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2020/11/29 13:48:25 (permalink)
I purchased a FTW3 3070 from newegg a couple weeks ago for $609.99 I immediately registered it and went through the steps to find out the final charge to step up to the FTW3 3080 which is $809.99
I noticed that the sales tax was on the DIFFERENCE of the cards which is $200, but when I check again on the price this week I noticed the sales tax went up to the TOTAL price of the 3080...thats about a $50 difference, what's up EVGA? does anyone have any info on this change? It would make sense to only pay the sales tax on the difference of cards...plz help, this is the only thing that is stopping me from stepping up, thx
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/29 13:58:05 (permalink)
Per https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/ 
 
"Sales tax is required for orders shipping into states where EVGA has or may have nexus for state tax purposes under applicable laws. Additionally, sales tax may be required under various state laws, which are in effect at the time of purchase. If required, you will be charged the applicable sales tax according to your area's tax rate. The sales tax is calculated based on the price of the new product you wish to Step-Up to."
 
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/29 15:24:20 (permalink)
You would need to contact support. When you get to step two, there will be a final verification of all prices and the totals may change, but contacting support would get you an answer quicker.
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/29 15:50:16 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2020/11/30 10:57:57
Hi PaulFromAZ,
 
EVGA did update the Step Up system for the sales to be charged on MSRP of the product.  It is correct, if the sales tax was based on the full price of the new GPU.
 
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 10:43:51 (permalink)
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Hi PaulFromAZ,
 
EVGA did update the Step Up system for the sales to be charged on MSRP of the product.  It is correct, if the sales tax was based on the full price of the new GPU.
 
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If the transaction is $200, how are you taxing $809.99?
 
 


 
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 10:55:03 (permalink)
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Hi PaulFromAZ,
 
EVGA did update the Step Up system for the sales to be charged on MSRP of the product.  It is correct, if the sales tax was based on the full price of the new GPU.
 
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If the transaction is $200, how are you taxing $809.99?
 
 


It is kind of silly, huh?
You paid sales tax on the full price of the first card, you stepped up to the second card paying for the difference in price between the two, and then you pay sales tax for the full price of the second card too?  It's probably some legal stupidity which they are afraid to fight.

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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 10:55:22 (permalink)
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Hi PaulFromAZ,
 
EVGA did update the Step Up system for the sales to be charged on MSRP of the product.  It is correct, if the sales tax was based on the full price of the new GPU.
 
Regards,
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If the transaction is $200, how are you taxing $809.99?
 
 




Because "sales tax" is actually "sales and use tax".  You used the $610 item and paid tax on it.  You will now use a new $810 item and pay tax on that.  Before you bring up vehicles, they have specific legislated exemptions for trade-ins.  Consumer electronics do not have such exemptions.  

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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:00:47 (permalink)
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Hi PaulFromAZ,
 
EVGA did update the Step Up system for the sales to be charged on MSRP of the product.  It is correct, if the sales tax was based on the full price of the new GPU.
 
Regards,
Peter N





 
If the transaction is $200, how are you taxing $809.99?
 
 




Because "sales tax" is actually "sales and use tax".  You used the $610 item and paid tax on it.  You will now use a new $810 item and pay tax on that.  Before you bring up vehicles, they have specific legislated exemptions for trade-ins.  Consumer electronics do not have such exemptions.  


Ok, fine.
Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the card back from him through the step-up process?  If not, EVGA should foot his sales tax bill.  Legally, maybe EVGA does have to ensure that the full sales tax is paid each time, but its EVGA's choice who should foot the bill, right?  EVGA is the one who forwards the sales tax to the applicable state.  It's EVGA's choice where those funds come from.
These laws are silly.  When EVGA sells the card it received from step-up as a B-stock item, the buyer has to pay sales tax for it again.  How many times does the same card create revenue for a state?

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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:02:44 (permalink)
Step-UP
 
Your "buying the New GPU" @ Retail +Tax
 
EVGA is offering you the "value you Paid" (less tax & shipping) as a Promotional Discount on the NEW GPU purchase (Trade in value)


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"Sales tax is required for orders shipping into states where EVGA has or may have nexus for state tax purposes under applicable laws. Additionally, sales tax may be required under various state laws, which are in effect at the time of purchase. If required, you will be charged the applicable sales tax according to your area's tax rate. The sales tax is calculated based on the price of the new product you wish to Step-Up to."

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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:11:29 (permalink)
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Hi PaulFromAZ,
 
EVGA did update the Step Up system for the sales to be charged on MSRP of the product.  It is correct, if the sales tax was based on the full price of the new GPU.
 
