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Wednesday, October 04, 2017 2:55 AM
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Has anyone affected by the high pitch fan noise with their FTW's come up with any solution or have any further thoughts on it? Are there any FTW owners out there who are not affected by this issue? I cannot use any sort of fan curve because these ear piercing hums are all over the rpm scale and have to run fixed speeds to avoid them. I am not convinced it is a resonance issue as EVGA suggest and am disappointed it's not something EVGA appear to want to investigate. Just thought I would put this back out there for discussion, it's really disappointing for a premium priced graphics card...
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Wednesday, October 04, 2017 6:27 PM
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:52 PM
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Obviously doesn't sound normal Some thoughts- Is this an open bench/case? Did you check each fan individually? If you pinch down on the cooler against the PCB does the noise change?
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:26 PM
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_Gir_ Obviously doesn't sound normal Some thoughts- Is this an open bench/case? Did you check each fan individually? If you pinch down on the cooler against the PCB does the noise change?
No it's not normal. No, everything is installed inside a Corsair Obsidian 450D... Check each fan individually for what? They do hum individually from each other so it is not a rpm imbalance between the fans causing the noise... Do you mean apply pressure on the shroud towards the PCB? Slight pressure on the shroud doesn't seem to alleviate the hum. I will try to upload a video. Edit: I captured the humming in this video and it is just the MEM fan running on it's own. I am adjusting the rpm in 1% increments where the tone changes slightly and sometimes adjusting to a rpm % where the hum drops away. https://www.youtube.com/w...4&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Wednesday, October 04, 2017 11:54 PM
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Checking each fan question was ID'ing if it was just one fan or multiple. I had fan noise on one of my 980TI coolers. So I gave them a recording of it and it was promptly RMA'd. Also, there is a technique of pushing down on the fan to "re-seat" the bearings but proceed at your own risk. I wouldn't go nuts trying to fix/lubricate it, just let the warranty do its thing.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 0:14 PM
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All I hear are fans running.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 0:29 PM
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_Gir_ Checking each fan question was ID'ing if it was just one fan or multiple. I had fan noise on one of my 980TI coolers. So I gave them a recording of it and it was promptly RMA'd. Also, there is a technique of pushing down on the fan to "re-seat" the bearings but proceed at your own risk. I wouldn't go nuts trying to fix/lubricate it, just let the warranty do its thing. I tried RMA'ing a couple of months ago and the replacement card had exactly the same issue :/ It definitely affects the fans individually as another owner complained in a thread not long ago here of the same issue but was affected only by his GPU fan instead. EVGA could not guarantee another replacement would be free of this issue and the cost of shipping these cards back and forth is kind of ridiculous. I would appreciate if EVGA could look into this further and perhaps acknowledge if there really is an issue or not. If there is and it can be addressed maybe then I would RNA again. I have thought of getting some replacement fans of Ebay to rule out if it is a problem with the fans themselves, they are Power Logic if you are interested. So how is this pushing down technique done exactly?
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 0:31 PM
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bcavnaugh All I hear are fans running.
Are you serious? I suggest you turn the volume up a bit...
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 0:37 PM
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I heard the humming. I believe the humming is normal. The procedure _Gir_ is talking about can be found here.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 2:32 AM
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Same issue I experienced with the Kingpin and the FTW3, only solution is to skip the offending frequencies, and hope EVGA invests more research into their product’s noise profiles and improve their fans down the road. I returned my products for this exact reason. Here’s the fan noise for the Kingpin around 1200rpm, I had this same noise on an FTW3. Note that the first few seconds the fans are off, and then I set them around 30% and move them up and down that range a little, and the noise is persistent: https://soundcloud.com/no...kingpin-fan-noise-edit
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:19 AM
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Sajin I heard the humming. I believe the humming is normal. The procedure _Gir_ is talking about can be found here.
How can a hum like that be normal? When a noise like that is highly alarming and distracting it can't be normal... Do you know what is making this noise? If it was a bearing misalignment that wouldn't be normal so I will try applying some pressure to the fan hubs.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:40 AM
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Sajin I heard the humming. I believe the humming is normal. The procedure _Gir_ is talking about can be found here.
How can a hum like that be normal? When a noise like that is highly alarming and distracting it can't be normal... Do you know what is making this noise? If it was a bearing misalignment that wouldn't be normal so I will try applying some pressure to the fan hubs.
It’s not caused by a sagging shroud so applying pressure won’t change anything. The hum is probably caused by a combination of the fans used and the heatsink design. EVGA does many things right, but they would benefit greatly from investing in better fan R&D, or just sourcing better parts. And in this instance, improving their QA process to catch these types of design flaws. :/
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:43 AM
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Notwist Same issue I experienced with the Kingpin and the FTW3, only solution is to skip the offending frequencies, and hope EVGA invests more research into their product’s noise profiles and improve their fans down the road. I returned my products for this exact reason.
