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2018/07/13 14:27:53 (permalink)
Hello Evga team,
 
My gtx 1080 ti ftw3 is capped at 63% Power limit = 170watt.
 
Running Superposition benchmark in normal and oc mode get limited at 63% powerlimit.
Instead of 10000 points in superposition benchmark i now only get 6000.
 
Limiting powerlimit further in afterburner more than 60% works, but opening it up to its full 127% does not work. Both bios’ have the same issue. 
I tried: another power supply, checking cables and connections and reinstalling GPU drivers, afterburener and evga x0c software. Here’s a screenshot of afterburner
 
My hardware: msi z270 gamimg m7 - i7-7700k - testet power supply corsair hx750i and ax1200i
 
 
BIOS

 
GPU-Z
  
 
Superposition Benchmark 4K - without OC
  
 
 
 
 
 
Is my GPU broken?
 
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 14:32:50 (permalink)
 
Here the screenshots - with oc settings

   
 
 
 
 
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 14:35:49 (permalink)
Without OC settings
 

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 14:47:49 (permalink)
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With Oc




 
If it won't go past those clocks, it's RMA time.

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 14:55:27 (permalink)
Have you flashed the bios yet?

https://forums.evga.com/m..aspx?m=2693145&fp=2
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 15:01:07 (permalink)
no i have not flashed the bios
On the ftw3 i have a dual bios with slave (power Limit 118%) and master (power Limit 127%)
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 15:41:17 (permalink)
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Is my GPU broken?

Looks like it. Have you tried to test the card in a different pci-e slot?
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 16:07:59 (permalink)
 

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Looks like it. Have you tried to test the card in a different pci-e slot?

I just tried, same problem :(


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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 16:23:53 (permalink)
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I just tried, same problem :(

I'd send it in if flashing the vbios listed in post #5 doesn't fix the problem.
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 16:40:20 (permalink)
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I'd send it in if flashing the vbios listed in post #5 doesn't fix the problem.



Ok, which bios is the right for my gtx 1080ti ftw3?
 
I have the P/N:11G-P4-6696-KR (EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING, 11G-P4-6696-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors & RGB LED G/P/M) and the P/N: 400-HY-5698-B1 (EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 HYBRID Waterblock Cooler, Cooling)

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 16:42:50 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Christian87 2018/07/13 16:54:36
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I'd send it in if flashing the vbios listed in post #5 doesn't fix the problem.



Ok, which bios is the right for my gtx 1080ti ftw3?
 
I have the P/N:11G-P4-6696-KR (EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING, 11G-P4-6696-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Technology - 9 Thermal Sensors & RGB LED G/P/M) and the P/N: 400-HY-5698-B1 (EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 HYBRID Waterblock Cooler, Cooling)



Follow the instructions listed in the OP of the thread GGTV-Jon linked. There are specific instructions for the 6696 card.
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 17:02:25 (permalink)
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Follow the instructions listed in the OP of the thread GGTV-Jon linked. There are specific instructions for the 6696 card.

Oh … the bios update simpel :) ... the new version is confirmed..

 
But i have the same Problem, power Limit ~60% :( :-( :-( :-(
 

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 17:42:10 (permalink)
I need a RMA or?
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:03:06 (permalink)
How come the fan speed is max at 18%?

Are you running both afterburner and pxoc at the same time?

GPU temp max is 36c.. max clocks 1975mhz.

You have a water block on it?
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:06:52 (permalink)
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I need a RMA or?


Looks like the vbios didn't update properly. Try flashing it again.
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:13:31 (permalink)
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Follow the instructions listed in the OP of the thread GGTV-Jon linked. There are specific instructions for the 6696 card.

Oh … the bios update simpel :) ... the new version is confirmed..

 
But i have the same Problem, power Limit ~60% :( :-( :-( :-(
 





Something is not right. Either it was affected by PXOC or having both MSI AB and PXOC both installed
 
Look at the zeroed out GPU clock versus the default clock in that GPU-Z screen grab - compare it to the one I just took of mine blow
 

 
 
I have been using AB instead of PXOC. With the bios you just updated too you should be able at least test the setting I have been using below. Mind you this is on a custom loop.
 

 
Look at the AB Settings and then look what the card was pulling shown in the HWiNFO64 window
 

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:14:51 (permalink)
On one screen shot he had pxoc running and the afterburner osd server.. forgot the name of that separate program that runs with afterburner.

