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2019/09/09 15:23:35 (permalink)
Good day,
I very much want this hybrid cooler for my 2080ti xc.  (400-HY-1384-B1)   
However the only information I can find on it is that the product is discontinued at 3rd party retailers and the Evga website doesn't even list this anymore.   
 
What does that mean?   I find it hard to believe that the product would be discontinued so quickly yet they don't even list it....
Driving me nuts.   I seen the process of using a kraken x52 with a G12 kit and it just looks too risky in my opinion and ugly as sin.  
Am I hooped or what?   
 
Wish I could give that guy at memory express a good slap for telling me I could step up with this card when I purchased it when in fact I cannot step it up either.  
Temps on most titles are good but anything with Ray tracing (BF5 & more notably control) are turning my pc into an oven and I don't want that..
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/09 15:56:21 (permalink)
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    Good day,
    I very much want this hybrid cooler for my 2080ti xc.  (400-HY-1384-B1)   
    However the only information I can find on it is that the product is discontinued at 3rd party retailers and the Evga website doesn't even list this anymore.   
     
    What does that mean?   I find it hard to believe that the product would be discontinued so quickly yet they don't even list it....
    Driving me nuts.   I seen the process of using a kraken x52 with a G12 kit and it just looks too risky in my opinion and ugly as sin.  
    Am I hooped or what?   
     
    Wish I could give that guy at memory express a good slap for telling me I could step up with this card when I purchased it when in fact I cannot step it up either.  
    Temps on most titles are good but anything with Ray tracing (BF5 & more notably control) are turning my pc into an oven and I don't want that..




    Any card you have thats running Ray Tracing and DLSS is going to heat up quickly, the higher your resolution is set will make it happen faster yet, alot of people were surprised to see that particular hybrid kit go out of stock and basically disappear as well. If you can't find the hybrid kit, and really want to push your card better with lower temps i would suggest go with a water block instead and set up a custom loop, more trouble yes but better performance and cooling in the long run is what your after so its still worth it. 

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/09 16:08:00 (permalink)
    The Kraken kit + a list of compatible NZXT/Corsair, etc AIOs will work fine.  You could make it look nice with a fancy RGB AIO and possibly a strip of RBGs. :P  You should get great temps with a 240mm AIO.
     
    As for the Hybrid, I've heard it comes and goes but check eBay from a trusted source for one otherwise you'll have to stick with the only option left, NZXT Kit or as DW alluded too, a custom loop which can be costly if you don't have one already setup.

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/09 17:39:06 (permalink)
    Yeah I don't have one set up and I'm not overly interested as I will have to purchase a new case. Just irks me I want the evga kit for many reasons.  The kraken setup is rough looking compared to evgas and it scares me stripping down the card and making it look ratty ass with the G12 but sounds like I'm pretty well f'd if I want to set up a clc setup when it comes to evgas parts. 
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/09 18:16:18 (permalink)
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    Yeah I don't have one set up and I'm not overly interested as I will have to purchase a new case. Just irks me I want the evga kit for many reasons.  The kraken setup is rough looking compared to evgas and it scares me stripping down the card and making it look ratty ass with the G12 but sounds like I'm pretty well f'd if I want to set up a clc setup when it comes to evgas parts. 




    Honestly, Kraken Kits don't look all that bad actually.  While I enjoy Corsair AIOs, I like Krakens flashy AIO housing.  The only issue with some is, running multiple software but you can always set things and forget.
     
    Here are a few examples.


     



     
     
    At the end of the day, they aren't so bad and you will get better performance if matched with the right rad and fans.

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/09 19:43:19 (permalink)
    That does actually look pretty slick,  Is that a strip behind the lettering and what not on the first and second picture do you know?  Sorry. 
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/10 09:28:14 (permalink)
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    That does actually look pretty slick,  Is that a strip behind the lettering and what not on the first and second picture do you know?  Sorry. 



    Yes. I believe these were slightly modified with a strip behind them connected to the MB's RGB header.

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/13 10:35:45 (permalink)
    Okay so I went ahead and did this with the 2080ti xc, Results are good enough for me. 

    BF5 Max settings - 3840x2160 - Ray Tracing on Ultra & DLSS Enabled
    Before Kraken X52 CLC - Temps as high as 78 deg with prolonged play but usually in the low to mid 70s.   
    55-60 FPS

    Same settings now with CLC installed,  Did not see a temp higher than 53 deg C last night with all settings the same.   
    Easily dropped 20-25 deg C with the installation of this cooler.   More than happy with that.  Going to play with a little OC tonight and see what I can do.  
     
