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Like previous reference cards are you guys making hybrid AIO kit for 1080 founders edition? edit edited title.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/27 19:47:55
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That wouldn't be a founders edition, and there are already posts on FB and twitter showing the hybrid. The founders edition is only the nvidia cooler that isn't allowed to be changed. Any other blower cooler is just a manufacturers cooler, not a founder edition. EVGA will be using the updated hybrid cooler. https://m.facebook.com/st...x=0&id=82461182837That is where you can see it. Again, that is not a founders edition, it is a hybrid. Founders edition:  Hybrid: 
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/28 05:31:35
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/28 06:31:57
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The hybrid kit fit all 980, 980ti and Titan X, and since the PCB on this card is the same size, it will probably be available in a kit.
Next time, say you are looking for a kit and it will make more sense. Since they are releasing a card with the AIO attached, they will more than likely sell it as an accessory as well.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/28 06:43:15
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Yea i could have worded better, i edited my post. thanks for getting back.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/28 06:59:09
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From a previous thread, my understanding is the current Hybrid Kit is not compatible with the 1080 due to slight changes to the shroud configuration.
For the new kit to be beneficial, I believe EVGA will have it on their custom cards like the FTW ACX 3.0. -- From the clock and power phase point of view --
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/28 08:35:10
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Yea i noticed after i ordered founder cards the hydro uses custom PCB and ACX fan hoping this doesn't change the kit.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/28 19:26:05
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The fact the Hydro uses a custom PCB shouldn't matter. As we know the hybrid cooler fits the 1080 and they offer a face plate /shroud to transfer it.
I hope they see the demand is probably there for a DIY kit for Founders Edition users.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 07:07:56
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I 2nd the potential demand for an add-on DIY AIO kit for the Founders Edition Cards. That brings up a couple interesting points. 1) many of the EVGA AIB cards now available for pre-order should be able to be modified with such an AIO/hybrid kit since they use the same card (I believe) (not necessarily true for cards with modified electrical features & size coming in the next wave) 2) Consider the announced EVGA hybrid. It is shown with 2x8pin conectors which implies it is NOT the same as the reference card. 3) additional power requirements for a DIY AIO hybrid? Pulling the power for the pump from the card may inhibit (cough) the OC potential for such a configuration. So, pulling the power for the pump from another power source might be desirable; maybe an unused floppy disk MOLEX would be appropriate?
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 07:10:09
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Like Insert_username_here i got this responce on reddit from another user Someone asked this same question last night during the EVGA stream. EVGA answered they will offer two separate Hybrids: One diy Hybrid kit for the reference PCB (just like the previous reference cards), and the custom PCB retail Hybrid. I tried asking last night on another live stream i forgot is username but told me was looking into it and would get back to me but i had to eventually leave the livestream i didn't get answer :(
post edited by demo23019 - 2016/05/29 07:21:46
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 08:00:45
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Gamers Nexus showed that if you put a water cooler on a Reference PCB you dont gain many frames extra, of course it does cool the card alot. But because the reference board is power limited you cant go past 120%
This is why the Hybrid is on a redesigned PCB board with more phases. Because when you can cool the card alot it allows you to push overclocks more. So they wont be limited to 120% power limit.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 08:13:17
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Even with current 2.1ghz limit founders require 80-100 fanspeed the AIO is still perfect regardless of the limit and that's not to say a custom BIOS could push even more.
All i want is to keep cool ill be running is sli with gsync i don't need to really push these cards but would like to keep very cool and quite. I don't need them now but would be nice to know if they will be available at some point.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 08:36:57
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It would probably cost less to buy a hybrid then to pay 100 dollars more for a Founders Edition and then put a after market AIO on it.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 09:48:16
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Avolate
It would probably cost less to buy a hybrid then to pay 100 dollars more for a Founders Edition and then put a after market AIO on it.
good point... let me sit on my hands&wallet for a few days rather than waving them around in the air...  EVGA really should have made their plans clearer before they did. Or I should have had more restraint. Choose one.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 10:43:10
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Gamers Nexus showed that if you put a water cooler on a Reference PCB you dont gain many frames extra
You are misquoting /misunderstanding. Of course it wouldn't get you extra fps. Why would it. But the peak temperature would be lower allowing for a higher, stable overclock. Avolate
It would probably cost less to buy a hybrid then to pay 100 dollars more for a Founders Edition and then put a after market AIO on it.
Ya think? /s Irrelevant.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 11:47:52
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The hybrid kit fit all 980, 980ti and Titan X, and since the PCB on this card is the same size, it will probably be available in a kit.
Next time, say you are looking for a kit and it will make more sense. Since they are releasing a card with the AIO attached, they will more than likely sell it as an accessory as well.
Is the 1080 hybrid confirmed to be the same dimensions as the 980? I'm having questions about fitment in a ncase m1. Some believe the pcb is custom, which would suggest it's not the same as the 980.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 13:37:14
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Why waste 100 bucks to order the founder edition card?
