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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/04 05:56:47 (permalink)
Great.
I don't use the lan, so that's no problem.
Just wanna make sure the BIOS, Chipset, USB 3, Drive Controller and TurboBoost drivers are available.
I can't imagine they're on the Win7 OS disk, are they?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/04 06:48:39 (permalink)
Probably not, but in reality the only drivers you'll need are the USB and drive controllers.
Chipset and TurboBoost are not needed, especially if you're planning on OC'ing from the bios.

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/04 08:16:42 (permalink)
Out of curiosity, We're you able to install from usb?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/05 04:56:58 (permalink)
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Out of curiosity, We're you able to install from usb?

DVD's for me, old school. :D
 

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/05 17:49:03 (permalink)
any chance you were succesfull at installing to an NVME drive? if not did you install to an HDD or SDD on the legacy ports?
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/06 04:35:09 (permalink)
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any chance you were succesfull at installing to an NVME drive? if not did you install to an HDD or SDD on the legacy ports?

I don't use NVME drives
 

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/06 20:56:26 (permalink)
I was able to install windows 7 to an NVMe drive from USB. not sure if my process was 100% correct, but appears successful.

Your Windows installation USB needs to be slip streamed with the appropriate USB drivers. Intel has created a tool to do this automatically. I did this manually so that i could add the NVMe drivers as well, but i would recommend using intel's tool and then loading the appropriate NVMe drivers during install. I used NVMe drivers from a win-raid forum. After loading the NVMe drivers, i used diskpart to partition the drive with larger System, MSR and recovery tool partitions. I dont know if this is necessary, but i think larger partitions will help if i later dual boot windows 10.

I was on bios 1.07, and had the following tweaked from the default:

Go to boot settings,

"Windows 7 Installation" keep set to disabled as long as you have USB drivers slip streamed into your installation media

scroll down to: CSM Configuration
CSM Support Enabled

Network doesn't matter, default is disabled
Storage UEFI
Other PCI Devices UEFI

also, Windows 7 appears to be able to find the HDD on any of the 6 newer sata ports during installation, so install possible to an HDD or sata sdd. I was originally thinking the newer sata ports wouldnt register.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/04/06 23:41:00 (permalink)
also, the gigabite NICs are Intel Gigabit Ethernet i210-AT and i219-V. Intel provides a legacy driver pack which includes these drivers.
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/11/23 12:24:03 (permalink)
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I was able to install windows 7 to an NVMe drive from USB. not sure if my process was 100% correct, but appears successful.

Your Windows installation USB needs to be slip streamed with the appropriate USB drivers. Intel has created a tool to do this automatically. I did this manually so that i could add the NVMe drivers as well, but i would recommend using intel's tool and then loading the appropriate NVMe drivers during install. I used NVMe drivers from a win-raid forum. After loading the NVMe drivers, i used diskpart to partition the drive with larger System, MSR and recovery tool partitions. I dont know if this is necessary, but i think larger partitions will help if i later dual boot windows 10.

I was on bios 1.07, and had the following tweaked from the default:

Go to boot settings,

"Windows 7 Installation" keep set to disabled as long as you have USB drivers slip streamed into your installation media

scroll down to: CSM Configuration
CSM Support Enabled

Network doesn't matter, default is disabled
Storage UEFI
Other PCI Devices UEFI

also, Windows 7 appears to be able to find the HDD on any of the 6 newer sata ports during installation, so install possible to an HDD or sata sdd. I was originally thinking the newer sata ports wouldnt register.

Glad you figured it out. I have this board coming (will be here tomorrow) as a replacement for my ASUS ROG Rampage VI Apex that has failed. I am excited that all of my major components will be EVGA products, and I am eager to see what gains I can make on the HWBOT leader board using the X299 Dark. Now all I need is a 2080 Ti FTW3 and Hydro Copper block to replace my power-modded modded 1080 Ti SC2 and I'll be set. Finding a 2080 Ti FTW3 and the associated Hydro Copper block available for purchase anywhere has been nearly impossible. Every notification I get from EVGA, it's already gone. I got one yesterday, click the link to buy it and before I could complete the purchase in my shopping cart it was already unavailable, LOL.
 
Anyhow, there is no reason to believe that Windows 7 would not work flawlessly with this motherboard. EVGA is too smart to shut out support for the best OS Microsoft has ever produced. There would be too many people that would refuse to purchase it if they did that. I will continue to multi-boot Windows 7 and two versions of Windows 10 Enterprise based on which OS yields the best benchmark scores.
 