Kind of strange he is having this issue cause in the first screen shot the card maxed out at like 2035mhz and hit 1.94v.. I would think in order to do that he would have to be using more then 63% power do maybe the monitor is off and reporting wrong.. maybe cause the other osd software is open.

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:16:31 (permalink)
Hehe detective work in progress

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:17:44 (permalink)
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in the first screen shot the card maxed out at like 2035mhz

Only spiked at the beginning and ending of the run.
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:21:53 (permalink)
The settings above are my conservative settings - after looking at the post above things are not very clear - GPU was at +52 and the memory +650. Compared to the +65gpu and +843memory when I set all radiator fans on high and am messing with Superposition
 
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:24:01 (permalink)
Oh yea, and if he is going to use PXOC OSD should be off!!
 
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 18:38:02 (permalink)
Looks like you may have had v-sync on while running superposition.
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 19:29:44 (permalink)
ok guys, thanks for the answers.
 
Only EVGA Precision XOC is installed, riva tuner statistik Server is uninstalled.
 
I flashed the slave BIOS again

 
After this i reboot he Computer and uninstalled the nvida driver with the "Display Driver Tool" and the evga tool, reboot and reinstall the nvida driver.

 
GPU-Z after BIOS Flash and driver reinstall.

 
 
 
Before valley benchmark is running (withou oc) -->

 
After 1 minute benchmark:

 
 
 

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 19:36:08 (permalink)
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ok guys, thanks for the answers.
 
Only EVGA Precision XOC is installed, riva tuner statistik Server is uninstalled.
 
 
 





Anyhow how you don't need any utility installed except GPU-Z. Its graphic utility will load the GPU enough to see if your clocks are correct.  I don't think I've ever seen a GPU recovery when it is locked at that clock speed.
 

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 19:36:29 (permalink)
Here the etst with OC:

 
Benchmark after 1 minute

 
 

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 19:40:08 (permalink)
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Here the etst with OC:

 
Benchmark after 1 minute

 
 


Okay? Nothing showing. If it is locked at the same clocks messing with sliders on the utilities just adds noise. You don't need them and should uninstall them for troubleshooting.
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 19:46:09 (permalink)
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 20:13:15 (permalink)
Still dont understand the fan speeds and temps. You never answered. Are you using a hybrid cooler or water block?

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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 20:41:28 (permalink)
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Still dont understand the fan speeds and temps. You never answered. Are you using a hybrid cooler or water block?

As his post #10 says, he is using the hybrid cooler. Sounds like he has the infamous FTW3 hybrid broken card power limit syndrome.

13 pages of the same symptoms:
https://forums.evga.com/1...-Problem-m2721450.aspx

https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2833907
After speaking to an EVGA rep he said it's an issue with part of the shroud shorting a component on the board and the card refusing to apply additional voltage after that point to avoid damage. He didn't specify what part it was that caused the short but did reply "no" when I asked if it was the loose grill on the back of the card, responding "it's part of the shroud itself." He sounded very casual about the fact that EVGA just can't tell when they ship a hybrid cooler with the proper electrical tape (preventing the issue) versus one without the tape and suggested calling back in and sending them "pictures of the new coolers" once on the phone with a support rep so they could "make sure it has the electrical tape in the right spot" prior to installation.

EVGA agreed to RMA the cards (at my shipping expense both ways) ...
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Re: GTX 1080 TI FTW3 - max power consum 63% 170 watt and only power limit 2018/07/13 20:53:54 (permalink)
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Still dont understand the fan speeds and temps. You never answered. Are you using a hybrid cooler or water block?

As his post #10 says, he is using the hybrid cooler. Sounds like he has the infamous FTW3 hybrid broken card power limit syndrome.

13 pages of the same symptoms:
https://forums.evga.com/1...-Problem-m2721450.aspx

https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2833907
After speaking to an EVGA rep he said it's an issue with part of the shroud shorting a component on the board and the card refusing to apply additional voltage after that point to avoid damage. He didn't specify what part it was that caused the short but did reply "no" when I asked if it was the loose grill on the back of the card, responding "it's part of the shroud itself." He sounded very casual about the fact that EVGA just can't tell when they ship a hybrid cooler with the proper electrical tape (preventing the issue) versus one without the tape and suggested calling back in and sending them "pictures of the new coolers" once on the phone with a support rep so they could "make sure it has the electrical tape in the right spot" prior to installation.

EVGA agreed to RMA the cards (at my shipping expense both ways) ...



Welp with that said.. yep. Remove and put the stock cooler back on and test

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