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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/05 04:33:03 (permalink)
Can you start your own thread, or can a moderator split all of his posts off into his own thread?

Original post : different person has crashes when overclocking
His posts: he has crashes when not overclocking

The original poster's last response was post #4 in November of 2018. Since then, it has been dragged off-topic.
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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/05 06:12:04 (permalink)
Unfortunately, the forum software will not allow me to move multiple posts into one at the same time.    I would recommend that blackdragonhun start his own thread.  I believe your problem pertains to crashes with no overclock, whereas the others are discussing crashes with an overclock.   different scenarios.  thanks.   

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/05 22:02:18 (permalink)
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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 08:09:58 (permalink)
It seemed that I could fix the issue from myside by swtching from 144Hz refresh rate to 120Hz in both games BF1 and BF5, on which I have the issue mentionned in this thread.
To be confirmed by more gaming time spending on both games.

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 08:29:30 (permalink)
Interesting! Glad I'm gaming at 120hz cause I play bfv. hehe

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 09:05:12 (permalink)
The error reported by the OP in BF5 is "percentage wise" most often caused by incorrect settings, OC software(AB/Precision) or by running/having too many programs in memory when launching the game.
 
Running a 1080Ti in BF5 (DX11) and no errors or crashing at 2560x1440 on a 144hz monitor with Gsync ON refresh set to 120
Using ulta settings "looks" smooth but the FPS is not what I like to play with in multiplayer, I use "high" settings for a much better frame rate
 
Unrealistic expectations for 1080 Ti FPS in BF5 with Ultra settings on.. at 2560 (or higher/multi monitor)
--->means you have to have to make a choice about what kind of performance you need and what will cause BF5 to crash
 
*and I agree that overclocking in Frostbite engine games is unneeded, as the few frames gained (often less than 10) are not worth the crashes.
 turning down a graphics setting or two (in game) will often provide 200-300% more FPS gain that -any- OC  
 




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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 09:39:21 (permalink)
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The error reported by the OP in BF5 is "percentage wise" most often caused by incorrect settings, OC software(AB/Precision) or by running/having too many programs in memory when launching the game.
 
Running a 1080Ti in BF5 (DX11) and no errors or crashing at 2560x1440 on a 144hz monitor with Gsync ON refresh set to 120
Using ulta settings "looks" smooth but the FPS is not what I like to play with in multiplayer, I use "high" settings for a much better frame rate
 
Unrealistic expectations for 1080 Ti FPS in BF5 with Ultra settings on.. at 2560 (or higher/multi monitor)
--->means you have to have to make a choice about what kind of performance you need and what will cause BF5 to crash
 
*and I agree that overclocking in Frostbite engine games is unneeded, as the few frames gained (often less than 10) are not worth the crashes.
 turning down a graphics setting or two (in game) will often provide 200-300% more FPS gain that -any- OC  
 




Percentage wise,  it was 100% caused by overclocking for the OP.  This thread became a mess pretty quickly.  For the most part I agree, I'm one of the lucky one though that seems to be able to run at 2050mhz and 12ghz all day and never crash. That's a decent bump from the 1800mhz or so the default FE boosts to when warmed up. Of course the Hybrid helps a lot temp wise. At 4K that can make a different between running always over 60 FPS or that mess of 55-60 FPS.  I also finally got some decent internet. Went from my crap 1.5mb 60ms best case DSL to 70mb 11ms WISP. It's 11 miles to the tower. I had to take out several 150' Hemlocks to get LOS...It was worth it.

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 09:41:45 (permalink)
Just got the error message in BF1...So switching to 120Hz is not the solution.
I play at 2560x1440, Gsync enabled.
 
For me the error occurs after some seconds or minutes of games...Even sometimes after 1 hour.
Next step for me :
=> to test witout any additionnal OC on the GTX 1080Ti above the EVGA FTW3 1569MHz base clock, which is already a kind of factory OC...
=> To try with Vsync enabled.
=> Lowering graphics setting to "High"
 
 

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 13:52:44 (permalink)
As someone who has troubleshot hundreds of tough BF issues over the years since Frostbite was introduced...
--->I can say without any doubt that incorrect launching conditions, incorrect Nvidia driver settings, and/or in-game settings and incorrect Precision/Afterburner use are most often the cause of the the error encountered by the OP.
 
