Hey All,

Recently I put together a PC for the first time in a long time, everything with it for the most part was perfect, Until I loaded up Metro 2034 and noticed some issues pop up. I would tend to get stutter towards the start of intense graphics, even though running around / idling in metro on max settings 1440/ G sync on yields 100 frames+ as soon as something intensive pops up it will stutter Briefly or moderately depending on the situation. During entering the Water Chapel in 2034 is when it was at its worst, this scenario had a lot of shadows and whatnot. As soon as I entered I would get frame drop and stutter. I took pictures Of my MSI afterburner and power drops along with fan speed ect. Am I hitting a bottleneck or hitting some other underlying issue with my PSU? Vram Cap?

I tried quite a few things such as

DDU- Into fresh Driver install DCH
fresh windows install 1903
Turning off overclock
Under-clocking RAM
Direct 11x vs 12x

 
 
My system parts are,
Mobo-
833475 GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX
Processor-
831370 INTEL INTEL I5-9600K BOX @ 4.6
Graphics-
Evga Black Gaming 2080 TI
Psu-
854067 IPSG 750W 80+ GOLD FULLY PSU
Ram-
348201 IPSG 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200 KIT
SSD-
860312 INLAND 1TB I PREMIUM NVME SSD
Monitor
-942433 MSI 27" LED MAG271CQR MONIT/G 1440p - This is the monitor I was using thinking it was the source of the issues, Now I have purchased a monitor with true Gsync (PG279Q) and the issue still persists
 
 
 
Any help at this point is greatly appreciated, I have run out of things to try and have started spending more and more money piece by piece to try and figure this out. As title states , will pay to play. Just want this figured out at this point

Have you set your Nvidia "power management mode" (3D settings menu) to "prefer maximum performance"?  That should make the GPU idle at its boost clock or higher, and thus stop jumping between power states.

Gotta love game bugs.

Sajin
Gotta love game bugs.

Does happen in other games, however its a much rarer event in games like borderlands 2 ect ect
 

GTXJackBauer
Check your PC's RAM usage just in case it's high.  Once I upgrade my PC RAM from 16GB 2400 to 32GB 3200 my ridiculous game stuttering in BFV basically went away.

Ram Usage on mine is generally around 8-9Gigs, I am going to try the wagnardsoft hardware when I get home. 

Piroxbot14

kevinc313
Have you set your Nvidia "power management mode" (3D settings menu) to "prefer maximum performance"?  That should make the GPU idle at its boost clock or higher, and thus stop jumping between power states.

Yessir that has been done
 

Have you tried disabling EIST (intel speed step) in the bios and/or setting the minimum cpu power state to 100% in power management?  Be warned that increasing the min power state will make your CPU idle about 5-10C hotter on a normal cooler.
 
Have you tried setting a 10GB+ page file on your NVME SSD?

Piroxbot14

kevinc313

Piroxbot14

kevinc313
Have you set your Nvidia "power management mode" (3D settings menu) to "prefer maximum performance"?  That should make the GPU idle at its boost clock or higher, and thus stop jumping between power states.

Yessir that has been done
 

Have you tried disabling EIST (intel speed step) in the bios and/or setting the minimum cpu power state to 100% in power management?  Be warned that increasing the min power state will make your CPU idle about 5-10C hotter on a normal cooler.
 
Have you tried setting a 10GB+ page file on your NVME SSD?

I searched up and found the 10g page file setup solution, the one under performance tab or whatnot. Tried that and still have the same issue of dipping. As far as power states go I am 100%/100%. I will try to disable speed step now

Ah too bad.  You could try completely disabling the page file and watch for disk activity during the stuttering. Just another thing to try.
 
In my experience setting the CPU power minimum to 100% already keeps it from being down clocked by speed step, but disabling it may be worth a shot.
 
It's possible that you may be just reaching the real limits of the card.  I've only had my 2080ti XC for about a week but was able to get it to stutter to 30fps in GTA5 at 4K with all the settings maxed out.  Following a setting guide and turning down the poor benefit/demand ratio options got it running smooth at 4k/60hz vsync, it only gets near max power (105% power, +50 clock, +500 mem) when looking at a large field of grass, lol.  Running the same settings on my projector at 1080p 60hz vsync'd is hilarious, it runs at like 30% power, 1200mhz and 40C.
 
You could install a hybrid cooler or water block and push the card harder.  I've got a hybrid ready to go on when I get around to it.
 
Also I'm with everybody else in saying moar RAM.  My new build started with 32gb and then went to 64gb.  Most I've seen used is about 20gb while running ARK single player, but might as well buy now while prices are low and its possible to get a matching set.
 
