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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 16:28:28 (permalink)
The stats have leveled out since the points dump as of the 6pm Central update.
Curecoin is right there with us on the 24hr average +/- 200k.
But they are currently tracking for more points this week.

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 17:45:16 (permalink)
I just checked and we're out pacing them on the weekly total by about 100 Million points  so far. 673,101,926 for us vs 573,741,483 for them as of the latest EOC update.
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 17:52:12 (permalink)
Where are you getting this?
I dont see that at all.....
Don't mean to call out the stats pimp, just want the info.

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 17:57:15 (permalink)
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Cool GTX your new hardware has pushed team EVGA back to number one in production. We lost to Curecoin yesterday.


 
The previously removed two displaced GPUs back online late today
 
Last couple of days were only the 4 Titan X cards; two from each generation.
 
Now the 1080 FE and 980 SC are back Folding in a X58 Rig (estimate 1M- 1.5M PPD)
 
Not helping getting a lot of server not found errors the last two days --- Windows 10 issue ?
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 18:02:29 (permalink)
Don't think it's a win 10 thing. I've been getting work.

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 18:06:07 (permalink)
I get work mostly, then 1 hour of server not found, then back to Folding  - as to not derail --> I may make a separate thread if it keeps happening.
 
I'll try to keep a closer eye on it; never happens while I'm actually monitoring it, come back hours later to see the errors
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 19:55:40 (permalink)
Pssssshhhh, the day I get PO'd at being called out for the numbers is a long way away - Go http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=111065 and check out the column marked 'Points Week'
 
The averages are also way off from what you were also pointing out. If you follow the actual dailys, you'll see that EOC's averages have FINALLY fallen back into place instead of being grossly over inflated because of the server outage and following MASSIVE dump.
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 19:59:33 (permalink)
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Pssssshhhh, the day I get PO'd at being called out for the numbers is a long way away - Go http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=111065 and check out the column marked 'Points Week'
 
The averages are also way off from what you were also pointing out. If you follow the actual dailys, you'll see that EOC's averages have FINALLY fallen back into place instead of being grossly over inflated because of the server outage and following MASSIVE dump.
 
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Hmm, that looks different than when I looked, I was sorting the teams list by 24hr average and looked at points for the week.

The fact that the averages are finally back to normal is what I was pointing out, no more inflation from the points dump.

Edit: I think the difference I am seeing is because on the 9pm update, curecoin made a few more million than us.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/23 21:05:52 (permalink)
The numbers keep changing around on us, but in the end it's all good. We're ultimately still on top of the heap for a while and when another 800 lb gorilla shows up, it's time for us to get our game face on and defend our slot on the top of the heap! This pimp has spent far to long busting his hump helping the team get and hold #1. I sure as heck won't let go without letting a few pimp hands fly! ;-)
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 04:27:19 (permalink)
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I just checked and we're out pacing them on the weekly total by about 100 Million points  so far. 673,101,926 for us vs 573,741,483 for them as of the latest EOC update.
 
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I think there is a little confusion going on here, Drougnor.
Your numbers were from our Team vs Barnacules Nerdgasm, while Un4givn85 was talking about Curecoin (they had 677,243,037 points at that time and still have a small lead in the last week).


 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 09:03:51 (permalink)
Ooooooohhhh. Thanks for pointing that out!  I was over tired and shouldn't have been trying to do things with numbers. *laughs* My bad, folks, my bad.

Freshly reloading the chart and seeing the Curecoin team light up red as a 'danger' is kind of exciting. They've got a HECK of a long lead to chew up, but we've got someone bringing the fight to us!
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 09:24:13 (permalink)
i think once CoolGTXs averages level out from having 6 GPUs folding, they wont be as much of a "threat" lol

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 14:38:08 (permalink)
Just another thought from the other side of the fence. I've also noticed what appears to be a drop in active users every time the stat servers go on vacation. I'm not sure how much of that is the stat servers not being caught up with things when they get revived, or how many are leaving when they see Zero credits for the day's work on a web page when the stat servers are down. So retention of users may be a rather interesting one for many teams that don't have a 'dedicated' core of members keeping things going.
 
I had done crunching for another project years ago, and a combination of flaky servers and brand new computer parts exploding convinced me it was not worth the electricity and effort to keep things going. I am retired and am not made of money, so I can not afford to keep replacing things that breaks for a project that can't keep the 'WU' flow going, lol.

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 15:35:04 (permalink)
Is Team Barnacules Nerdgasm Providing you and your Team Mates up to $10.00 EVGA Bucks a Month?
Over on But if you come over to Our Team and Leave the Dark Side you will receive EVGA Bucks!
Or the Support Level that Our Team Provides to it's Team Members?
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 16:01:21 (permalink)
Not to my knowledge, not that it maters much to me. The ketch is the "Up to" in that, implying that it is less if you do not have the 3-phase power to feed a VCA cluster, and if you had a VCA cluster that would not be of any significance in any case.  We do not crunch for BOINC or FAH for the 'benefits' from the effort of keeping the computers running, we do it because we are willing to support the scientist's work.
 
I only dropped by to toss in the thought about active users vs the stat servers going on vacation. And I need to do something about the GTX960 watt-hog in my DAW, that may be covered in another thread somewhere (how to get the GTX960 under 100 watts TDP when doing Iray stuff).
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 16:06:03 (permalink)
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Not to my knowledge, not that it maters much to me. The ketch is the "Up to" in that, implying that it is less if you do not have the 3-phase power to feed a VCA cluster, and if you had a VCA cluster that would not be of any significance in any case.  We do not crunch for BOINC or FAH for the 'benefits' from the effort of keeping the computers running, we do it because we are willing to support the scientist's work.
 