Regards,
Peter N





 
If the transaction is $200, how are you taxing $809.99?
 
 




Because "sales tax" is actually "sales and use tax".  You used the $610 item and paid tax on it.  You will now use a new $810 item and pay tax on that.  Before you bring up vehicles, they have specific legislated exemptions for trade-ins.  Consumer electronics do not have such exemptions.  


Ok, fine.
Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the card back from him through the step-up process?  If not, EVGA should foot his sales tax bill.  Legally, maybe EVGA does have to ensure that the full sales tax is paid each time, but its EVGA's choice who should foot the bill, right?  EVGA is the one who forwards the sales tax to the applicable state.  It's EVGA's choice where those funds come from.
These laws are silly.  When EVGA sells the card it received from step-up as a B-stock item, the buyer has to pay sales tax for it again.  How many times does the same card create revenue for a state?




Don't shoot the messenger or EVGA.  It's your benevolent overlords that make the rules.  They also decide which animals are more equal than others (see vehicle sales).  
 
EVGA is required to collect the sales tax on each item they sell at the price it sells at (trade ins are not taken into account in this equation).  If and when they resell the OP's 3070, they'll collect sales tax on that as well from whomever purchases it.  It is similar to when I take my Xbox into Gamestop to trade in one the new model.  I still pay sales tax on the $500 the new model costs.  I just get a credit toward the purchase.

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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:17:02 (permalink)
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Don't shoot the messenger or EVGA.  It's your benevolent overlords that make the rules.  They also decide which animals are more equal than others (see vehicle sales).  
 
EVGA is required to collect the sales tax on each item they sell at the price it sells at (trade ins are not taken into account in this equation).  If and when they resell the OP's 3070, they'll collect sales tax on that as well from whomever purchases it.  It is similar to when I take my Xbox into Gamestop to trade in one the new model.  I still pay sales tax on the $500 the new model costs.  I just get a credit toward the purchase.

Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the step-up card back from the user?

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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:20:54 (permalink)
Greedy & corrupted politicians, never enough money from working people.
 
That is shame, on 2 products they steal 3 full taxes.
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:27:42 (permalink)
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Don't shoot the messenger or EVGA.  It's your benevolent overlords that make the rules.  They also decide which animals are more equal than others (see vehicle sales).  
 
EVGA is required to collect the sales tax on each item they sell at the price it sells at (trade ins are not taken into account in this equation).  If and when they resell the OP's 3070, they'll collect sales tax on that as well from whomever purchases it.  It is similar to when I take my Xbox into Gamestop to trade in one the new model.  I still pay sales tax on the $500 the new model costs.  I just get a credit toward the purchase.

Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the step-up card back from the user?


 
They would if the user were a business.  In general, private individuals don't have to collect sales tax on behalf of the government, but businesses that sell used goods do have to collect tax.  Of course, most people would just do this as a private individual, although not sure if that would be legal.  It would essentially be an employee stealing or being "gifted" the GPU by the business and then doing this double transaction of selling and then buying another card with company money.
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Re: Step up sales tax 2020/11/30 11:44:16 (permalink)
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Don't shoot the messenger or EVGA.  It's your benevolent overlords that make the rules.  They also decide which animals are more equal than others (see vehicle sales).  
 
EVGA is required to collect the sales tax on each item they sell at the price it sells at (trade ins are not taken into account in this equation).  If and when they resell the OP's 3070, they'll collect sales tax on that as well from whomever purchases it.  It is similar to when I take my Xbox into Gamestop to trade in one the new model.  I still pay sales tax on the $500 the new model costs.  I just get a credit toward the purchase.

Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the step-up card back from the user?


 
They would if the user were a business.  In general, private individuals don't have to collect sales tax on behalf of the government, but businesses that sell used goods do have to collect tax.  Of course, most people would just do this as a private individual, although not sure if that would be legal.  It would essentially be an employee stealing or being "gifted" the GPU by the business and then doing this double transaction of selling and then buying another card with company money.




 
Fun fact.  Here in Texas for years we didn't pay sales tax on Amazon purchases (or any online for that matter).  Legally, Texas residents were required to remit sales/use tax to the state for online purchases that did not collect it.  Of course the state never pursued it from the citizens but we were still technically supposed to do it.  Texas did go after Amazon though and got something like $250 million from them and from then on we were charged sales tax.

