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2025/01/17 07:52:56 (permalink)
Recently built a new PC and although i had some hiccups in the beginning with 2 fake SSDs...I sorted that out and the PC seemed to be fine but lately it has been freezing in simple internet browsing. I had a small undervolt and thought this was the culprit but reverted back to factory settings. I am thinking of popping in the windows 11 usb to repair windows? I do play some games and no issues playing... Recently updated the bios to 0830 which is the most recent but still same issues... The cpu runs cool.... never hits above 38c when gaming and browsing it hovers around 32c.
 
The issues are when freezing, the computer just locks up and the screen is frozen, the mouse cursor is still and so is everything else. No codes or numbers on the MB. I need to reset the PC to gain access. Writing this, it locked up once, had to reset it.....lol
 
I forgot to mention I am using Logitech 915TLK keyboard and 902 mouse. When it does lock up, I will try and tinker with those and use them using a cable to see if I lose Bluetooth connectivity
 
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AMD 9800x3d
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post edited by jiannu - 2025/01/17 09:29:38

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 09:40:04 (permalink)
Your saying Windows locks up & never recovers?   How long have you waited? 
 
Are you using the latest version of the Corsair iCue software?


There is a program called  - WhoCrashed - maybe that can help you
 
W11 up to date ? .... W11 not trying to update? - that would could system to be unresponsive
 
What browsers have you tried?
 
Hardware acceleration turned off or on in your browser?

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 09:45:06 (permalink)
Let's remove the fact that I thought it was Bluetooth connection because I remember going on YouTube and my cursor is pointed on a small box highlighting a video and hearing sound then I hear no sound...that is where I know it locked up.....windows is up to date.... will have to check for browser having hardware acceleration ON. Using factory windows Edge.

Will try your suggestion on WhoCrashed

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 11:59:59 (permalink)
Sounds like a power state issue. Disable all power saving features to see if that fixes the issue.
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 12:14:57 (permalink)
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Sounds like a power state issue. Disable all power saving features to see if that fixes the issue.
will check but last time I did, I'm sure I clicked performance settings

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 12:23:56 (permalink)
I'm not just talking about windows power settings. You'll need to disable all power saving features inside the bios as well.
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 14:11:28 (permalink)
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I'm not just talking about windows power settings. You'll need to disable all power saving features inside the bios as well.

I checked the bios but I don't think i found it...

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 16:24:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2025/01/18 10:41:57
Go into Control Panel > Power Options > High Performance (your power plan may vary, whichever is active) > Change Plan Settings > Change Advanced Power Settings.
 
Set every "power saver" feature to 0. This includes Turn off hard disk after, Sleep after, Hibernate, etc.
 
Once that's done open command prompt as an administrator and run DISM: dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
 
This will check in with Microsoft for anything amiss with your Windows files and automatically download/install them.



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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/17 16:32:41 (permalink)
Thank u.....

In Control Panel, it had turn off hard disks after 20 min...I changed it to never and tweeked a few other options....m hopefully this solves the issue

AMD 5800x------------------98003DX
Corsair H150i---------------H170i Elite LCD
Asus Dark x570------------x870 tuff wifi plus
2x16GB Corsair DDR4-----2x32GB 6000 DDR5
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Asus RTX 4090 -----------SAME
SoundBlaster Zri----------Sound blaster AE-5plus
Corsair 1200i-------------1500i modular digital
Corsair 540 air------------x7000RGB
Windows 11 Pro 64 ------SAME
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/18 07:29:24 (permalink)
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Go into Control Panel > Power Options > High Performance (your power plan may vary, whichever is active) > Change Plan Settings > Change Advanced Power Settings.
 
Set every "power saver" feature to 0. This includes Turn off hard disk after, Sleep after, Hibernate, etc.
 
Once that's done open command prompt as an administrator and run DISM: dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
 
This will check in with Microsoft for anything amiss with your Windows files and automatically download/install them.


So I thought this solved my issue but it didn't. I turned on the PC this morning and went to the washroom, less than 3min it froze.
 
Will be leaning towards the OS now to see if there is something I can do... I did try your Run option but I could not get it to run..
 
I got a message saying my PC does NOT have an app to run this..
 
EDIT; I got it to run.... I typed it into RUN command box that is why it wasn't working. So it did its thing and went to 62.3% and it stopped. the cursor is still blinking but not continuing...
OH NEVER MIND...it just went to 100% I got a message restore 100%
 
Crossing my fingers that this solved the issue.
 
post edited by jiannu - 2025/01/18 07:40:43

AMD 5800x------------------98003DX
Corsair H150i---------------H170i Elite LCD
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2x16GB Corsair DDR4-----2x32GB 6000 DDR5
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 2x Western Digital Nas 4Tb-4tb Samsung evo
Asus RTX 4090 -----------SAME
SoundBlaster Zri----------Sound blaster AE-5plus
Corsair 1200i-------------1500i modular digital
Corsair 540 air------------x7000RGB
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/18 10:49:23 (permalink)
if it is still happening after all the suggestions above are completed
 
---> next, unplug your PC & confirm every component is fully seated & properly locked in to position;  RAM, GPU & both ends of power cables from PSU to hardware
 
Make sure Fast Boot is OFF, in MB BIOS settings .... you want MB to look for hardware at each boot & assign resources
 
Turn OFF the Windows Fast Startup "feature" ... you want Windows to look for new hardware, new drivers & allocate resources accordingly
 
(Otherwise Windows just starts from a saved file, of the last successful startup; but as your PC is not stable - that is not a good thing when system stability is an issue)

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/18 11:22:37 (permalink)
There are a few settings I see in your bios that should be set as follows...