I only dropped by to toss in the thought about active users vs the stat servers going on vacation. And I need to do something about the GTX960 watt-hog in my DAW, that may be covered in another thread somewhere (how to get the GTX960 under 100 watts TDP when doing Iray stuff).


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 16:19:17 (permalink)
Ah, so that did change from years past. I will say that minimum per month is well beyond the capabilities of my peasant-affordable computer that I must use for other things, lol.
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/24 16:24:21 (permalink)
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Ah, so that did change from years past. I will say that minimum per month is well beyond the capabilities of my peasant-affordable computer that I must use for other things, lol.


No, is what really changed was newer Graphics Cards.
Those who now have a new Pascal Graphics Card can really poor out the PPD as compared to Graphics Cards of the Past.
You do not only help find a cure you also earn to help offset your cost of newer hardware from EVGA.
And "we do it because we are willing to support the scientist's work." who supports you, EVGA.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/27 06:31:09 (permalink)
So , they are now down to 35% retention and many users haven't even gotten their first electric bill.
As I've mentioned before...there is absolutely no leadership and no direction for the project.
Dr. Pande is MIA, working on his investments in cloud computing and managing a high stakes venture capital fund.
 
While you can get millions of people to try almost anything..(old enough to remember pet rocks), in order to retain, you have to show people they are actually achieving something.
 
The lack of communication and lack of leadership will continue to see the project tank.
 
It is just a fact. I know everyone here wishes otherwise, but unless you DEMAND change, we will just see the continuous repetition of history. 
 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/27 06:39:44 (permalink)
Irregardless of communication/leadership issues, I still believe that this is proving beneficial to someone, somewhere and will keep on doing it.  Got a GTX 1060 that I'm going to toss in the rig this weekend and hopefully starting next week, that will provide a boost to the team here.


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/27 06:51:39 (permalink)
Yes, there are always going to be a core of really dedicated people who will donate regardless.
My team has one guy that has donated 3.75 billion points on home servers (not gpu)
However, that level of dedication and persistence is the exception and not the rule.
 
I don't question if the donations are or will be useful.
 
I question how the project squanders the good will and initiative of people like Barnacules Nerdgasm.
 
I think the lack of stewardship borders on fraud.
 
But, you don't need to take my view as fact.
just watch the retention rate of this new team drop over the coming months and you will see what I mean.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/27 07:32:01 (permalink)
their retention may have dropped to 35% but their PPD has only dropped to ~70% of their peak. this means that yes there were a TON of people that just did 1-10 units over a couple days and stopped but it also means that those who are actually doing real work are sticking around, at least for now.


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production 2016/09/27 07:35:53 (permalink)
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their retention may have dropped to 35% but their PPD has only dropped to ~70% of their peak. this means that yes there were a TON of people that just did 1-10 units over a couple days and stopped but it also means that those who are actually doing real work are sticking around, at least for now.


Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production because you keep moving back over to Curecoin
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production 2016/09/27 08:57:11 (permalink)
my 3mill ppd didn't make a difference the last 2 days, we still lost to them. so back to making CURE so i can get funds to donate to the timezone challenge, if they can accept btc that is.


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production 2016/09/27 08:59:20 (permalink)
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my 3mill ppd didn't make a difference the last 2 days, we still lost to them. so back to making CURE so i can get funds to donate to the timezone challenge, if they can accept btc that is.


Maybe not, but add your change and add 100 more and it makes a difference.
But I guess you are correct in the long run your score makes no real difference.
 

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/27 16:57:08 (permalink)
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their retention may have dropped to 35% but their PPD has only dropped to ~70% of their peak. this means that yes there were a TON of people that just did 1-10 units over a couple days and stopped but it also means that those who are actually doing real work are sticking around, at least for now.


lol. yea, the indication to me was when a pathetic GT740 got into the top one third of the list, before I got a GTX960. I don't even have an i7 in the mix, that is to rich for my blood (FX8350 is all I got).  The number of cards that out fold a GT740 has got to be insane, not that the GTX960 is much to brag about these days (except in Iray, the GTX960 at least has the minimum 4GB on the card for that unlike the 3GB GTX 1050, errr 3GB wannabe GTX1060), lol.

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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/27 18:33:47 (permalink)
I'd hoped that they'd stick with it, every unit folded helps. I remember starting on a 8800gtx. Problem is most people logoff or turn their systems off when they're done. It's only the diehards that rock it overnight and 24/7 in some cases. Even I had to turn my system off at times due to heat and power bills from time to time.


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/28 06:47:29 (permalink)
Not sure whether the lead has truly shrunk a bit today, or whether it will take a bit still for other folders to come online, but our projected date to overtake curecoin is now 2033 (whereas yesterday, I could swear it said 2042)


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/28 10:57:47 (permalink)
btc has already recently crashed, when bitfinex was hacked out of nearly 120,000 BTC, nearly 66 million USD, 2 months ago.


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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue 2016/09/28 12:42:07 (permalink)
As a team we tend to have lower production toward the end of the month - it will spike again on Oct 1st and we'll be back ahead on the daily.  For the month of Sept we outproduced them by a good amount, but worth keeping an eye on as CureCoin's daily output is increasing

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