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Re: Step up sales tax 2021/06/03 10:37:59 (permalink)
i have a question . for example on amazon there are professional and normal accounts  so you can buy without tax when buying from EU. is here an option available ? i cant really test it since there are no products for me to click to add to cart or something like that.
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Re: Step up sales tax 2021/06/05 11:09:36 (permalink)
Not surprised, most companies are trying to take advantage of the demand...
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Re: Step up sales tax 2021/06/05 13:01:33 (permalink)
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Don't shoot the messenger or EVGA.  It's your benevolent overlords that make the rules.  They also decide which animals are more equal than others (see vehicle sales).  
 
EVGA is required to collect the sales tax on each item they sell at the price it sells at (trade ins are not taken into account in this equation).  If and when they resell the OP's 3070, they'll collect sales tax on that as well from whomever purchases it.  It is similar to when I take my Xbox into Gamestop to trade in one the new model.  I still pay sales tax on the $500 the new model costs.  I just get a credit toward the purchase.

Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the step-up card back from the user?


 
They would if the user were a business.  In general, private individuals don't have to collect sales tax on behalf of the government, but businesses that sell used goods do have to collect tax.  Of course, most people would just do this as a private individual, although not sure if that would be legal.  It would essentially be an employee stealing or being "gifted" the GPU by the business and then doing this double transaction of selling and then buying another card with company money.




 
Fun fact.  Here in Texas for years we didn't pay sales tax on Amazon purchases (or any online for that matter).  Legally, Texas residents were required to remit sales/use tax to the state for online purchases that did not collect it.  Of course the state never pursued it from the citizens but we were still technically supposed to do it.  Texas did go after Amazon though and got something like $250 million from them and from then on we were charged sales tax.




It was essentially not a requirement for Amazon to charge taxes to customers who are buying products where Amazon did not have a physical presence at. Not that Amazon has 2 or 3 warehouses in Texas... All Texans now pay taxes on Amazon purchases. 

This actually was a federal tax law for a while - online purchases were tax free unless the entity exists in a place where the purchaser resides. 


 
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Re: Step up sales tax 2023/02/06 00:44:30 (permalink)
To get a quicker answer, it's recommended that you reach out to support. During the second step of the process, a final verification of all prices will be conducted and the totals may be adjusted. Contacting support would provide you with the information you need.
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Re: Step up sales tax 2023/02/06 02:00:59 (permalink)
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To get a quicker answer, it's recommended that you reach out to support. During the second step of the process, a final verification of all prices will be conducted and the totals may be adjusted. Contacting support would provide you with the information you need.


Welcome to the forums. This topic isn’t really under discussion as step up doesn’t exist anymore. Both thread you commented on haven’t been active in almost a year and a half.
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Re: Step up sales tax 2023/02/06 04:26:24 (permalink)
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This actually was a federal tax law for a while - online purchases were tax free unless the entity exists in a place where the purchaser resides. 

A tax law for the retailer, maybe. For the consumer, it wasn't tax free. The consumer was required to report and pay use tax to their state. Now, since consumers weren't doing that, the retailers are made to ensure tax is collected.

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Re: Step up sales tax 2023/02/06 08:47:26 (permalink)
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Don't shoot the messenger or EVGA.  It's your benevolent overlords that make the rules.  They also decide which animals are more equal than others (see vehicle sales).  
 
EVGA is required to collect the sales tax on each item they sell at the price it sells at (trade ins are not taken into account in this equation).  If and when they resell the OP's 3070, they'll collect sales tax on that as well from whomever purchases it.  It is similar to when I take my Xbox into Gamestop to trade in one the new model.  I still pay sales tax on the $500 the new model costs.  I just get a credit toward the purchase.

Does EVGA pay sales tax for buying the step-up card back from the user?


 
They would if the user were a business.  In general, private individuals don't have to collect sales tax on behalf of the government, but businesses that sell used goods do have to collect tax.  Of course, most people would just do this as a private individual, although not sure if that would be legal.  It would essentially be an employee stealing or being "gifted" the GPU by the business and then doing this double transaction of selling and then buying another card with company money.




 
Fun fact.  Here in Texas for years we didn't pay sales tax on Amazon purchases (or any online for that matter).  Legally, Texas residents were required to remit sales/use tax to the state for online purchases that did not collect it.  Of course the state never pursued it from the citizens but we were still technically supposed to do it.  Texas did go after Amazon though and got something like $250 million from them and from then on we were charged sales tax.


This was true for a number of states until relatively recently. Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon are the only states that do not collect this as they do not have state sales taxes.

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Re: Step up sales tax 2023/02/06 13:02:39 (permalink)
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This was true for a number of states until relatively recently. Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon are the only states that do not collect this as they do not have state sales taxes.



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