fdolopez11
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believe I just found the root cause. I'm no expert but I think this is not how it's supposed to be See the images: All I can say is SHAME ON YOU EVGA.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 20:01:09
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Well that solves it. Btw. Your images aren't posting
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 20:13:02
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Delirious Well that solves it. Btw. Your images aren't posting
I was able to upload one picture, I don't know why it's not letting me to upload the rest. Definitely this is not what you can expect from a $1400 gpu
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 20:25:10
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 21:04:54
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Yeah that really sucks, I went and read your previous posts, its not surprising that the problem was bad TIM. On the bright side it sounds like you've got a good setup and should now get really good temps. Put the replacement TIM on thicker than you would think - when I did my hybrid I think I used all the the included TIM on the block, then spread a thin layer plus a rice sized dot of MX-4 on the chip itself. Maybe complain to EVGA and get them to give you a free extended 5 or 10 year warranty.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 21:09:21
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Cool GTX Bad TIM application - or - the cooler was Not sitting flat on the GPU Die there is a Limit - on the Total size of "All photos" in 1 Post - think its ~ 512k Ultimate Self-Starter Thread For New Members
I Reuploaded a new photo to show both conditions on the DIE and the Cooler plate. The plate definitely was not sitting correctly and it was not making contact at all kevinc313 Yeah that really sucks, I went and read your previous posts, its not surprising that the problem was bad TIM. On the bright side it sounds like you've got a good setup and should now get really good temps. Put the replacement TIM on thicker than you would think. Maybe complain to EVGA and get them to give you a free extended 5 or 10 year warranty.
The most awkward thing that I found was the thermal paste, it looked old and dry. My old temps were a nightmare, after two benchmark runs on shadow of the tomb raider I was above 76C. I just did the same trial again and got 62C. Not as low as I wanted but it's definitely better. Now I just have to swap my pull fan for one with the same airflow and speed as the push fan.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 21:27:05
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Glad your getting better temps Bad TIM jobs happen ... even one of my Nvidia Titan X Pascals ... bad factory job, missed part of the Die
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/04 22:09:48
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fdolopez11 The most awkward thing that I found was the thermal paste, it looked old and dry. My old temps were a nightmare, after two benchmark runs on shadow of the tomb raider I was above 76C. I just did the same trial again and got 62C. Not as low as I wanted but it's definitely better. Now I just have to swap my pull fan for one with the same airflow and speed as the push fan.
Nice improvements and more inline with the average AIO user. Getting into the 50c will take more tweaking involved but it's possible.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 06:36:03
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That's why the hydro ftw3 block is best for that card!
I have 1 that was used for 2 weeks before swapping it out for a Kingpin. Sitting there in a box for many months now waiting for my lazy but to sell.
That single 120mm rad ain't cutting it. You should be down in the 40s.. with proper water cooling.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 07:10:34
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ShinEtsu TIM always looks dry and old. I would assume that EVGA is still using shinetsu on the hybrid blocks, so that may have been the cause of how it looked.
Glad you found the root cause and was able to reapply and get better temps.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 08:11:18
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This is normal..... almost every manufacturer/distributor has this slop problem. Thats why most of the enthusiast guys will test the card to make sure it works when they get it, then pull it out and take it apart, clean it all, lap it good and polish then re-TIM with much better TIM. Its just how it is. Ive been here complaining, and others, since 2006 so believe me when i tell you this, theres nothing that can be done about it. Your def welcome to try though.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 08:17:23
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☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2019/10/05 08:59:42
wmmills This is normal..... almost every manufacturer/distributor has this slop problem. Thats why most of the enthusiast guys will test the card to make sure it works when they get it, then pull it out and take it apart, clean it all, lap it good and polish then re-TIM with much better TIM. Its just how it is. Ive been here complaining, and others, since 2006 so believe me when i tell you this, theres nothing that can be done about it. Your def welcome to try though.
The thermal paste was not the only problem, the cooler was not installed correctly too, it was not making the proper contact with the die. I used Arctic MX-4 and now playing GTA V at 4K60fps I went down from 65C to 54C.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 08:59:25
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Sweet temps
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 09:08:22
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There was nothing wrong with that TIM application. It wasn't "old and dry". The only problem was uneven mounting pressure. The TIM is purposely manufactured that way and is supposed to be "old and dry" looking. It lasts longer that way. It is thicker so that it will last during the entire duration of the product's warranty. There is a GamersNexus video with Der8auer on this subject. All OEM systems use similar "old and dry" looking thermal paste for the same reason. The higher-performance thinner paste you replaced it with will not last as long. The thinner higher-performance paste will cool better, but "wears out" quicker. You will want to change your new thinner paste at least once a year in order to maintain thermal performance. And regarding "slopping it on", there is almost no such thing as too much thermal paste. If there is enough mounting pressure, the "too much" paste will just squeeze out and pose no problem. It is only possible to have too much paste if the paste is harmful to the electronics nearby, or there is virtually no mounting pressure. The one hour "cure" some pastes need is simply an hour of heat needed to thin out the paste so that the mounting pressure can squeeze out the excess. When people say that thermal paste wears out or turns "dry" after one year, it is actually simply "pump-out" affect where the thinnest constituents of of the thermal paste squeeze out over time, and the paste loses thermal performance as voids form. Thicker pastes, which OEMs use, take longer to "pump-out" and that is why the OEMs need to use it so that the paste will last the duration of the product's warranty, even if the thicker pastes that they use don't have quite as good of short-term thermal performance. In conclusion, there was nothing wrong with the paste, it was only a mounting pressure issue, and there is a lot of wrong and misleading beliefs about thermal paste among enthusiasts.
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Re: It's me again, the guy complaining about high temps with 2080Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2019/10/05 10:14:36
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Waterblock with custom loop, and applying your own TIM is always the preferred method! Temps stay at about 36-42C max depending on the loading. Cheers
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