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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 09:08:28
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MSRP was determined with faulty supply and faulty demand assumptions. IMO, the $699 price point of the 3080 FE was WAY too aggressive and immediately brought in a demand (not even factoring mining) that was going to far outweigh supply. If the FE price point was $999, we might have seen this go slightly better, although it still would be a mess. Judging card pricing on Sept 2020 MSRP is going to lead to a lot of disappointment. The fact that NVIDIA ( and places like Best Buy) has not adjusted pricing is amazing to me.
I'm pretty sure the MSRP was based on cost of production with decent profit margins after cost. I don't think they should ever be pricing GPUs based on being cost prohibitive to keep demand lower, even during a semiconductor shortage.
I am saying NVIDIA miscalculated the demand and people's willingness to spend $699 on a graphics card, regardless of margin. Companies are always trying to maximize margins, I would not think they go in saying let's make $200 or 30% per FE, regardless of how in demand they are. They would set the price so that demand is still strong but their profit is maximized. What is the maximum price we can charge that still allows sufficient demand? I can guarantee NVIDIA would prefer if they sold a half a million cards and made $200 per card over selling a million and made $100 per card. Especially when they cannot make them fast enough. Now, they are making less per card and can't make enough of them. Let's say they priced the 3080 FE at $1099. Now, suddenly only 1/2 of the people want that card. They are able to meet demand with 50% less supply and have effectively made $400 more profit on each card. We can sell them as fast as we can make them at $699 or we can sell them as fast as we can make them at $1099. Which do they choose?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 09:11:53
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 09:35:06
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I'm about 5 days away from the 3767 and with these 19-30hr jump drops, I can feel it getting close!
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:02:36
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It is time! Let the flood gates open! Good luck today, everyone.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:17:58
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:23:11
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Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo
Just saw this, different SKU, different queue is my guess
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:24:43
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Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo
Just saw this, different SKU, different queue is my guess
The salt will definitely flow here lmao.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:27:12
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drewski989
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Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo
Just saw this, different SKU, different queue is my guess
On one of the threads Jacob_F wrote the current intent is to migrate the existing queues into single one. But it’s still too early to tell methinks, based on what nVidia is going to do, which seems to be changing daily.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:32:15
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I've received a report of the 3898s dropping today (12/16/2020 9:06:52 am PT). If you are on the bubble, time to check....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:32:19
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Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo
Just saw this, different SKU, different queue is my guess
On one of the threads Jacob_F wrote the current intent is to migrate the existing queues into single one. But it’s still too early to tell methinks, based on what nVidia is going to do, which seems to be changing daily.
I think it would be better to allow each individual the option to choose which queue they stay in and only merge it whenever only LHR cards are produced. I am skeptical of the LHR cards and potential negative impacts on non-mining workloads. Plus Steve brought up the point resale value will likely be diminished.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:34:15
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kissTheApex
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Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo
Just saw this, different SKU, different queue is my guess
On one of the threads Jacob_F wrote the current intent is to migrate the existing queues into single one. But it’s still too early to tell methinks, based on what nVidia is going to do, which seems to be changing daily.
At first glance, this appears to be the "fair" way to do it. You are sitting since September waiting on a 3080, you should transition to your same position in the LHR queue. The problem becomes when both are technically still being made. Can someone waiting since Sept refuse an LHR card because they queued for a different card?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:36:44
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Bora1114
Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo
Just saw this, different SKU, different queue is my guess
On one of the threads Jacob_F wrote the current intent is to migrate the existing queues into single one. But it’s still too early to tell methinks, based on what nVidia is going to do, which seems to be changing daily.
At first glance, this appears to be the "fair" way to do it. You are sitting since September waiting on a 3080, you should transition to your same position in the LHR queue. The problem becomes when both are technically still being made. Can someone waiting since Sept refuse an LHR card because they queued for a different card?
I suppose they could, but unfortunately the consumer is at the disadvantage here. If EVGA offers you a card, would you turn it down? They'll say there's no difference between the original and LHR cards, and you can choose to take it or not. I would probably take it in that case...
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:37:14
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12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 1:41:48 PM PT Yes
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:37:55
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12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 1:41:48 PM PT Yes
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:42:13
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Bora1114Steve at GN said EVGA is changing part numbers for LHR versions. Both normal and LHR parts will be produced for a while. Wonder how this will effect the queue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R5GN60CBo I wondering if EVGA will send LHR to people who in Step Up queue instead normal version...