    Wanted to get temps from Control since I had even seen the 80 deg mark with this title but was having issues with my OSD through both Cam and Afterburner (Never had issues with afterburner before so must be conflicting now with Cam).   Cam was crashing my games completely trying to initiate the overlay so its good to see that program still sucks for the most part.
     
    I'm running an i7-8700 & the rtx 2080ti in a corsair crystal x460 case with now both a Evga CLC for my cpu and the CLC on my gpu.   Shes tight in there.
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/13 20:54:19 (permalink)
    Those are great temps.  

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/23 15:08:17 (permalink)
    Does anyone know if the kraken blocks the sli port?
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/09/23 17:27:26 (permalink)
    It does not
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/04 00:32:26 (permalink)
    Any pics of your rig with the new setup? I have the same 460x case and have the 2280-Kr blower style 2080Ti and it already overclocks like a beast for a Founders board card! Also got it for $700 on facebook locally, And I'm thinking the G12 will have to be what I end up doing. Since these hybrid kits are all but totally gone now. That LED strip thing looked pretty good! and did you say you used the EVGA 240mm CLC cpu cooler and just took the cpu bracket off and put it in the G12 mount? Anyway would love to see a pic/pics for reference plz and thanks.
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/04 00:39:53 (permalink)
    Also I have a 360mm Asetek CPU cooler in there right now for my 7700k, and it keeps temps in the mid 60's with a 5ghz OC... So I don't wanna get rid of that, but I fear the 240mm for the GPU may or may not fit at the top with the loops of the 360 coming out the top towards the mobo. If they both fit that's the ideal setup as the 240m should provide way better cooling than just a standard 120m. Let me know what you think!πŸ˜ŠπŸ€™πŸ»
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/04 04:04:28 (permalink)
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    Also I have a 360mm Asetek CPU cooler in there right now for my 7700k, and it keeps temps in the mid 60's with a 5ghz OC... So I don't wanna get rid of that, but I fear the 240mm for the GPU may or may not fit at the top with the loops of the 360 coming out the top towards the mobo. If they both fit that's the ideal setup as the 240m should provide way better cooling than just a standard 120m. Let me know what you think!πŸ˜ŠπŸ€™πŸ»



    A 360mm AIO in the front with a 240mm at the top should fit but than again, find out first before making the move as you're currently doing.  
     
    Edit:  After doing a consider amount of research, I was only able to find these AIO setups with your current case.


     

     
    It does look like a tight fit.  I was wondering if you're able to install the front fans in front of the case/filter behind the front glass.  Not sure if that will impede the side intakes and if you're still able to install them behind the glass with the front 360mm radiator installed.
     
    It does look if you swapped out that 360mm CPU AIO for both a 240mm for the CPU and GPU, it should fit but you'd need to make sure your RAM is cleared at the top.
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/04 10:41:32 (permalink)
    Yeah idk man... I'll have to do some measurements and see, the only thing I could think is flip the 240mm at the top and make the loops come down by the exhaust fan rather than at the front. May work then, and maybe I might even be able to push my 360mm in the front down a bit for clearance of the tubes. If not a 120mm is still okay I guess, but from research it seems the 240mm takes temps from like 65c on the 120's to about 50c on the 240's! That's some worth while shizz to have if I can make it work.

    P.S.
    Had an MSI Seahawk 1080Ti 120mm hybrid in there prior to the 2080Ti, and had it mounted at the exhaust fan just fine. Used a few corsair ML120 fans in the front and back of the rad for additional cooling support for the rad and it fit fine. But selling my 1080Ti for $500 on ebay after snagging the $700 2080Ti was just soooo worth it IMO!! And I didn't care about temps of an air cooled card, but now I want to not run 80c on every game.πŸ˜‚ (Not even OC'd lol)
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/04 18:17:43 (permalink)
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    Had an MSI Seahawk 1080Ti 120mm hybrid in there prior to the 2080Ti, and had it mounted at the exhaust fan just fine. Used a few corsair ML120 fans in the front and back of the rad for additional cooling support for the rad and it fit fine. But selling my 1080Ti for $500 on ebay after snagging the $700 2080Ti was just soooo worth it IMO!! And I didn't care about temps of an air cooled card, but now I want to not run 80c on every game.πŸ˜‚ (Not even OC'd lol)
     



    I think that was a great deal tbh and adding a AIO cooler to it is a wise move.  Just have to take time figuring out which configuration will work best for you.  