 

Piroxbot14
I really hope that’s not the limit of the card, it’s just really weird that it’s really perfect and then just suddenly takes a dive for .1 seconds then comes back. If that really is the limit I’ll probaly end up returning it and going higher up on evga’s list.

I disabled hairworks and picked up some FPS, however there are also three new updates when I scanned so I am going to do that and try again.

I'm not sure about the dives in power you're getting vs. the stutter.  If it is at max power (by on screen display) while the stutter is happening then it's got to be card's limits.  Are you sure the power dive isn't occurring before or after the stutter?
 

kevinc313

Piroxbot14
I really hope that’s not the limit of the card, it’s just really weird that it’s really perfect and then just suddenly takes a dive for .1 seconds then comes back. If that really is the limit I’ll probaly end up returning it and going higher up on evga’s list.

I disabled hairworks and picked up some FPS, however there are also three new updates when I scanned so I am going to do that and try again.

I'm not sure about the dives in power you're getting vs. the stutter.  If it is at max power (by on screen display) while the stutter is happening then it's got to be card's limits.  Are you sure the power dive isn't occurring before or after the stutter?
 

Can't say for sure on if its before or after, but if I tab out once frames drop, after I put myself in a situation to make them drop like the water temple, I can tab out and the power drop/GPU usage drop will match right up with the FPS drop.

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kevinc313

Piroxbot14
I really hope that’s not the limit of the card, it’s just really weird that it’s really perfect and then just suddenly takes a dive for .1 seconds then comes back. If that really is the limit I’ll probaly end up returning it and going higher up on evga’s list.

I disabled hairworks and picked up some FPS, however there are also three new updates when I scanned so I am going to do that and try again.

I'm not sure about the dives in power you're getting vs. the stutter.  If it is at max power (by on screen display) while the stutter is happening then it's got to be card's limits.  Are you sure the power dive isn't occurring before or after the stutter?
 

Can't say for sure on if its before or after, but if I tab out once frames drop, after I put myself in a situation to make them drop like the water temple, I can tab out and the power drop/GPU usage drop will match right up with the FPS drop.

It may be more accurate to use the Rivatuner on screen display to confirm that the power loss exactly coincides with the frame rate loss / stutter.

kevinc313

Piroxbot14

kevinc313

Piroxbot14
I really hope that’s not the limit of the card, it’s just really weird that it’s really perfect and then just suddenly takes a dive for .1 seconds then comes back. If that really is the limit I’ll probaly end up returning it and going higher up on evga’s list.

I disabled hairworks and picked up some FPS, however there are also three new updates when I scanned so I am going to do that and try again.

I'm not sure about the dives in power you're getting vs. the stutter.  If it is at max power (by on screen display) while the stutter is happening then it's got to be card's limits.  Are you sure the power dive isn't occurring before or after the stutter?
 

Can't say for sure on if its before or after, but if I tab out once frames drop, after I put myself in a situation to make them drop like the water temple, I can tab out and the power drop/GPU usage drop will match right up with the FPS drop.

It may be more accurate to use the Rivatuner on screen display to confirm that the power loss exactly coincides with the frame rate loss / stutter.

I put it up on Precision and it power/usage/Frames All dropped together.

Piroxbot14
On exodus/ other higher end titles with the new HSAA or whatever it is the same thing occurs as well.

 
Like I said, major oversampling can bring a 2080 Ti to its knees.

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kevinc313

Piroxbot14
On exodus/ other higher end titles with the new HSAA or whatever it is the same thing occurs as well.

 
Like I said, major oversampling can bring a 2080 Ti to its knees.

I believe these are the only settings, So I may have misspoke
 
       -Quality:

1. Texture Filtering:
2. Motion Blur:
3. Tessellation:
4. Advanced PhysX:
5. HairWorks:
6. Ray Tracing
7. DLSS
8. Shading Rate: 
9. Vsync 
10. resolution 

 
That's interesting.  DLSS is the new intelligent under sampling feature that's supposed to improve frame rates.  Because it's supposed to be under sampling.  Unless there was somehow a way to set it to over sample.

Run GPUz & monitor the results on sensors tab
 
no issues in Device Manager ?

Small but seemingly good update, bought another card, installed it and initially the same issue occurred. I went through playing with the settings and eventually landed on turning hairworks off. Doing this with this card installed from what I can tell stopped the stutter/hang. From what I can see with hairworks off there is no hang or stutter but cpu usage itself is somewhat bouncy still. Does this point to a CPU/MB issue?