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Hi,
I am experiencing a weird issue with my GPU. After dissambly and putting on a new thermal paste I am not able to put on an aggresive fan curve. Precision X1 becomes unresponsive, and the whole system also becomes unresponsive.
Same thing happens with Afterburner
What I've tried is to
1. Reinstall drivers
2. Reinstall Precision X1
3. Uninstalled Presicion X1 and installed Afterburner (same issue there)
3. Reseat GPU
4. Reinstall Windows 10 Pro and installing Precision X1 again
If I keep Precision X1 with default settings the GPU and system is fine.
The problem occurs if I:
1. Change the fan curve
2. Apply ANY overclock (for example 1 MHz OC to memory or 1 MHz for core)
This card was effected by the hot VRMs and thermal pads where replaced some years ago, so it has the correct Vbios that change the fan curves.
Before this happened I ran my card with 90 MHz core OC and 500 MHz memory OC with good airflow in my case.
If I keep it with default settings the computer is fine. Any thoughts?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/26 16:10:19
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If you uninstall Precision X1 and then install Precision XOC, does it work better? It should.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/26 22:00:28
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Slide the VBIOS switch to the other position and then restart your PC..See if that might matter any.
The VBIOS switch is located near the two 8-pin PCIe supplemental power connectors.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/27 09:39:56
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If you uninstall Precision X1 and then install Precision XOC, does it work better? It should.
This didn't work. bob16314
Slide the VBIOS switch to the other position and then restart your PC..See if that might matter any.
The VBIOS switch is located near the two 8-pin PCIe supplemental power connectors.
This did not work either, unfortunately.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
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Grab DDU, PX1 and the latest NVIDIA Graphics Driver from the links below. Click the "Default" button in Precision X1, then close Precision X1. Then uninstall Precision X1 through Control Panel -> Programs and Features, clicking "Yes" at the "Do you want to remove Precision X1 setting files" prompt. Then uninstall the NVIDIA Graphics Driver and optional driver components with DDU while Windows is in Safe Mode, choosing the "Clean and restart (Highly recommended)" option..After restart, install the (Standard) NVIDIA Graphics Driver again. Then close all programs/apps running in the Taskbar/System Tray and install Precision X1 (Standalone) again, right-clicking the installer to "Run as administrator". Then restart your PC to restore programs/apps in the Taskbar/System Tray. See how that rolls.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/27 11:59:15
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Do your temps look good  same or betteraftr you changed the TIM ? How Do I Troubleshoot Precision X1 Issues? (quote) If you are experiencing any issues with Precision X1 there are multiple steps that can be taken to help resolve the issue. Sometimes, other programs can conflict with Precision X1 so the first thing to check for is that any other overclocking or customization software is closed before launching Precision X1. First and foremost, please ensure that you are running Precision X1 as an administrator. You can do this by right-clicking on the program icon and select "Run as Administrator." Due to security requirements with newer NVIDIA drivers, Precision X1 may have to be run as administrator at all times. But if issues remain after closing any extraneous programs, we would recommend trying the following steps: 1) Uninstall Precision X1 from the system and then delete the application directories from: "C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\EVGA_Co.,_Ltd" "C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\PX18" 2) Ensure that the Visual C++ Runtime Redistributable is installed from the link here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784. 3) Uninstall all drivers using Display Driver Uninstaller, linked here: https://www.wagnardsoft.com/DDU/download/DDU%20v18.0.0.9.exe and then reboot the system. 4) Install the latest NVIDIA drivers from the link here: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and then power off the system completely. It is recommended to unplug or shut off the power supply for about 2-3 minutes to ensure the graphics card has completely discharged. 5) Power on the system then reinstall the latest version of Precision X1 from the link here: https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/. Then launch the program as an administrator and check that any problems have been resolved.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/27 17:29:57
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If the issue only appeared after taking the card apart then it sounds like you may need to try and take it apart and reassemble it again.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/27 21:43:46
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If the issue only appeared after taking the card apart then it sounds like you may need to try and take it apart and reassemble it again.
+1 Was going to be my next suggestion..Weird how that can fix things sometimes.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 10:19:18
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Do your temps look good same or betteraftr you changed the TIM ?
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If you are experiencing any issues with Precision X1 there are multiple steps that can be taken to help resolve the issue. Sometimes, other programs can conflict with Precision X1 so the first thing to check for is that any other overclocking or customization software is closed before launching Precision X1.
