coldrain85

scinceday1

kissTheApex
Well, the key take away for me was the 50,000 GPUs YTD (when article was written) sold on the bay and stock-x (whatever that is). An average “profit” of (very modest) $300 per card equates to $15,000,000 US.

Now, I can’t fault people to try to make a quick buck, but let’s make no mistake, if folks are buying those up, which they clearly are, they’re the enablers in this equation.

How this all relates to the queue is simple. The queue gives you a choice of two things; do you want to join the enablers and pay a premium to get your card now, or do you have the luxury and patience to wait however many months to get a card at MSRP?

This enabler talk is bull we need to stop shaming the consumer. Scalping is a by product of a failure on the supplier not the consumer. Stopping scalping should not be put on the shoulders of people trying to buy cards it is entirely the fault of the supplier. If cards were available there would be no scalping. We are way past the point of trying to stop scalping. Get your cards any way you can you are not enabling scalping it is going to exist with or without you.

You are assuming that the supplier has the ability to produce a greater supply of what people are scalping. The fact that a venue owner only has so many front row seats at a concert isn't a "failure" on their part. The failure is the system that enables scalping, and yes, that includes the consumer. It also includes the scalper, middlemen like Stubhub, and DC politicians who sure do like getting those court side seats for the NCAA playoffs.
 
Look, if people were not paying scalpers, they would not exist. I don't agree with your last sentence. You are putting the cart before the horse. The consumers are holding the money. They have the power, not scalpers.

Larac
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:31:02 AM PT Yes

So a young lady is going to be very happy.


Still waiting on a 3080 or 3090 for myself.

scinceday1

coldrain85

scinceday1

kissTheApex
Well, the key take away for me was the 50,000 GPUs YTD (when article was written) sold on the bay and stock-x (whatever that is). An average “profit” of (very modest) $300 per card equates to $15,000,000 US.

Now, I can’t fault people to try to make a quick buck, but let’s make no mistake, if folks are buying those up, which they clearly are, they’re the enablers in this equation.

How this all relates to the queue is simple. The queue gives you a choice of two things; do you want to join the enablers and pay a premium to get your card now, or do you have the luxury and patience to wait however many months to get a card at MSRP?

This enabler talk is bull we need to stop shaming the consumer. Scalping is a by product of a failure on the supplier not the consumer. Stopping scalping should not be put on the shoulders of people trying to buy cards it is entirely the fault of the supplier. If cards were available there would be no scalping. We are way past the point of trying to stop scalping. Get your cards any way you can you are not enabling scalping it is going to exist with or without you.

You are assuming that the supplier has the ability to produce a greater supply of what people are scalping. The fact that a venue owner only has so many front row seats at a concert isn't a "failure" on their part. The failure is the system that enables scalping, and yes, that includes the consumer. It also includes the scalper, middlemen like Stubhub, and DC politicians who sure do like getting those court side seats for the NCAA playoffs.
 
Look, if people were not paying scalpers, they would not exist. I don't agree with your last sentence. You are putting the cart before the horse. The consumers are holding the money. They have the power, not scalpers.

 
I am not saying they have the ability to make more cards but I am saying they have the ability of bots being able to buy cards and for launching a product when they have no means of meeting demand. For the record I do not like scalpers I am waiting in the que just like everyone else but I do not blame anyone for buying a scalped card. Trying to stop people from buying scalped cards if they can afford them is never ever going to work I understand your reasoning and while it may be a noble cause  it is not realistic. The solution has to come from the supplier by implementing anti scalping measures which it is too late for this time but maybe next time around.
 

kissTheApex

scinceday1
This enabler talk is bull we need to stop shaming the consumer. Scalping is a by product of a failure on the supplier not the consumer. Stopping scalping should not be put on the shoulders of people trying to buy cards it is entirely the fault of the supplier. If cards were available there would be no scalping. We are way past the point of trying to stop scalping. Get your cards any way you can you are not enabling scalping it is going to exist with or without you.

Where did you get that I’m shaming anyone? All I said was to the effect of “some folk have the luxury and/or patience to wait for the queue”. I myself spent money on new simracing pedals while I could have put some elbow grease and diy’ed my 16 year old boutique pedals to load cell and Hall effects sensors for less than half the cost I paid for a “turn key” solution, so I’m probably the last one who should be judging...

But whatever makes you feel better.

Too much angst in this thread..

mlaningham
I just got an email for the 3060 XC Gaming.  My time was 11:29:11.  I'm not on the spreadsheet but if someone wants to put that as a reference, be my guest :).

nick_shl

mlaningham
I just got an email for the 3060 XC Gaming.  My time was 11:29:11.  I'm not on the spreadsheet but if someone wants to put that as a reference, be my guest :).

Not a bad move today for the cheapest card! Congratulations!

hokey1
2/25/2021 9:29:51 AM PT   Yes
 
Finally!

mlaningham
Sorry!! I reported the time in CST, which is when I was able to order.  Here's the actual time:
 
12G-P5-3657-KR2/25/2021 9:29:57 AM PTYes

kissTheApex

scinceday1

kissTheApex

Where did you get that I’m shaming anyone? All I said was to the effect of “some folk have the luxury and/or patience to wait for the queue”. I myself spent money on new simracing pedals while I could have put some elbow grease and diy’ed my 16 year old boutique pedals to load cell and Hall effects sensors for less than half the cost I paid for a “turn key” solution, so I’m probably the last one who should be judging...

But whatever makes you feel better.

Too much angst in this thread..

It was this part "Now, I can’t fault people to try to make a quick buck, but let’s make no mistake, if folks are buying those up, which they clearly are, they’re the enablers in this equation."

And how is that shaming anyone. Is it not a basic fact that if one is willing to pay a premium, there will always be a person to sell something to him/her?

Everyone has different priorities, as I demonstrated with my pedal example. If someone’s willing to and able to pay for a premium to have their cards right now, that’s their business.

CAholder

hokey1
2/25/2021 9:29:51 AM PT   Yes 
Finally!

What's the gpu sku?

nick_shl

Gamer-MonkUse the code from the most helpful member.

Good advise! "Most helpful member" should answer to questions in other threads too, not just to take timestamps posed by other users and make simple table from it in one thread 

zeeesooor

janyned
I received my notification today at 1:31 PM EST. I can finally finish my PC build. Yay! The associate code discount kind of canceled out the shipping fee!
 
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:30:56 AM PT Yes

Can I ask you how much was the shipping fee and taxes?? And what the estimated time for delivery ? Thank you.