Here’s the fan noise for the Kingpin around 1200rpm, I had this same noise on an FTW3. Note that the first few seconds the fans are off, and then I set them around 30% and move them up and down that range a little, and the noise is persistent:
https://soundcloud.com/no...kingpin-fan-noise-edit
Sounds exactly like mine Notwist, you can hear the hum drop away when you exit the offending rpm level. It seems unusual for a fan to make such a jarring noise and I have no idea what it is, but I think it is likely an issue with the fan itself, considering another owner with the issue was affected by the GPU fan only compared to my affected PWR and MEM fans but not the GPU fan. I too am hopeful that EVGA will seriously consider looking into this, I am really just looking for some sort of conclusion.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 5:12 AM
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It’s not caused by a sagging shroud so applying pressure won’t change anything.
The hum is probably caused by a combination of the fans used and the heatsink design. EVGA does many things right, but they would benefit greatly from investing in better fan R&D, or just sourcing better parts. And in this instance, improving their QA process to catch these types of design flaws. :/
I think you are probably right Notwist and if it really is a design flaw it's worrying that this made it through the QA process. EVGA do get things right I as the card does pretty much everything else perfectly but this is disappointing.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 05, 2017 3:43 PM
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bcavnaugh All I hear are fans running.
Are you serious? I suggest you turn the volume up a bit...
Yes, Yes I am and this is with the Volume 100% Speakers and on Headphones. Not everyone hears the same noise level as others hear. The older you get the less you hear. The Hybrid Kit Will Reduce the Noise Level you are hearing.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Saturday, October 07, 2017 1:45 AM
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bcavnaugh All I hear are fans running.
Are you serious? I suggest you turn the volume up a bit...
Yes, Yes I am and this is with the Volume 100% Speakers and on Headphones. Not everyone hears the same noise level as others hear. The older you get the less you hear. The Hybrid Kit Will Reduce the Noise Level you are hearing.
Well if you are hard of hearing that might explain things but I'm still surprised you cannot hear it and the fact is that everyone else here can hear it. Also I don't believe I should have to buy a water cooling kit to eliminate a noise issue with an air cooled card, it doesn't make sense. if I want an air cooled card I want an air cooled card. I would like to keep this matter under EVGA's attention as I don't think it is acceptable for a NZD $1370 graphics card. My hope was that EVGA might concede there is an issue or at least investigate it and provide an answer, reason and solution for the owners who are affected by this...
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:16 PM
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Is this a common issue? I'm thinking about getting one, but that noise is not something I would like to have on my case
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:51 PM
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Roicker Is this a common issue? I'm thinking about getting one, but that noise is not something I would like to have on my case
That is something I would very much like to know myself. Either it is a design flaw and some people have decided not to say anything or it is only some cards affected, maybe a bad batch of fans or something I don't know. I don't believe a single GPU fan can cause such a gyrating noise from resonance, it sounds more to me like a stuffed bearing noise...
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:51 AM
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Roicker Is this a common issue? I'm thinking about getting one, but that noise is not something I would like to have on my case
I have a FTW3 and do not have this issue. But some users have reported this issue another times (not the first thread about this if I'm correct).
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:44 AM
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Have it on my FTW3 too actually... Now I can pinpoint what it is that makes the card so much noisier than the Strix for example. The Noise starts when approaching 1175-1200 rpm. So annoying I wanted to switch to EVGA and already sold the Strix. So stupid. All the reviewers are like yeah it's so silent you can't hear it.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:18 AM
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Roicker Is this a common issue? I'm thinking about getting one, but that noise is not something I would like to have on my case
I have a FTW3 and do not have this issue.
But some users have reported this issue another times (not the first thread about this if I'm correct).
Would you be interested in sharing a video of your noiseless FTW3?
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:25 AM
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Snipes7 Have it on my FTW3 too actually... Now I can pinpoint what it is that makes the card so much noisier than the Strix for example. The Noise starts when approaching 1175-1200 rpm. So annoying I wanted to switch to EVGA and already sold the Strix. So stupid. All the reviewers are like yeah it's so silent you can't hear it.
When you say you've pinpointed what makes the noise what have you pinpointed? I'm confused, so annoying you wanted to switch to EVGA? Do you mean switch from EVGA to the Strix? The fans on the FTW3 are quiet when they're not making this noise and are an improvement in general GPU fan noise over previous generations but something has gone terribly wrong somewhere to be causing this noise. I am not necessarily ruling out it is a case by case resonance issue with particular user configurations, I'd just like more evidence...