First and foremost, please ensure that you are running Precision X1 as an administrator. You can do this by right-clicking on the program icon and select "Run as Administrator." Due to security requirements with newer NVIDIA drivers, Precision X1 may have to be run as administrator at all times.
But if issues remain after closing any extraneous programs, we would recommend trying the following steps:
1) Uninstall Precision X1 from the system and then delete the application directories from:
"C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\EVGA_Co.,_Ltd"
"C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\PX18"
2) Ensure that the Visual C++ Runtime Redistributable is installed from the link here: .
3) Uninstall all drivers using Display Driver Uninstaller, linked here: and then reboot the system.
4) Install the latest NVIDIA drivers from the link here: and then power off the system completely. It is recommended to unplug or shut off the power supply for about 2-3 minutes to ensure the graphics card has completely discharged.
5) Power on the system then reinstall the latest version of Precision X1 from the link here: . Then launch the program as an administrator and check that any problems have been resolved.
The temps are fine, 36 idle and 62 on load in video games (Escape from Tarkov, maybe not the most gpu demanding game but still) Only thing was that \Appdata\Local\PX18 did not exist on my computer, but I deleted the other folder Sajin
If the issue only appeared after taking the card apart then it sounds like you may need to try and take it apart and reassemble it again.
I will try this and see if it makes any difference.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 10:55:48
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Unfortunately this did not fix it either. I am able to adjust the power target/temp target and manually adjust the fan speed: 
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 10:56:49
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But if I apply anything here  The whole computer slows down and Precision X1 freezes up
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 11:05:49
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But if I apply anything here
The whole computer slows down and Precision X1 freezes up
Do you have any other programs running that monitor your system? This includes motherboard utilities as well. Like ASUS AI suite or whatever they call it now. If so, remove them all and only have Precision or Afterburner as the only program that can monitor or alter your GPU fan.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 11:06:16
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 11:14:16
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Do you have any other programs running that monitor your system? This includes motherboard utilities as well. Like ASUS AI suite or whatever they call it now. If so, remove them all and only have Precision or Afterburner as the only program that can monitor or alter your GPU fan. This is on a fresh reinstall of Windows 10 Pro, with only Precision X1 installed as a monitoring program. Other than this, Steam, Firefox, Spotify has been installed. All SSD's were formatted upon reinstall as well
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 11:21:10
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Do you have any other programs running that monitor your system? This includes motherboard utilities as well. Like ASUS AI suite or whatever they call it now. If so, remove them all and only have Precision or Afterburner as the only program that can monitor or alter your GPU fan.
This is on a fresh reinstall of Windows 10 Pro, with only Precision X1 installed as a monitoring program. Other than this, Steam, Firefox, Spotify has been installed. All SSD's were formatted upon reinstall as well
Well, this is a strange one. I mean, increasing the fan speed does increase the +12v power draw a bit, but that should not cause an issue. Does the same happen using MSI Afterburner alone versus Precision?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 11:30:55
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Do you have any other programs running that monitor your system? This includes motherboard utilities as well. Like ASUS AI suite or whatever they call it now. If so, remove them all and only have Precision or Afterburner as the only program that can monitor or alter your GPU fan.
This is on a fresh reinstall of Windows 10 Pro, with only Precision X1 installed as a monitoring program. Other than this, Steam, Firefox, Spotify has been installed. All SSD's were formatted upon reinstall as well
Well, this is a strange one. I mean, increasing the fan speed does increase the +12v power draw a bit, but that should not cause an issue. Does the same happen using MSI Afterburner alone versus Precision?
Yeah, same on both programs, with only one program installed ofcourse. But it's weird that I can adjust the fan speed manually vs a preset...
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 12:07:02
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Do you have any other programs running that monitor your system? This includes motherboard utilities as well. Like ASUS AI suite or whatever they call it now. If so, remove them all and only have Precision or Afterburner as the only program that can monitor or alter your GPU fan.
This is on a fresh reinstall of Windows 10 Pro, with only Precision X1 installed as a monitoring program. Other than this, Steam, Firefox, Spotify has been installed. All SSD's were formatted upon reinstall as well
Well, this is a strange one. I mean, increasing the fan speed does increase the +12v power draw a bit, but that should not cause an issue. Does the same happen using MSI Afterburner alone versus Precision?