Max Power Saving: Disabled
Global C-State Control: Disabled
DF Cstates: Disabled
SoC/Uncore OC Mode: Enabled

See what that does for you.
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/19 12:33:46 (permalink)
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There are a few settings I see in your bios that should be set as follows...

Max Power Saving: Disabled
Global C-State Control: Disabled
DF Cstates: Disabled
SoC/Uncore OC Mode: Enabled

See what that does for you.

Will try that, Thank u!
 
I did download the app WHOCRASHED and this is the message i got....
 
'A device object has been blocking an IRP for too long a time. This is likely caused by a hardware problem, but there is a possibility that this is caused by a misbehaving driver.
This bugcheck indicates that a timeout has occurred. This may be caused by a hardware failure such as a thermal issue or a bug in a driver for a hardware device.
Read this article on thermal issues
A full memory dump will likely provide more useful information on the cause of this particular bug check.'

DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE
 
Quick google says a driver issue... This oddly only happens when browsing the net.....no freezing while playing games.

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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/19 21:02:44 (permalink)
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Your saying Windows locks up & never recovers?   How long have you waited? 
 
Are you using the latest version of the Corsair iCue software?
 
Hardware acceleration turned off or on in your browser?




 
So my ICue was out of date.... updated it and had an error message saying that iCue service has failed to start... Had to enable it or set it to AUTOMATIC in app settings... Keeping my fingers crossed

AMD 5800x------------------98003DX
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Asus RTX 4090 -----------SAME
SoundBlaster Zri----------Sound blaster AE-5plus
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/20 06:55:59 (permalink)
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Your saying Windows locks up & never recovers?   How long have you waited? 
 
Are you using the latest version of the Corsair iCue software?
 
Hardware acceleration turned off or on in your browser?




 
So my ICue was out of date.... updated it and had an error message saying that iCue service has failed to start... Had to enable it or set it to AUTOMATIC in app settings... Keeping my fingers crossed


FWIW...You don't have to have ICue load at startup to keep your fans & pump settings as it's stored in memory, but you do need to have the "Corsair Services" process set to Automatic in the services.msc settings.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/20 06:57:14 (permalink)
Update;

Issues still un resolved.

Went on to my pc this morning, within less than 10min of browsing, it froze.

AMD 5800x------------------98003DX
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Corsair 1200i-------------1500i modular digital
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/20 07:33:25 (permalink)
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Your saying Windows locks up & never recovers?   How long have you waited?
 
What browsers have you tried?
 
Hardware acceleration turned off or on in your browser?




 
Using Windows edge... In settings under performance there was no tab for hardware acceleration but some settings for video and I changed it to graphic card driver when it was set to super resolution. ???

AMD 5800x------------------98003DX
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Asus RTX 4090 -----------SAME
SoundBlaster Zri----------Sound blaster AE-5plus
Corsair 1200i-------------1500i modular digital
Corsair 540 air------------x7000RGB
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/20 08:54:25 (permalink)
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Update;

Issues still un resolved.

Went on to my pc this morning, within less than 10min of browsing, it froze.

Since the issue does not occur while gaming I’m going to suggest increasing the voltages on your cpu/cpu imc/ram until you reach stability at idle conditions.
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/20 20:45:01 (permalink)
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Since the issue does not occur while gaming I’m going to suggest increasing the voltages on your cpu/cpu imc/ram until you reach stability at idle conditions.



I had a very slight undervolt in which i resorted back to factory settings....kinda new to this overclocking and undervolting thing.... 
 
Which settings do u recommend? Should i enable PBO? AMD overclocking, then add the voltages? Asus X870 wifi Plus

AMD 5800x------------------98003DX
Corsair H150i---------------H170i Elite LCD
Asus Dark x570------------x870 tuff wifi plus
2x16GB Corsair DDR4-----2x32GB 6000 DDR5
4x1 TB Samsung EvO Ssd-2x4TB 990pro1x4tb
 2x Western Digital Nas 4Tb-4tb Samsung evo
Asus RTX 4090 -----------SAME
SoundBlaster Zri----------Sound blaster AE-5plus
Corsair 1200i-------------1500i modular digital
Corsair 540 air------------x7000RGB
Windows 11 Pro 64 ------SAME
49Nano85una 4k 120Hz-LG C4 48 4k 144Hz
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Re: New build keeps freezing 2025/01/20 21:27:08 (permalink)
Before we try increasing voltages I need you to answer some questions about your ram... 
 
Have you been running with xmp enabled or disabled? If enabled, I would try with xmp disabled, but manually set to 5600 MHz instead of 6000 MHz with timings & voltages set to what your ram sticks say on the side of the modules first to see if that helps.
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