The notion that Windows 7 doesn't work flawlessly on all SKL and KBL processors is a hoax Micro$oft has initiated to try to coerce adoption of Windows 10. The fact of the matter is, these processors actually perform better with Windows 7 in almost every measurement that exists. But, Micro$oft doesn't want anyone to know that.
 
It is pretty sad that EVGA is not providing driver downloads for Windows 7 for this board like their chief competitor (ASUS) does. 
 
As far as USB installation prep is concerned, you can mod the Windows 7 ISO using several different tools (adding USB 3.X and NVMe drivers), or use the ASUS EZ Install tool on an existing USB thumb drive. That tool is not brand-specific and it works fine regardless of what desktop or laptop you are wanting to install Windows 7. The drivers are generic and not brand-specific.

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/11/30 22:44:52 (permalink)
Got it running pretty nice at this point. Windows 7 works flawless on it (as expected).
 
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post edited by Mr. Fox - 2018/11/30 22:48:12

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/12/01 10:50:38 (permalink)
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Got it running pretty nice at this point. Windows 7 works flawless on it (as expected).
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Now Impress us and install an RTX 2080 Ti Graphics Card or Two
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/12/02 00:22:45 (permalink)
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Got it running pretty nice at this point. Windows 7 works flawless on it (as expected).
wPrime 1024M:  
Cinebench R11.5:  

 
Now Impress us and install an RTX 2080 Ti Graphics Card or Two


Thanks!  That's my plan, but I have a ways to go before I can fit that into my budget. I'm saving for the the 2080 Ti FTW3 and a Hydrocopper block. Considering the ludicrous pricing of the 20-series, I'm hoping it will be responsive to the same hard mods that my 1080 Ti SC2 has been. That beast runs stable at 2240 on core with 1.200V with no PerfCap reasons. Maybe I'll be able to run the FTW3 at 2400 or 2500 on core clock. For now, still working on beating my scores with the Rampage VI Apex.
 

 
post edited by Mr. Fox - 2018/12/02 00:29:24

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/12/02 06:32:05 (permalink)
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Got it running pretty nice at this point. Windows 7 works flawless on it (as expected).
wPrime 1024M:  
Cinebench R11.5:  

 
Now Impress us and install an RTX 2080 Ti Graphics Card or Two


Thanks!  That's my plan, but I have a ways to go before I can fit that into my budget. I'm saving for the the 2080 Ti FTW3 and a Hydrocopper block. Considering the ludicrous pricing of the 20-series, I'm hoping it will be responsive to the same hard mods that my 1080 Ti SC2 has been. That beast runs stable at 2240 on core with 1.200V with no PerfCap reasons. Maybe I'll be able to run the FTW3 at 2400 or 2500 on core clock. For now, still working on beating my scores with the Rampage VI Apex.
 

 


The RTX will be pretty useless with Windows 7. Ray Tracing functionality (when available in more games) is only going to work with the very latest Windows 10.

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/12/03 21:40:41 (permalink)
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Got it running pretty nice at this point. Windows 7 works flawless on it (as expected).
wPrime 1024M:  
Cinebench R11.5:  

 
Now Impress us and install an RTX 2080 Ti Graphics Card or Two


Thanks!  That's my plan, but I have a ways to go before I can fit that into my budget. I'm saving for the the 2080 Ti FTW3 and a Hydrocopper block. Considering the ludicrous pricing of the 20-series, I'm hoping it will be responsive to the same hard mods that my 1080 Ti SC2 has been. That beast runs stable at 2240 on core with 1.200V with no PerfCap reasons. Maybe I'll be able to run the FTW3 at 2400 or 2500 on core clock. For now, still working on beating my scores with the Rampage VI Apex.
 

 


The RTX will be pretty useless with Windows 7. Ray Tracing functionality (when available in more games) is only going to work with the very latest Windows 10.

Yes, I am aware. But, it's equally likely that the current RTX GPUs will be too old and obsolete to matter by the time that ray tracing is truly important. DX12 was the popular gimmick that was supposed to make Windoze 10 to die for back in 2015 and DX12 is still nearly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I spend probably twice as many hours a year benching than I do playing games. It's pretty sad that they have to resort to those tactics as an effort to coerce adoption, but understandable to the extent that there would be no reason for anyone to be willing to put up with the newer OS and all of its shortcomings without those gimmicks. In fact, I suspect DX12 and ray tracing would work so much better with Windows 7 that there would be an extra incentive to refuse to "upgrade" at all.
 