Very rarely is properly tested and stable overclock the cause of Frostbite issues, but of course one of the best tests for OC (CPU and GPU) stability is running BF without issues  




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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 14:02:39 (permalink)
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Just got the error message in BF1...So switching to 120Hz is not the solution.
I play at 2560x1440, Gsync enabled.
 
For me the error occurs after some seconds or minutes of games...Even sometimes after 1 hour.
Next step for me :
=> to test witout any additionnal OC on the GTX 1080Ti above the EVGA FTW3 1569MHz base clock, which is already a kind of factory OC...
=> To try with Vsync enabled.
=> Lowering graphics setting to "High"
 
 




Reset your Nvidia settings to defaults (except native screen and refresh)
Uninstall Precision and use AB instead with -no- Rivia tuner installed and use no OSD features, do a test without OC first and if it runs try with a OC
Understand what your OS boot is loading (TSR) and make it clean so your game launch condition will not be a factor 
When I see users with a ridiculous TSR count  -and/or- anything that's hooking into the Nvidia driver.... well you got to fix that




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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/08 16:15:56 (permalink)
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Just got the error message in BF1...So switching to 120Hz is not the solution.
I play at 2560x1440, Gsync enabled.
 
For me the error occurs after some seconds or minutes of games...Even sometimes after 1 hour.
Next step for me :
=> to test witout any additionnal OC on the GTX 1080Ti above the EVGA FTW3 1569MHz base clock, which is already a kind of factory OC...
=> To try with Vsync enabled.
=> Lowering graphics setting to "High"
 
 




Reset your Nvidia settings to defaults (except native screen and refresh)
Uninstall Precision and use AB instead with -no- Rivia tuner installed and use no OSD features, do a test without OC first and if it runs try with a OC
Understand what your OS boot is loading (TSR) and make it clean so your game launch condition will not be a factor 
When I see users with a ridiculous TSR count  -and/or- anything that's hooking into the Nvidia driver.... well you got to fix that




I have already reset drivers NVIDIA to default => No way
I use AB (Not PX) => Even uninstalled => No way
No RTSS => No way
 
I could play 30 minutes at stock frequancies, but it is not enough to conclude.
 
The question which is very interesting is why only BF1 and BF5 seem to accept no OC on the GTX ?
In the last months, I had no issues....
 
On all other games (DOOM, Overwatch, COD WWII, COD BO3, COD BO4, SWBF, SWBF2, TitanFall 2,), I can overclock the GPU at 2152MHz (1695MHz base clock !!)  for GPU and 5900MHz for the memory, and no issues so far !
Also in benchmarks (Heaven, Time Spy, Superposition), no issues !
 
I am really concerned by those 2 games (BF1 and BF5) which seem to not accept any OC...That's new and strange...Even if they are heavy stressing GPU games....
 
And why 2 battlefields games ?
 
 
post edited by grabibus - 2019/03/08 16:19:36

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/10 06:08:55 (permalink)
I found this thread :
 
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/38131/directx-function-error-nvidia-are-you-actually-serious-ea-28-03-17-21-34-cest/p564
 
As I am trying all possible solutions, a guy at page 564 advises to clean Origin folder as follow :
1. Sign out from and quit Origin.
2. Press Windows + R to open run;
3. Typing %ProgramData% then clicking OK to open the ProgramData folder;
4. Deleting the Origin folder.
 
I did it yesterday and could play 1 hour BF1 without any issues with my OC on GTX 1080 Ti (GPU Base Clock 1695MHz and 2152MHz at 1.093V / Base clock Memory 1476MHz).
 
I will try more minutes and games sessions to check if it was the issue.
 
