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2019/05/27 06:50:54 (permalink)
Hi guys

Before that i have used Xc ultra hybrid which could pass the 2100mhz on the gpu clock with +125mhz oc , i also bought xc gaming 2080 for my brother and it also works at 2050mhz with +125mhz oc.

But today i have received ftw3 ultra 2080 ti but i could not understand what i paid that 1350$ for.

With +135 core clock it just runs at 2010 mhz and downs to 1990mhz core clock.

Voltage is maxed out
Power target is maxed out whoch is %124
Gpu temp is maxed out 87°C

What am i doing wrong?

Its bios version is 90.02.17.00.73

Is there anything i should do?

If i knew that was going to be like this i would definitely buy one of the another cheaper version of the Evga 2080 ti.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 07:11:06 (permalink)
    Yes you should watercool it :)

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 08:00:06 (permalink)
    Try afterburner! Set overclock by the curve method. Little bars left of the clock on the screen. Then grab the 1.093v dot and raise it to the clock you want to try and press control L then hit apply on AB.

    Test..

    Set fan speeds in PX1 first to static speed 80-100% first and hit apply and close it. Then open ab.

    Make sure to go threw the ab menu first to unlock voltage control first and set up the osd to show everything you want shown first.

    Point.. you cant force a set voltage in PX1. But you can in afterburner.. so px1 is using too low of voltage to boost to high clocks.

    Yes the cooler the card the lower the clocks.. so max all 3 fans set to static fans for games and benches.. 2190-2205 was do able when I got the temp to 36-39c.. with hydro water block. Wont get that with there hybrid cooler. People report upper 50-60s with the hybrid.. small rad not good enough.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 08:18:02 (permalink)

     
     
     
     
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 12:17:17 (permalink)
    water cooling will solve the problem.
    I have the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra and the hybrid version of the cards and the hybrid runs at 2145 MHz  when crunching SETI at Home @ 46 C consistantly, the air cooled
    around 1990 to 2020 around 50 C.
    I bought the EVGA Hydro Copper for the air cooled card but have not installed it yet.
    I will be interesting what the different's will be between that and the hybrid.


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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 12:32:48 (permalink)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 11G-P4-2487-KR,
     
    Advertised Speed of GPU by EVGA  ---> 1755MHz Boost Clock
     
    Silicon lottery effect .... every Chip, circuit board & PC can get different results
     
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 12:56:08 (permalink)
    You paid for a factory overclock, you paid for a 3 fan cooler, you paid for a triple slot card, you paid for dual vbios support, you paid for an improved vrm, you paid for a higher power target.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 20:31:47 (permalink)
    This is my Time Spy result

    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36407281?



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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 20:36:56 (permalink)
    This is the screen shot from gpu-z in the first 30 seconds.


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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 20:40:16 (permalink)
    with liquid cooling, how is it going to get higher clocks? i mean, i am already at the limit for the gpu clock? anything higher than +130mhz will crash?



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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 21:08:52 (permalink)
    I was getting 160mhz on the core with air cooling and I put it on water cooling and the only thing it did was make clocks more stable. As I now run clocks at 140mhz core and 900mhz memory for gaming with temps around 50C average depending on room temp. Still can't pass 165mhz core in 3DMark TimeSpy even with voltage at 1.093.

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 21:29:42 (permalink)
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    with liquid cooling, how is it going to get higher clocks? i mean, i am already at the limit for the gpu clock? anything higher than +130mhz will crash?

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/27 21:40:11 (permalink)
    This sounds like my first ftw3 card (rmad because of serious coil whine issue loud enough to be faintly heard through closed doors lol). I had +120 on core and +500 on memory (would crash with more memory OC). With +120 its max boost was 2100, with +150 its max boost was still 2100 even with 165 (unstable with more on core) it was still stuck at 2100 max core. With my current ftw3, it can do 2115 (2130 for benchmarks), anything more and it crashes though.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 11:44:08 (permalink)
    Did you run the auto scan to get the +130 on your GPU ?

    Test with GPU +100
    Test with Memory @ +900
     
    Remember Nvidia Boost 4.0 will Override -- has the last word - follows an algorithm for Power & OC & Temp
     
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 13:57:06 (permalink)
    This is the worst card ihave had in terms of the overclocking capabilities for sure.There is nothing okay with the card.it just runs at 1995-2010mhz.Spending that much money for this , is definitely unacceptable.The guaranteed speeds are already achived by any of the 2080 ti on the market.So why would i pay for that amount of money , i just cant get it.I am sorry but there should be some limitations at that price range.Those kind of cards should be tested before being sold to customers.At least we can be sure what we paid for.

    Having power target increased or vrm cooling etc really dont mean anything to me.I just look at the performance i gain for the money i spent.Be honest and tell me please , who would pay that amount of money for the vrm cooling or increased power target instead of a real performance gain?

    I can barely hold on to the 2010mhz with +130mhz on core clock. This should be kind a joke.
    post edited by Spirit_Rises - 2019/05/28 14:51:20
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 15:31:24 (permalink)
    Did you even try using afterburner to overclock using the curve method I mentioned? I'm guessing the voltage is holding you back.