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/08 14:10:48 (permalink)
    I did as an emergency mount BeQuiet AIO 280 that I had had lying at home . Plus 2 fans that blow on PWM and RAM.
    Does not look super nice and chic but it works nice - max 48-49C temp at load.
    Looks EVGA missed the point with small XC cooler for 2080ti this time - too weak and too noisy.
    And hybrid kits are gone - what makes me wonder is the fact that FTW3 kit can be bought but the Ref one no...
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/09 08:52:31 (permalink)
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    I did as an emergency mount BeQuiet AIO 280 that I had had lying at home . Plus 2 fans that blow on PWM and RAM.
    Does not look super nice and chic but it works nice - max 48-49C temp at load.
    Looks EVGA missed the point with small XC cooler for 2080ti this time - too weak and too noisy.
    And hybrid kits are gone - what makes me wonder is the fact that FTW3 kit can be bought but the Ref one no...


    Yeah No joke!! I mean I called them and told them, to no avail but whatevs, get your stuff together EVGA... I literally told you the 1384 2080ti ref kits are selling for 300$ USED!! on ebay and if they got off their asses and made some more they'd make a killing, and in the least def sell through how many ever they decided to manufacture. But whatever another case of sales departments dropping the ball, cause their employees are to lazy... And it takes a simple google search to see these coolers are in MEGA demand, but again... Whatevs EVGAπŸ™„ SMDH.
    post edited by Sajin - 2019/10/09 14:45:53
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/11 12:20:24 (permalink)
    They want to make more dough from FTW3 and Kingpin-)
    XC and REF - bye bye

    Corporate thinking . Excel sheets and profit. And definitely no explanation from . EVGA as to why they dropped the ball...
    I am never going to buy XC model again - you have to invest in another cooler right away !!
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/11 12:48:34 (permalink)
    Limited production of Any item:
    1) Marketing tells engineering: how Many @ what cost
    2) Molds are designed with unit count, cost & timeline, in mind
    3) Minimum orders & lead time from the Mfg are worked into the process
    4) Corp resources are also a constraint on number of SKUs to carry in inventory
     
    The Hybrid Coolers have always sold out in past generation GPUs
     
    Most members have learned to grab one as soon as they are available
     
    Only EVGA knows if more are on order

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 09:11:25 (permalink)
    Well, you are right , but the manufacture cost/ price ratio with the Hybrid must be excellent.. my point was why Is EVGA selling RTX 2080ti behemoth big chip with a lame and weak XC cooler that was not able to cool properly the GTX1080.

    Hence OK, why not or enable to those , who are willing to go an extra mile, to invest and mount up a better cooling.?

    Do not get e wrong, my card can do 2160, but I have to cool it properly. With the XC cooler it runs superhot and max 1980 or so..
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 12:07:13 (permalink)
    famich
    Well, you are right , but the manufacture cost/ price ratio with the Hybrid must be excellent.. my point was why Is EVGA selling RTX 2080ti behemoth big chip with a lame and weak XC cooler that was not able to cool properly the GTX1080.

    Hence OK, why not or enable to those , who are willing to go an extra mile, to invest and mount up a better cooling.?

    Do not get e wrong, my card can do 2160, but I have to cool it properly. With the XC cooler it runs superhot and max 1980 or so..



    My 2080Ti XC Gaming cooled OK, high 60's with 90% fans (not that loud) and 115% power limit.  56C in Unigine Heaven at 100% power, max fans.  That's with a 120mm fan blowing across the front from the end.  The people who can't keep these cards cool-ish either have front AIO radiators choking off case air flow, other air flow problems, or bad TIM.  That said I did get a solid 10C to 20C improvement with an optimized push pull hybrid setup, especially at max power.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/10/12 12:10:42
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 14:11:30 (permalink)
    I had those temps on a benchtable- IMHO the XC cooler is lame for 2080ti.
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 15:18:04 (permalink)
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    I had those temps on a benchtable- IMHO the XC cooler is lame for 2080ti.



    It's literally the base level cooler, your expectations are too high. It works plenty well at stock power levels.
     
    People go around trashing it for no good reason, or they have it set up poorly.
     
