Piersonnyx
Email Received for 08G-P5-3751-KR 10/29/2020 6:13:47 AM PT Yes. Order placed today!

Congratulations!  Your work here is almost done.  Please clean up around your section of the wall before you descend to the curb to await your UPS driver.  
 
Thanks for reporting back to the queue and enjoy your new card!

nomoss
Just got the notify for the 3070 FTW Ultra today.  I really wanted the 3080.  I've been waiting for the 3080 Ultra FTW since 9/22.  I signed up for the 3070 on 10/29.  
Weird that I'd get that notify first.

Congratulations!  
 
Not really surprising...the 3070 launched on 10/29.... 
 
Enjoy your new card!

nomoss
Just got the notify for the 3070 FTW Ultra today.  I really wanted the 3080.  I've been waiting for the 3080 Ultra FTW since 9/22.  I signed up for the 3070 on 10/29.  
Weird that I'd get that notify first.

That's not weird at all actually. The 3070 launched on 10/29, the 3080 launched on 9/17 and hasn't moved past 9/18 on the majority of the queues that have moved significantly... so your 3070 queue was actually significantly before the 3080 queue, in comparison to the launch date of each card.

rocketdoug
 
For the past 2 decades I have been involved in a service industry which is highly seasonal.  In-between stints as an employee I was an owner for 10 years, but IMO it's a much better life when someone else signs the paychecks.  Due to social psychology (see below) and other "convenience" factors, customers want our service 50x more in the busy season (June-Sept) than they do in the slowest months (January-February).  This is completely illogical but nonetheless I have to plan for it, and have developed techniques for manipulating customer perceptions of availability to help level things off.  The current crazy demand for graphics cards reminds me somewhat of the feeding frenzy we get every summer.  If customers think that our service is hard to get, they DEMAND more of it, and call nonstop screaming at us to hire more employees.  When they think that it's easy to get, they SHUN it, and employees struggle to get hours.  But yeah, we don't have to compete with crypto miners.
 
 
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Scarcity_ (social_psychology)
 
"Simply put, humans place a higher value on an object that is scarce, and a lower value on those that are in abundance. For example diamonds are more valuable than rocks because diamonds are not as abundant. The scarcity heuristic is a mental shortcut that places a value on an item based on how easily it might be lost, especially to competitors. The scarcity heuristic stems from the idea that the more difficult it is to acquire an item the more value that item has (my note: cryptocurrency). In many situations we use an item’s availability, its perceived abundance, to quickly estimate quality and/or utility.This can lead to systemic errors or cognitive bias.
 
There are two social psychology principles that work with scarcity that increase its powerful force. One is social proof. This is a contributing factor to the effectiveness of scarcity, because if a product is sold out, or inventory is extremely low, humans interpret that to mean the product must be good since everyone else appears to be buying it. The second contributing principle to scarcity is commitment and consistency. If someone has already committed themselves to something, then find out they cannot have it, it makes the person want the item more....
 
This idea is deeply embedded in the intensely popular “Black Friday” shopping extravaganza that U.S. consumers participate in every year on the day after Thanksgiving. More than getting a bargain on a hot gift idea, shoppers thrive on the competition itself, in obtaining the scarce product."
 
 
The best time to upgrade could be after the 40xx cards are announced, but before production switches over, because then few will want the "old" 30xx cards.  It wasn't that long ago that the 20xx "KO" cards came out at a $100 discount.  We can also hope that crypto crashes and miners flood the market with used mining cards.  To hedge my bets, I have started buying tiny amounts of Bitcoin, because every time I invest into something it crashes (lol).  Here's hope!

This absolutely applies to the current situation with graphics cards--I've looked in on several stock tracking discords over the last few months, and most of them have buy/sell/trade sections. In every single one of those buy/sell/trade chats, there are tons of people looking to trade the cards that they could get for the cards that they actually want.

In many cases, these people have 2-3+ different 3080/3090 variants that they're hoping to trade towards the 3080/3090 variant, or other hardware (e.g. AMD 5000 series CPU/fancy motherboard/etc.) that they actually want.

The same is true of the consoles, of the AMD 6000 series GPUs, of the AMD 5000 series CPUs, and with basically any other piece of modern computer hardware that's currently hard to find.

On the whole, I think that the people doing this are currently having an even bigger impact on the practical scarcity of hardware than the actual scalpers are.

I got a notify today for the 3070 XC Ultra, however I am aiming for an 3080. If I purchase the 3070 will that remove me from the cue for the 3080's?
 
Thanks!

Broek
I got a notify today for the 3070 XC Ultra, however I am aiming for an 3080. If I purchase the 3070 will that remove me from the cue for the 3080's?
 
Thanks!

No, you're limited to 1 purchase per SKU (per card SKU), so you'll still be able to purchase the 3080 when your spot is called.
 