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 13:44:19
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Why waste 100 bucks to order the founder edition card?
:O is it $100 more! I had no idea.. Stick to the topic and don't turn it into a unsolicited debate or exchange of opinions. Heck it's not even necessary to reply if you don't have the answer to the question.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 14:09:55
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Why waste 100 bucks to order the founder edition card?
Because i sold my 980s and currently have no videocards plus i run SLI so want exhaust the AIO would be a later upgrade. And i figured AIO kit inevitable till i noticed the hybrid AFTER i already ordered my cards. Like already said current design of the AIO kits doesn't seem to need any changing other than shroud.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/29 16:58:15
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Avolate
Gamers Nexus showed that if you put a water cooler on a Reference PCB you dont gain many frames extra
You are misquoting /misunderstanding. Of course it wouldn't get you extra fps. Why would it. But the peak temperature would be lower allowing for a higher, stable overclock.
Its not that much higher of a clock because its a reference board. He tried to push the frequency as far as he could with the AIO but it didnt get him alot more frames. Yea it didnt temp throttle so that means it was 'stable' and you can also get a 'stable' overclock when you turn the fan speed up on the blower cooler. It throttles at 82 unless you raise it to 92.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/31 13:03:17
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No news is bad news also noticed $600 evga refrence is the new design with new fan so im wondering even more if FE will get a kit or they going to focus on the $600 model or both.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/31 13:33:40
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Avolate
Gamers Nexus showed that if you put a water cooler on a Reference PCB you dont gain many frames extra, of course it does cool the card alot. But because the reference board is power limited you cant go past 120%
This is why the Hybrid is on a redesigned PCB board with more phases. Because when you can cool the card alot it allows you to push overclocks more. So they wont be limited to 120% power limit.
More power phases doesn't mean more power. The GTX 1080 Hybrid card does have 2x 8pin PCIe power connections, so that will allow it to pull more power and increase overclocking potential. From what is coming out of computex it looks like the GTX 1080 Hybrid is essentially an FTW board with an Asetek CLC. -PopinFRESH
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/05/31 15:12:02
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And it and others won't fit in very popular itx cases so what a waste.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 19:30:31
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Yea so i put in my cards and yea no I don't recommend FE for SLI at all. Even with switch 810 with great airflow top cards hitting 85c with fan up to 85% and bottom cards like 12 degree lower. My ACX in SLI only had 5 degree difference. already ready sold one and in process of selling the other these FE are horrible IMO not waiting for answer anymore about a kit For $700 for FE plus kit might as well wait and get hybrid when its released. Or pay 600 for EVGA reference and get kit But yea these 1080 are crazy fast even one fine for 1440/144hz gsync also reference are surprising very quite but 85 % max recommend unless you use headphone.  EDIT Sorry guys it was my error and fixed problem read post #40
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 19:52:14
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Yea so i put in my cards and yea no I don't recommend FE for SLI at all. Even with switch 810 with great airflow top cards hitting 85c with fan up to 85% and bottom cards like 12 degree lower.
My ACX in SLI only had 5 degree difference. already ready sold one and in process of selling the other these FE are horrible IMO not waiting for answer anymore about a kit
For $700 for FE plus kit might as well wait and get hybrid when its released.
Or pay 600 for EVGA reference and get kit
But yea these 1080 are crazy fast even one fine for 1440/144hz gsync also reference are surprising very quite but 85 % max recommend unless you use headphone.
I am currently running Sli with 2 Evga 1080 FE and my temps never even reach 75C at full load with fan at 72%. I even got my Gpu and memory overclocked.
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 20:03:40
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I wonder why there is such a temperature variance... I am ok with FE running 70-75C under load. That in SLI would be acceptable. But definitely not 85C... I have one FE at the moment and have been eyeing a second one. I have a FTW on pre-order but don't think I will get past the new EVGA look. One of the main reasons why I prefer the FE; aesthetics. If I knew when the hybrid was releasing I'd just go that route. They really do make it hard to plan a build...
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 20:07:03
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not sure i even swapped them also one cant even hit 1.9 stable other can do 2 but even with crank voltage not 100 percent stable in firestrike. think they are lower asic from bad OC and higher temps but cant tell GPUz doesn't support
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 20:22:44
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not sure i even swapped them also one cant even hit 1.9 stable other can do 2 but even with crank voltage not 100 percent stable in firestrike. think they are lower asic from bad OC and higher temps but cant tell GPUz doesn't support
Now that sucks. I would be disappointed if I couldn't hit a stable 1.9. I have managed 2.03-2.04 in Witcher 3 ultra settings (aa off) at 74C (1:1 fan). I think if I could manage that OC with temps in the 50-60 C I would be content for a long while. What SLI set up are you looking to next?
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 20:24:11
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1080 hybrid those fans behind gpus in my case pic perfect to hold both rads
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Re: Founders edition hybrid cooler
2016/06/01 20:26:28
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I hear ya. I cannot wait for the release date.
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