    It's better than the blower if that makes you feel any better.
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 17:53:49 (permalink)
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    famich
    I had those temps on a benchtable- IMHO the XC cooler is lame for 2080ti.



    It's literally the base level cooler, your expectations are too high. It works plenty well at stock power levels.
     
    People go around trashing it for no good reason, or they have it set up poorly.
     
    It's better than the blower if that makes you feel any better.




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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 20:10:07 (permalink)
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    Good day,
    I very much want this hybrid cooler for my 2080ti xc.  (400-HY-1384-B1)   
    However the only information I can find on it is that the product is discontinued at 3rd party retailers and the Evga website doesn't even list this anymore.   
     
    What does that mean?   I find it hard to believe that the product would be discontinued so quickly yet they don't even list it....
    Driving me nuts.   I seen the process of using a kraken x52 with a G12 kit and it just looks too risky in my opinion and ugly as sin.  
    Am I hooped or what?   
     
    Wish I could give that guy at memory express a good slap for telling me I could step up with this card when I purchased it when in fact I cannot step it up either.  
    Temps on most titles are good but anything with Ray tracing (BF5 & more notably control) are turning my pc into an oven and I don't want that..




    I have a 2080 ti hybrid and I'm not even close to happy with the performance, the 120mm AIO is not enough to keep the card cool.
    The best advice I can give you is to buy the G12 Kraken and maybe the 360mm AIO from NZXT. You really want to keep the GPU cool, it will give you much better overclock speeds and stability. The EVGA hybrid kit is just expensive garbage.
     
    I'll leave the link of a previous post I made showing EVGA's "quality standards" for premium components:
     
    https://forums.evga.com/Its-me-again-the-guy-complaining-about-high-temps-with-2080Ti-FTW3-Hybrid-m2997161.aspx
    post edited by fdolopez11 - 2019/10/12 20:13:39
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 21:57:09 (permalink)
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    Good day,
    I very much want this hybrid cooler for my 2080ti xc.  (400-HY-1384-B1)   
    However the only information I can find on it is that the product is discontinued at 3rd party retailers and the Evga website doesn't even list this anymore.   
     
    What does that mean?   I find it hard to believe that the product would be discontinued so quickly yet they don't even list it....
    Driving me nuts.   I seen the process of using a kraken x52 with a G12 kit and it just looks too risky in my opinion and ugly as sin.  
    Am I hooped or what?   
     
    Wish I could give that guy at memory express a good slap for telling me I could step up with this card when I purchased it when in fact I cannot step it up either.  
    Temps on most titles are good but anything with Ray tracing (BF5 & more notably control) are turning my pc into an oven and I don't want that..




    I have a 2080 ti hybrid and I'm not even close to happy with the performance, the 120mm AIO is not enough to keep the card cool.
    The best advice I can give you is to buy the G12 Kraken and maybe the 360mm AIO from NZXT. You really want to keep the GPU cool, it will give you much better overclock speeds and stability. The EVGA hybrid kit is just expensive garbage.
     
    I'll leave the link of a previous post I made showing EVGA's "quality standards" for premium components:
     
    https://forums.evga.com/Its-me-again-the-guy-complaining-about-high-temps-with-2080Ti-FTW3-Hybrid-m2997161.aspx




    That's too bad.  I just played STEEP for a couple hours, on my lower gaming setting, was getting a stable 2055mhz at 1.062v, average 100% or so power with peaks to 130%, 85% average use with peaks to 99%, temps stable 49C.  4k 60hz vsync, ultra low latency setting, all game max settings except msaa 4x+.  That's with push pull A12 fans at 1800rpm and a 10.5v pump on intake air flow.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/10/12 22:02:35
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 23:38:51 (permalink)
    Well,that is interesting.@ fdolopez11.

    My point is that 2080ti chip is too big and complex and hot for the XC.
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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/12 23:58:25 (permalink)
    famich
    Well,that is interesting.@ fdolopez11.

    My point is that 2080ti chip is too big and complex and hot for the XC.



    If you think this is bad, actually it's an improvement, you should look back many past generations.    Many cards in the day were all blowers.  The dual/triple fan GPUs started showing face in this decade iirc.  If you wanted better cooling, you went custom water cooling but nowadays you can get away with it with a decent AIO setup but of course not as good as custom H20.

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    Re: Evga 400-HY-1384-B1 2019/10/14 09:23:09 (permalink)
    Right, my Silent Loop is working fine. For the time being I got no room for a big custom WC.
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