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:46:16
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I suppose they could, but unfortunately the consumer is at the disadvantage here. If EVGA offers you a card, would you turn it down? They'll say there's no difference between the original and LHR cards, and you can choose to take it or not. I would probably take it in that case...
The issue is if there is a difference in a non-mining related workload. Selling an inferior product marketed as the same can lead to class actions.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:50:21
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12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 1:41:48 PM PT Yes
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:50:31
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At first glance, this appears to be the "fair" way to do it. You are sitting since September waiting on a 3080, you should transition to your same position in the LHR queue. The problem becomes when both are technically still being made. Can someone waiting since Sept refuse an LHR card because they queued for a different card?
Agreed on the problem area. My, totally unsubstantiated, guess is it would fall under the catch all “eVGA reserves the right to make changes to product as it sees fit.” disclaimer. In turn, anyone refuses to respond to a notification email is treated just as current notification queuers that decide not to purchase.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:51:13
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12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 1:41:48 PM PT Yes
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:51:25
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kissTheApexOn one of the threads Jacob_F wrote the current intent is to migrate the existing queues into single one. But it’s still too early to tell methinks, based on what nVidia is going to do, which seems to be changing daily. All queues to one queue? Or merge queues per GPU (LHR/non-LHR) basis?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:54:19
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I suppose they could, but unfortunately the consumer is at the disadvantage here. If EVGA offers you a card, would you turn it down? They'll say there's no difference between the original and LHR cards, and you can choose to take it or not. I would probably take it in that case...
The issue is if there is a difference in a non-mining related workload. Selling an inferior product marketed as the same can lead to class actions.
It will be difficult to say. We'll have to wait for reviews, as always. But I don't foresee EVGA starting up a new queue for these LHR cards. Just my prediction, of course I might be wrong.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:54:29
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kissTheApexOn one of the threads Jacob_F wrote the current intent is to migrate the existing queues into single one. But it’s still too early to tell methinks, based on what nVidia is going to do, which seems to be changing daily. All queues to one queue? Or merge queues per GPU (LHR/non-LHR) basis?
I didn’t assume it was anything other than per GPU/SKU.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:56:00
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Bora1114: If you look at the specifications for each graphic card, that is where EVGA states the performance you will get from the card. As long as it meets those specifications, the product is as advertised.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 10:58:08
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I suppose they could, but unfortunately the consumer is at the disadvantage here. If EVGA offers you a card, would you turn it down? They'll say there's no difference between the original and LHR cards, and you can choose to take it or not. I would probably take it in that case...
The issue is if there is a difference in a non-mining related workload. Selling an inferior product marketed as the same can lead to class actions.
It will be difficult to say. We'll have to wait for reviews, as always. But I don't foresee EVGA starting up a new queue for these LHR cards. Just my prediction, of course I might be wrong.
To the extent they offer them to the queue, I could see EVGA doing what they did for the 3751 KL and 3751 KR...a consumer could sign up for both of the queues but collectively, only get one unit of 3751....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 11:03:40
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Wow, thought this day will never come. 10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:06:42 AM PT YesEnewt, used your code, was a bit tricky as you need to click on the link first so it can create cookie, or it was getting rejected. Thanks a lot for your support. 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 11:03:49
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Bora1114: If you look at the specifications for each graphic card, that is where EVGA states the performance you will get from the card. As long as it meets those specifications, the product is as advertised.
The issue is Nvidia has likely done little testing to show it performs 100% the same in all non-mining workloads. It may perform the same in 99.9% of applications but if one piece of editing software , simulation, or one section of a game is crippled by 50%, it would be an inferior product labeled as identical. Probably will take months of users using the card to find all affected software and who knows if Nvidia would be able to yet offer a fix.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 11:06:42
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Wow, thought this day will never come.
10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:06:42 AM PT Yes
Enewt, used your code, was a bit tricky as you need to click on the link first so it can create cookie, or it was getting rejected.
Thanks a lot for your support.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/05/19 11:13:24
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Bora1114: If you look at the specifications for each graphic card, that is where EVGA states the performance you will get from the card. As long as it meets those specifications, the product is as advertised.
I agree here. I'll take either version of the ones being sought.
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