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Friday, October 13, 2017 11:19 AM
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PietroBR
Roicker Is this a common issue? I'm thinking about getting one, but that noise is not something I would like to have on my case
I have a FTW3 and do not have this issue.
But some users have reported this issue another times (not the first thread about this if I'm correct).
Would you be interested in sharing a video of your noiseless FTW3?
Will do, and report back when I have it.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Friday, October 13, 2017 11:03 PM
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Superbxxx Hello! I had a similar problem whith my 780 classified....it was the fins that here loose...not the fans...try my "fix" : https://forums.evga.com/ACX-rattle-noise-problem-fix-m2018526.aspx Hope this helps!
Hi Super, Thanks for taking notice and sharing this. This is interesting. Bent heatsink fins have been mentioned but not loose heatsink fins. I could not find any obvious bent fins on my card but it was a pretty basic look over and in your case the loose fins were on the under side of the heatsink, so I think dismantling my card to look closer may be a good idea. How loose exactly were those fins? You describe it as a rattle which is usually more clunky, was it the same sort of noise as in my video or described? More of a high pitch hum. Some people describe it has air being blown across a bottle which would be very similar to air being blown across a loose heatsink fan I would imagine...
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Friday, October 13, 2017 11:21 PM
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Superbxxx Hello! I had a similar problem whith my 780 classified....it was the fins that here loose...not the fans...try my "fix" : https://forums.evga.com/ACX-rattle-noise-problem-fix-m2018526.aspx Hope this helps!
Hi Super, Thanks for taking notice and sharing this. This is interesting. Bent heatsink fins have been mentioned but not loose heatsink fins. I could not find any obvious bent fins on my card but it was a pretty basic look over and in your case the loose fins were on the under side of the heatsink, so I think dismantling my card to look closer may be a good idea. How loose exactly were those fins? You describe it as a rattle which is usually more clunky, was it the same sort of noise as in my video or described? More of a high pitch hum. Some people describe it has air being blown across a bottle which would be very similar to air being blown across a loose heatsink fan I would imagine...
Hi Graphite8five, No problem man, hope it helps. The fins are "similar" to a hair comb, with only a row of teeth. It is easy to see if they are loose or not because those that are not loose, are very fixed. With the cooler of the card pass your finger on the fins of the cooler and find out if are any fins loose that will create the rattle/noise at some rpm of the fans. In my case I find that the fins closer to the monitor ports were very loose. Just be gentle when doing this, you dont need lots of force. The sound was more or less the sort of noise as in your video. Best of luck and if you try this pelase share your findings.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Friday, October 13, 2017 11:43 PM
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Superbxxx Hi Graphite8five, No problem man, hope it helps. The fins are "similar" to a hair comb, with only a row of teeth. It is easy to see if they are loose or not because those that are not loose, are very fixed. With the cooler of the card pass your finger on the fins of the cooler and find out if are any fins loose that will create the rattle/noise at some rpm of the fans. In my case I find that the fins closer to the monitor ports were very loose. Just be gentle when doing this, you dont need lots of force. The sound was more or less the sort of noise as in your video. Best of luck and if you try this pelase share your findings.
Thanks Super. Yes I think I will try it, nothing to lose really and a good opportunity to whack some new TIM on to possibly get improved temps... Not sure when I will attempt it, I want to do it now but I should probably set aside a whole day. Will definitely report my findings though!
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:52 AM
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Superbxxx Hi Graphite8five, No problem man, hope it helps. The fins are "similar" to a hair comb, with only a row of teeth. It is easy to see if they are loose or not because those that are not loose, are very fixed. With the cooler of the card pass your finger on the fins of the cooler and find out if are any fins loose that will create the rattle/noise at some rpm of the fans. In my case I find that the fins closer to the monitor ports were very loose. Just be gentle when doing this, you dont need lots of force. The sound was more or less the sort of noise as in your video. Best of luck and if you try this pelase share your findings.
Thanks Super. Yes I think I will try it, nothing to lose really and a good opportunity to whack some new TIM on to possibly get improved temps... Not sure when I will attempt it, I want to do it now but I should probably set aside a whole day. Will definitely report my findings though! 
ok man. Hope it helps. You dont need a whole day, just one hour or 2.
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:41 AM
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Superbxxx ok man. Hope it helps. You dont need a whole day, just one hour or 2.
I'd had a look at some 1080 Ti FTW teardown's and I think it's just a matter of separating the heatsink from the board to get access to the under side of the heatsink, but would I need to replace the thermal pads before reassembling or just whack it back together? Edit: Were your loose fins around this corner section of the heatsink?
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Re: Solution to 1080 Ti FTW3 high pitch fan noise?
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EVGA coolers and inductors are rubbish.
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