Hence how I went from a 3080 FTW3 Ultra to a 3090 FTW3 Hybrid & now got a Kingpin on the way.

-Godzilla
I wish they would acknowledge the models they have clearly stopped producing and have no plans to produce. Just issue a statement and get it over with. It's been four months.

It's been rather conspicuous for awhile now...now it's a bit ridiculous.  Any statement would be preferable to the silent treatment.  
 
By the by, one more post and you hit triple digits...and de facto Elite status.  Congratulations...?!?

I'm sort of interested in how any GPU's Samsung/Nvidea can produce a day, and by extension how many cards EVGA can produce. Guess it doesn't help that Samsungs CEO is sitting in a jail cell. Though I'm also guessing that there are more supply chain issues other than just the chip itself (memory, PCB, mosfets...etc.).

Lumo841
I'm sort of interested in how any GPU's Samsung/Nvidea can produce a day, and by extension how many cards EVGA can produce. Guess it doesn't help that Samsungs CEO is sitting in a jail cell. Though I'm also guessing that there are more supply chain issues other than just the chip itself (memory, PCB, mosfets...etc.).

Not sure how that effects production? Know it will effects stock prices. Samsung is huge even with the CEO in jail they still keep production going to fill contracts.  

-Godzilla
To be clear, I'm sure the fault IN PRODUCTION is not entirely with EVGA. I'm sure the supply chain is a complete mess, and all rumors point to Samsung's yields being substandard, memory shortages, etc. I can't even fault EVGA for putting all the dies they do get into FTW3 Ultra for that sweet sweet markup. That's fine. Run your business.

But I've been 3 hours out on the 3080 Black since the first week of December. We had a couple good weeks of the card dropping, and the queue advancing by an hour, two hours, a half-hour...

The card is clearly not being produced anymore. But because I'm "only" 3 hours out, I keep hoping, and I keep checking.

"Due to persistent supply chain issues related to the ongoing global health crisis, we have temporarily halted production of the RTX 3080 XC3 Black. We will revisit our production strategy in the coming months and will notify our customers when we are once again able to offer this model."

It's that simple. Who would even be mad about this for longer than 20 seconds, who isn't already mad about being 10 minutes or 20 minutes off the queue time while facing months of silence? Release us.

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nomoss
Purchased.
I can hand it down to my wife when I get the 3080 notify :)

Haha nice. She will be happy for sure!

They aren't ever going to say any SKU is no longer being produced. Because that's not the case. Once demand has gone down to a point where you can finally just find cards in stock (who knows when that will be) they will start producing all the SKUs. Right now putting all the chips available to them into the higher margin SKUs make business sense. They simply make more money if they put a GPU into a non-black SKU. The clock speeds on these OCed variants are very low. Almost any GPU can hit these "ultra" clocks, so of course any GPU that can (almost all of them) will get put into an ultra card. Hence why there are almost no blacks for sale and much more ultras. They aren't discontinuing, or stopping production of these cards, they are just going to come later. They have set a low bar for ultra cards clock speeds to hit so they can shove almost any GPU they get into an ultra card. If you are a for profit business as EVGA is this just makes business sense. It would be great if they would tell us that the blacks aren't going to be available for a while in volume, but they won't because it would be admitting the OCed variants are essentially a farce just to be able to charge more per GPU. Anybody with Precision/Afterburner can overclock their card to ultra level and beyond very easily. The lack of diversity in SKU availability is due to marketing and wanting to maximize profits. (Quite frankly it's hard to blame them with the current market, they simply can't get the amount of GPUs they'd like so they need to make money where possible. It just sucks for us)

Broek
10/29/2020 6:59:47 PM PTYes
 
I have 9/24 timestamp for a 3080 XC3 gaming, wonder if those will ever start to move. Well have at least a 3070 to keep me going. Kudos to EVGA for this cue system and I really appreciate EVGA honoring the old prices for now. 
 
Looking forward to starting my first ssf build. As if the timing couldn't have been better I just got my ssf case in today. Now I only need to get hold of a good x570 or b550 mainboard for a 'normal' price and I am good to go.  Still trying to decide between 5800 or 5600 for now, 5900 seem even more rare than the 3080. 
 
Thanks for all the info on this forum, and for the association code, managed to offset the shipping.

Congratulations on the new card and thanks for reporting back to the thread.  Enjoy your 3070!

JamieEllis94
Apparently 3080 FTW3 Ultra notifies today.... but I haven't seen any movement on the crowd sourced google sheets :(

It was a straggler drop.  I've found a grand total of 2 reports of the 3080 FTW3 Ultra today.

prenga
What really baffles me is that EVGA still let people use notify button knowing that they will never be able to fulfill it. For last 4 months people still singing for cards when they didn’t finish 1 day yet. 4000 series cards will show up before someone signed today gets their card.

It's a notify button, not a pre-order button....