically as complicated as possible.  



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:38:19 (permalink)
    Baratak
     
    It would be an interesting test.  The black without any OC will likely be faster than the 2080 at max overclock, it would also be easier/cleaner install without dealing with the external Rad.
     
    Go black, either small or no overclock and it should stay pretty quiet.  
     
    Keep in mind, when I say you should keep it an easier install I am talking out of my backside... since I am on 2x FTW3 2080tis with waterblocks to keep them silent what hard tubing.  Basically as complicated as possible.  



    I'm actually very happy with the 2080 Hybrid setup. I have it configured in a push/pull configuration and even with fans never going over 50% (and rarely over 40%) my max temps never exceed 58 Celsius, even with a +110 core and +800 memory overclock. This thing is practically silent at full load. The thought of messing with it again is giving me serious pause. But you guys are making me truly consider running to grab the 2080ti Black and going through with the tests...
     
    My current setup:

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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:45:37 (permalink)
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    I'm actually very happy with the 2080 Hybrid setup. I have it configured in a push/pull configuration and even with fans never going over 50% (and rarely over 40%) my max temps never exceed 58 Celsius, even with a +110 core and +800 memory overclock. This thing is practically silent at full load. The thought of messing with it again is giving me serious pause. But you guys are making me truly consider running to grab the 2080ti Black and going through with the tests...
     

    That is very pretty!!  nice setup install.
     
    I may be biased and curious without wanting to do the work/testing myself... but I say do it  :)
     
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:49:19 (permalink)
    I would get the 2080 Ti Black for real performance gains over the 2080 FTW3 Ultra.
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:54:36 (permalink)
    Baratak
     
    That is very pretty!!  nice setup install.
     
    I may be biased and curious without wanting to do the work/testing myself... but I say do it  :)
     
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    I would get the 2080 Ti Black for real performance gains over the 2080 FTW3 Ultra.



    I guess where I'm struggling is with the current 2080 Hybrid, in BF5 on Ultra settings + 1440p, I'm getting around 100-120fps consistently, never dropping under 90fps. In Assassin's creed Odyssey benchmarks my average is 57fps on 'Very High' settings, which is damn near equal to the 58fps average I'm seeing most people report on their 2080ti's in Odyssey benchmark. So in real world usage, I'm struggling to see how the 2080ti Black would really be noticeably better aside from benchmark bragging rights. It's definitely going to be louder and run hotter, like my original 2080 XC Ultra dual fan was. 
    post edited by sn0warmy - 2019/02/13 13:58:11
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:56:13 (permalink)
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    I would get the 2080 Ti Black for real performance gains over the 2080 FTW3 Ultra.


    I would guess that to be right.  A FE 2080ti is about 20% faster than the FE 2080, short of LN2, I don't think you would get that much gain out of the 2080.  That is why I've never understood spending a huge premium on cooling or binning on anything but the top tier card when you are trying to get every last ounce possible and there is no better card.
     
    Unless you are talking about the Titan... since you can get 2x 2080tis for the cost of 1 Titan and still have beer money left over...  



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 13:59:08 (permalink)
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    I guess where I'm struggling is with the current 2080 Hybrid, in BF5 on Ultra settings + 1440p, I'm getting around 100-120fps consistently, never dropping under 90fps. In Assassin's creed Odyssey benchmarks my average is 57fps on 'Very High' settings. So in real world usage, I'm struggling to see how the 2080ti Black would really be noticeably better aside from benchmark bragging rights. It's definitely going to be louder and run hotter, like my original 2080 XC Ultra dual fan was. 


    I would guess only louder if you overclock it and require the fans to spin up.  That is an advantage of going to the next tier.  With no OC, no higher power, etc, you can still get better performance.  And without the OC the fans shouldn't need to spin up much.
     
    Again, hypothetical since I don't know how loud the Black is, but I wouldn't think it would be loud.
     
    Besides, I understand noise, but who cares if it is 10C higher?  as long as it isn't thermal throttling on you.



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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 14:00:31 (permalink)
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    Baratak
     
    That is very pretty!!  nice setup install.
     
    I may be biased and curious without wanting to do the work/testing myself... but I say do it  :)
     
    If you want to see mine, click the mods rigs link <--


    markestamper
    I would get the 2080 Ti Black for real performance gains over the 2080 FTW3 Ultra.



    I guess where I'm struggling is with the current 2080 Hybrid, in BF5 on Ultra settings + 1440p, I'm getting around 100-120fps consistently, never dropping under 90fps. In Assassin's creed Odyssey benchmarks my average is 57fps on 'Very High' settings, which is damn near equal to the 58fps average I'm seeing most people report on their 2080ti's in Odyssey benchmark. So in real world usage, I'm struggling to see how the 2080ti Black would really be noticeably better aside from benchmark bragging rights. It's definitely going to be louder and run hotter, like my original 2080 XC Ultra dual fan was. 


    Makes dollar sense, and future proofing, for a buck fifty it is worth it.
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 17:33:36 (permalink)
    Well, my wife now thinks you are terrible influences and wishes I never joined this forum. 
     
    Benchmarks and impressions to follow...

     

     
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 17:47:11 (permalink)
    Nice rig....how’d you get the card so fast?
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 17:57:08 (permalink)
    Im so happy i made this post lol
    This will help me decide if I want to go with a 2080 ftw3 or the 2080ti black
    I do have to keep in mind that, I dont game in 4k, and dont see myself buying a decent 4k monitor in the near future.
    I game in 3440 x 1440p, so its a bit more demanding then the 2560 x 1440p.
    But I'm kinda thinking the 2080 ti, although only $120 more, will be overkill for me
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    Re: 1080 ti ftw3 vs 2080 ftw3 2019/02/13 18:16:32 (permalink)
    For me the reason I did not get a 2080 and did get the 2080 Ti was the number of CUDA Cores.
    Going from the 1080 Ti to a 2080 was a drop in the number of CUDA Cores.
     
    There was good interaction between Forum Members in this Thread and that is a Good Thing.



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