    Yes power limit matters.. and once you remove the temp limit with water cooling, you would quickly come to understand the power limit would be the next obstacle to tackle.

    Both my evga ftw3 1080yi elite card and 2080ti ftw3 ultra cards both sucked hard on air cooling. Room temps were low in the cold basement as well.

    Both were like totally different high end cards once one water with low temps of 32-34c max on the 1080ti and 36-39c on the 2080ti.

    Neither wanted to overclock on air! I'm talking period. And I know cause ea card was used again on air after having them on water!

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 16:11:18 (permalink)
    It's really simple after reading your first post Spirit.  Your temps are holding back the GPU's OC potential.  If you're not willing to go under custom liquid cooling, I'd advise going into Hybrid cooling.  The pump might be of a nuisance dependent on it's noise but your temps should improve drastically. 

    What's your ambient air in celsius?
     
    What case are you using? 
     
    Have a side shot of your insides to see if you were to go hybrid, where you could install the rad?

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 22:57:41 (permalink)
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    It's really simple after reading your first post Spirit.  Your temps are holding back the GPU's OC potential.  If you're not willing to go under custom liquid cooling, I'd advise going into Hybrid cooling.  The pump might be of a nuisance dependent on it's noise but your temps should improve drastically. 

    What's your ambient air in celsius?
     
    What case are you using? 
     
    Have a side shot of your insides to see if you were to go hybrid, where you could install the rad?




    But for the first seconds of the games or benchmarks with the +125 core clock when the temps are around 45°C it can  only boost up to 2055mhz and then dropx down to 2040mhz aftter 48°C
     
    is that normal for those temps? i mean if i could able to see like 2100mhz on 45°C or 46°C degrees i would definitely say that the problem is the air cooling.But i just start from 2055mhz at 46°C with +125 core clock.It is on manual overclock not even boosted by itself.

    I will post a video while benchmarking in the first seconds.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 23:25:56 (permalink)
    I have rendered a video and it finished the job at 39 degrees and boosted up to 2070mhz.This is what i will get when i install Hydro copper or hybrid and doubt about staying at 40 degrees.And it was consuming 111watt.When it hits 370 watts it will get hotter.I think this card is very hard to overclock one.





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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 23:53:47 (permalink)

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/28 23:58:01 (permalink)
    Just one question from me because I am curious... what are your clocks without OC? With the power limit maxed out.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 00:50:32 (permalink)
    This is the stock settings max voltage , max power target and max temp settings applied.No overclock on gpu and memory



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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 02:56:23 (permalink)
    Along with all the features of your high end card, you also bought a ticket to the silicon lottery for your GPU.

    Looks like you lost. Welcome to the game.

    Watercooling may help the card open up a bit more in terms of stability. But it probably won’t affect your max clocks.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 05:37:39 (permalink)
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    Along with all the features of your high end card, you also bought a ticket to the silicon lottery for your GPU.

    Looks like you lost. Welcome to the game.

    Watercooling may help the card open up a bit more in terms of stability. But it probably won’t affect your max clocks.


    Yes you are right.What i am pissed of is that the every other Tis can hit that 2ghz core clock right out of the box and mine which supposed to has more overclock room has the lowest clocks even it is overclocked maually.

    I have put my brother's RTX 2080 XC Gaming model card back and it can hit 2100mhz core clock easily.So again what did i pay for 1630$ including taxes? or 

    Why did i pay that amount of money? what for? to have my 3 slots get disabled ? 

    that is beyond the silicon lottery.This is something else as it runs much more slower than the entry level Tis and costs much more than them.So i will not accept the answer Silicon lottery.If it could run even at 2050mhz i will shut up and play but it just down clocks to 1900mhz with +130 core clock.This is a joke that should never placed in that custom pcb boards.

    I will play at much more slower speeds and also i will pay more electricity bill, anyone just basically laughs at that.
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 05:55:21 (permalink)
    As with every company (you'll have the same chance/lottery no matter who you go with) you pays your money and takes your chances...
     
    My card only does about 120 core and about 800 Memory.
     
    Then again, I have more VRAM...I don't know...to me it's just the luck of the draw...
     

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 06:03:31 (permalink)
    It sucks losing the silicon lottery. I've lost to it before when buying the premium card as well.
     
    I stepped up to a RTX 2080 Ti XC Black this time. On air it was getting really hot and could only get in the high 1900s. I just got done building my first water loop and just got it to pass at 2160mhz

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 06:05:06 (permalink)
    All about temps. I'm sure many cards on air will clock down to 1900's after a min or 2.

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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 08:01:53 (permalink)
    I feel your pain. I've had 2 high-end cards from EVGA (FW3 Ultra and XC Ultra) and both were like yours. Max clocks were 1995-2010MHz. Return it or sell it locally and try again. After 2 cards I gave up on EVGA and went to another brand. My new video card does 2070/8200 at 61C. It's not above average but I'm happy with the OC. It does 2100MHz at 48C. 
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    Re: Evga 2080 TI FTW3 ULTRA what did i pay for? 2019/05/29 08:06:08 (permalink)
    Send the card to me quick while I can slap the ftw3 hydro copper block on while I wait for the kingpin block.. I'll test it and clock it over 2190+ with ease. All about temps.

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