Yeah, same on both programs, with only one program installed ofcourse. But it's weird that I can adjust the fan speed manually vs a preset...
When you select the preset, have Task Manager open to Processes, and see what process is taking up resources if the system is hanging or slowing down, it should show what is causing it here. There are other tools to check this more precisely.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 12:41:27
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It seems like a Driver or NVAPI issue. Have you tried a significantly older driver to see if the problem still occurs with that old driver?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 13:17:33
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It seems like a Driver or NVAPI issue. Have you tried a significantly older driver to see if the problem still occurs with that old driver?
I'm leaning in that direction too, or maybe some sort of issue trying to write to either the program registry or to the GPU.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 13:21:08
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System Restore can be your friend.
Not sure how that would help when the OP did a clean install and there is of course, no restore point. What I've tried is to1. Reinstall drivers2. Reinstall Precision X13. Uninstalled Presicion X1 and installed Afterburner (same issue there)3. Reseat GPU4. Reinstall Windows 10 Pro and installing Precision X1 again I read the OP as the first step. What I find really absurd is 12% of your posts being considered Blue Ribbon worthy. (I know, petty, but one reason I quit bothering spending as much time here... when copy and pastes of my T/S material get a BR and my time gets nothing. I'm almost surprised you didn't get on here.)
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 13:43:31
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It seems like a Driver or NVAPI issue. Have you tried a significantly older driver to see if the problem still occurs with that old driver?
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System Restore can be your friend.
Not sure how that would help when the OP did a clean install and there is of course, no restore point.
What I've tried is to
1. Reinstall drivers
2. Reinstall Precision X1
3. Uninstalled Presicion X1 and installed Afterburner (same issue there)
3. Reseat GPU
4. Reinstall Windows 10 Pro and installing Precision X1 again
I read the OP as the first step.
What I find really absurd is 12% of your posts being considered Blue Ribbon worthy.
(I know, petty, but one reason I quit bothering spending as much time here... when copy and pastes of my T/S material get a BR and my time gets nothing. I'm almost surprised you didn't get on here.)
Could of course be driver related. Windows automatically installs 420 or 430 something, and we are on 451.67 now, so that should hopefully be far enough back. But I also had the same issues on that driver. But I noticed I could create a custom fan curve, and apply and save this without experiencing any slowdown and freezes, which is super bizarre. Maybe there is some sort of controller on the GPU going bad?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/28 21:36:44
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If you're cool with it, take out the 1080 and use the 9900K iGPU graphics to reinstall/repair Windows again..Then install the 1080 and related driver/software later..Or you could create a drive partition and install a second copy of Windows there just for testing purposes.
But it does seem like more than just a coincidence that the problem occurred only after disassembling/reassembling the GPU..Something must have gone wrong with the 1080.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/29 00:47:49
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If you're cool with it, take out the 1080 and use the 9900K iGPU graphics to reinstall/repair Windows again..Then install the 1080 and related driver/software later..Or you could create a drive partition and install a second copy of Windows there just for testing purposes.
But it does seem like more than just a coincidence that the problem occurred only after disassembling/reassembling the GPU..Something must have gone wrong with the 1080.
Ah. Unfortunately I saw that my signature was wrong. I have a KF processor, so no iGPU unfortunately. When I disassembeled the GPU yesterday everything seemed fine, all capacitors seemed healthy and such, no burn marks for example, no loose parts. Also used anti-static wristband so no ESD should have happened I think the only thing left to do is to test the GPU on another system, which I will try later this week
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
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I think the only thing left to do is to test the GPU on another system, which I will try later this week
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/31 17:04:34
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Forgot to bring my GPU to work today, but I decided to install the latest BIOS on my computer, when I realized that my BIOS had somehow reset to some BIOS from 2018, eventhough I installed a newer BIOS late 2019. Precision X1 is now working again and I can apply overclock and fan curves as I like 
Specs i9 9900KF 5.1GHz 0 AVX offset ASUS MAXIMUS APEX XI Custom watercooling (360mm, 60mm thicc) EVGA GTX1080 FTW DT EVGA T2 1000W Platinum PSU 3200MHz G.Skill RGB B-die Samsung 970 Pro 512GB Samsung 860 EVO 2TB Crucial MX300 1TB
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW DT - Applying aggresive fan curve makes computer unresponsive
2020/07/31 17:26:47
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