I've been an SLI fan for years and 1080 Ti is the first time since about 2007 that I have settled for a single GPU system. I'm half way torn with the prospect of upgrading to RTX 2080 Ti versus spending half as much money for a matching 1080 Ti. At current prices, the notion of having a dual 2080 Ti setup is so insanely expensive that the concept is ludicrous. 
 
The primary reason for my interest in 2080 Ti is not ray tracing capabilities as much as higher core and memory clock speeds. At the same clock speeds minus ray tracing, it's not really an upgrade. But, but higher maximum core and memory overclock potential makes it alluring since that is what matters most to me.
post edited by Mr. Fox - 2018/12/03 21:54:16

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2018/12/23 09:21:56 (permalink)
OK, I finally figured out a way to swing one 2080 Ti, but could not find a FTW3 until after I bought the XC2 Ultra. (That's how my luck goes, LOL.) 
 
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/03/02 22:55:33 (permalink)
OK, now I have Windows 7, Windows 10 LTSC and OpenSUSE Linux all running on the X299 Dark. 




 

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/03/03 01:44:42 (permalink)
Excellent

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/03/03 21:40:05 (permalink)
Wow, I have not seen anyone still using Suse.
I started with Suse, moved onto Fedora and now primarily use CentOS. Reason for CentOS is that I use it for server usage and not desktop. I even have CentOS on a Raspberry PI running as an OpenVPN server
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/08/04 18:52:00 (permalink)
While it's somewhat non-related.. but related.. I just spent a few days installing win7 drivers on an MSI Ryzen X470 board and it was an ordeal doing so.. but it does work..however Windows blasts an message stating that It will not update service patches etc(this message pops up frequently) due to the new arch of the processor/motherboard.. There are forums by the MB manufacturers(MSI, Gigabyte and others that show you how to do this(installing usb 3.0/3.1 drivers etc) in windows 7 but it's a LOT of work.. but I have a stable system with NMVE support in Windows 7.. but it took work...
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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/08/04 18:55:13 (permalink)
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While it's somewhat non-related.. but related.. I just spent a few days installing win7 drivers on an MSI Ryzen X470 board and it was an ordeal doing so.. but it does work..however Windows blasts an message stating that It will not update service patches etc(this message pops up frequently) due to the new arch of the processor/motherboard.. There are forums by the MB manufacturers(MSI, Gigabyte and others that show you how to do this(installing usb 3.0/3.1 drivers etc) in windows 7 but it's a LOT of work.. but I have a stable system with NMVE support in Windows 7.. but it took work...


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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/08/04 20:14:10 (permalink)
As someone that works in IT, I can not express how bad of an idea it is to be using Windows 7 especially come Jan 14th 2020. Windows 7 Mainstream Support ended I think Jan 2015 and Extended Support ends Jan 14th, 2020. Mainstream support ending in 2015 means that Microsoft has not been adding new features, patching bugs, or releasing updates regarding system stability/compatibility for new hardware. When Extended Support ends Jan 14th 2020 it means that Microsoft will no longer be providing any new security updates. Typically for anyone that has to follow any type of regulations or compliance requirements this means that you will have to update by 2020 or you will be in violation of said regulations and compliance requirements (not sure this applies to anyone on this thread, but thought that I would add it for due diligence). 

Edit: 
And yes I know this thread is from like 2018... but I think its important to say this for future people that may come across this thread. 
post edited by jasoncodispoti - 2019/08/04 20:21:27

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Re: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on X299 Dark 2019/08/05 18:36:18 (permalink)
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As someone that works in IT, I can not express how bad of an idea it is to be using Windows 7 especially come Jan 14th 2020. Windows 7 Mainstream Support ended I think Jan 2015 and Extended Support ends Jan 14th, 2020. Mainstream support ending in 2015 means that Microsoft has not been adding new features, patching bugs, or releasing updates regarding system stability/compatibility for new hardware. When Extended Support ends Jan 14th 2020 it means that Microsoft will no longer be providing any new security updates. Typically for anyone that has to follow any type of regulations or compliance requirements this means that you will have to update by 2020 or you will be in violation of said regulations and compliance requirements (not sure this applies to anyone on this thread, but thought that I would add it for due diligence). 

Edit: 
And yes I know this thread is from like 2018... but I think its important to say this for future people that may come across this thread. 


If you don't like 10 and want updates you can use 8.1 with a classic start menu mod its support lasts until 2023.
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