I also could play BF5 15mns with this OC and at 144Hz, without any issue.
 
I will post in a few hours or days to inform if it was definitely the solution or not.
 
Can other people with the issue of this thread try this ?
post edited by grabibus - 2019/03/10 06:23:13

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/10 17:44:13 (permalink)
Crash BF1 this evening with allways same message (Same as shown by Jeruk_ at first post).
 
This bug makes me crazy...
 
 
post edited by grabibus - 2019/03/10 17:46:19

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/11 12:43:08 (permalink)
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Crash BF1 this evening with allways same message (Same as shown by Jeruk_ at first post).
 
This bug makes me crazy...
 
 


Have you tried underclocking your card to max negative values on the core & memory to see if that helps stop the error message?
 
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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/11 12:51:12 (permalink)
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Crash BF1 this evening with allways same message (Same as shown by Jeruk_ at first post).
 
This bug makes me crazy...
 
 


2152MHz at 1.093V
I don't know anyone who can run a 1080 Ti at those clocks and be stable on BF1/V. Not even your GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G flashed with Bios EVGA FTW3 Slave (358W) / GPU @ 2152MHz
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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/11 13:07:47 (permalink)
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Crash BF1 this evening with allways same message (Same as shown by Jeruk_ at first post).
 
This bug makes me crazy...
 
 


2152MHz at 1.093V
I don't know anyone who can run a 1080 Ti at those clocks and be stable on BF1/V. Not even your GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G flashed with Bios EVGA FTW3 Slave (358W) / GPU @ 2152MHz




I could...I could... without any issue or crash. It was ASUS XOC Bios (Which I don't use anymore) and more than one year ago :
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY0aYKCx5lc
 
Now, even with +10MHz on core above 1569MHz, I crash...
 
Something is due too drivers, Dice patches, etc....Not only overclock of graphic card.

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/11 13:44:58 (permalink)
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Crash BF1 this evening with allways same message (Same as shown by Jeruk_ at first post).
 
This bug makes me crazy...
 
 


Have you tried underclocking your card to max negative values on the core & memory to see if that helps stop the error message?
 




I tried all I could according to what I read on the net on this issue and according to my PC knowledge.
As you can imagine, playing at stock or downclocking were the last things I wanted to try.
 
I will try first at GPU stock frequency, which is 1569MHz.
i will set power limit at 127% (Slider to the max) in MSI AB, which provides boost frequency at 2000MHz.
If it crashes, I will then try still at stock frequency 1569MHz but with power limit slider of MSI AB at 100%, which provides boost frequency at 1987MHz.
 
If it still crash, I will maybe (But not sure) downclock . I say maybe, as I am fed up with this issue

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/22 15:19:45 (permalink)
Issue solved :
after all I could try, I decided to try miscellaneous Bioses on my card.
Finally, I flashed with the ASUS XOC Bios (No power limit).
 
Result :
No more crashes since some days now in BF1, even with overclock.
 
I have set a stable overclock 2114MHz/11800MHz built like this :
+111MHz over 1569MHz base clock in MSI AB (Means 1680MHz base clock)
V/F point 2114MHz set at 1.131V and flat V/F curve at 2114MHz from 1.131V to 1.25V.
+397MHz on memory, which leads to 11800MHz.
 
So, with EVGA FTW3 Bios on my card, something weird happened in BF1 for me.
By the way I tried other Bios (From Gigabyte, MSI, even the Founders Edition one) and I got BF1 crashing also.
 
ASUS XOC Bios with no power limit has solved apparently.
 
What is funny, is that now, BF1 can be played with huge overclock 2190MHz/11800MHz, but not my other games which crash with this 2190MHz overclock.
BF1 has become the game which allowes higher overclcok on my card without crashes lol
 
By the way, I play with 2114MHz/11800MHz as it is stable in all games I could play since 1 week.
 
 

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Re: Battlefield V - DirectX crash/error with any amount of OC on GTX 1080 Ti SC Black 2019/03/22 15:24:35 (permalink)

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