static.quai
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/30 21:17:13
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I'm just throwing out random notions with no basis of fact on one hand. On the other, the evga side, I think it is steeped somewhat more solidly in quasi-fact. When Newegg started the shuffle, they drew some random number of people and then said, ok, go. There is little doubt in my mind that Newegg is suffering more from multi-account bot/scalpers than here. The more rando email accounts you have, the better off you are. They only really know it's the same person when they "win" an opportunity on multiple accounts. They also dole out more items. I think later Newegg realized their plan was flawed, and that's now why it takes hours to notify people they weren't selected. Seems like they simply number everyone now, and go down the list until everything is sold out.
On the eVGA side, they have a queue. It's fair based on the first in, first out principle - for a specific SKU. Now some people hate that some SKUs get serviced faster than the ones they signed up for. They might complain about the abundance of overall SKUs. But here's the thing. The SKUs aren't generally split on color of wrapper plastic, leds or no leds, three fans or two. What they are generally more split on is quality of gpu coming out of the manufacturing process. Asking them to narrow SKUs based on underlying model number (3060, 3070, 3080, 3090, etc.) is kind of ridiculous. I know why you might want that. They don't do that for the same reason diamond sellers don't sell only on carat. Cut matters. Clarity matters. Color matters.
For people who went only on the cheapest variant of the base "carat" they wanted, I get it. However, the lowest quality for a given "carat", or in this case, which 3000 level, is proportionally smaller than mid and (combined) higher end of the other 3cs. Fewer people initially queued on the higher 3cs, because that's not really how we think of GPUs (value vs performance lift). Retailer demands were probably also similarly higher for the lower 3cs at a "carat" level, and eVGA probably is struggling meeting that demand for big retail customers. Hence the lower movement here on those queues.
This is how you get something you would be happy with faster. Join a queue as soon as possible when it opens, and at the highest levels first, if possible, incrementally down to the lowest levels of the 3000 level offered if released at the same time. If you join late, you're going to wait. If you join only low end for a specific 3000 level, you're going to wait. That's what it really seems to boil down to in this queue.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/30 21:40:05
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static.quaiThere is little doubt in my mind that Newegg is suffering more from multi-account bot/scalpers than here. The more rando email accounts you have, the better off you are.
On the eVGA side, they have a queue. It's fair based on the first in, first out principle - for a specific SKU. EVGA allow to sign up without account. Which mean you can sing up as many new created emails as you could. And after receiving notification you can register you siblings/parents/spouse/friends/colleagues( you can figure out it later) to receive multiple cards... To fix that EVGA can allow to sign up only if you already have account - it may help a little bit. And even better option: allow notification sign up only if you have at least one registered EVGA product in your account.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/30 21:45:56
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static.quai
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This is how you get something you would be happy with faster. Join a queue as soon as possible when it opens, and at the highest levels first, if possible, incrementally down to the lowest levels of the 3000 level offered if released at the same time. If you join late, you're going to wait. If you join only low end for a specific 3000 level, you're going to wait. That's what it really seems to boil down to in this queue.
Not everyone got in when the queues started, some got in before there was any kind of queue. My oldest 3 SKUs (ones I have been waiting the longest) I clicked "Notify Me" expecting an email when they were in stock, fully realizing that it would be just as useless as the initial "notify" buttons at Best Buy and Newegg. It was more than a month after I clicked those notify buttons that EVGA announced their queue system and I was "grandfathered" in. More than happy about that, just not so happy about my choices based on my budget as opposed to the profit margin in the given card.
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static.quai
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/30 21:58:25
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This is how you get something you would be happy with faster. Join a queue as soon as possible when it opens, and at the highest levels first, if possible, incrementally down to the lowest levels of the 3000 level offered if released at the same time. If you join late, you're going to wait. If you join only low end for a specific 3000 level, you're going to wait. That's what it really seems to boil down to in this queue.
Not everyone got in when the queues started, some got in before there was any kind of queue. My oldest 3 SKUs (ones I have been waiting the longest) I clicked "Notify Me" expecting an email when they were in stock, fully realizing that it would be just as useless as the initial "notify" buttons at Best Buy and Newegg. It was more than a month after I clicked those notify buttons that EVGA announced their queue system and I was "grandfathered" in. More than happy about that, just not so happy about my choices based on my budget as opposed to the profit margin in the given card.
I hear you. I think it's not entirely about profit margin. I think it's about the quality of the manufacturing process. Yes, profit margin matters. I can't speak for you, but if someone offers me 25 dollars an hour to do the job someone else offered me 20 dollars an hour with all else being equal? I take the 25. I think the bigger thing here, especially for someone like you who joined before the queues were really queues is that no one knew the true distribution of chip quality manufacturing. No one knew that supply chain and manufacturing would be a mess. That's why I gave my observational pointers above. You can't go back in time to change where you are now, but when the next TI rounds come? People still in want of a card should very much follow that dynamic, IMO.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/30 22:11:36
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static.quaiThere is little doubt in my mind that Newegg is suffering more from multi-account bot/scalpers than here. The more rando email accounts you have, the better off you are.
On the eVGA side, they have a queue. It's fair based on the first in, first out principle - for a specific SKU.
EVGA allow to sign up without account. Which mean you can sing up as many new created emails as you could. And after receiving notification you can register you siblings/parents/spouse/friends/colleagues(you can figure out it later) to receive multiple cards...
To fix that EVGA can allow to sign up only if you already have account - it may help a little bit. And even better option: allow notification sign up only if you have at least one registered EVGA product in your account.
All great points. I think the more you can narrow down requests to a "person", the better. I still think it's less rampant here, but I'm sure it happens.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/30 23:29:49
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I'm hoping for a bunch of 3060s this week! 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 00:31:55
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Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 01:45:52
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zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
Typically lower end cards are made from higher end chips that don’t meet the standards for the high end models. Hence more 3060s-3070s. But I understand the frustration. As for the wait on 3080s I’ve been on the auto-queue for the 3897 since 9/23 and I don’t even think EVGA is anywhere even close to reaching me in the queue. I’ve already given up on checking retail. If I eventually get the opportunity to buy a new card it’ll depend on how far out we are to the next generation announcement which will dictate whether I actually buy it or not at this point. Given the current state of things I don’t expect to get a notification until August if I’m lucky. So like most of my fellow gpu deprived I’m making due with what I have. Could always be worse on my end, so I’m glad to see some of us are getting the cards they need. Happy gaming.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 02:33:39
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 What a time we've come to. Waiting for a card in line, like in the communist era for bananas. Every single person here is waiting to receive a notification for a card they'd like to purchase. In the meantime, other loan sharks sell cards in bazaars for big bucks. I wish everyone the best of luck and a quick delivery of your dream graphics card. 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:19:12
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I was just looking on Amazon and there are sellers on there selling 2070's for $1600-1800. I would rather wait in line for a 3090. They also have a 3090 listed for $3149. Stupid prices
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:31:37
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Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)
I was lucky (or dumb enough) to click notify me on 9.17 for 2 "live" 3080s. Both of those were fulfilled by the first week of November. However, after that initial "luck", the queue system was implemented well before the release of everything but the 3080/3090 IIRC, so most should have been aware for all the other releases. I've signed up for and had queue emails to purchase at least 5 more cards since then from EVGA. I have also been able to purchase 6 or 7 cards "in the wild" from Best Buy and Newegg. Single long-standing accounts, no tricks, just effort into getting the cards to help friends and family because I "enjoy the hunt". Discord has some very good groups of people out there who monitor stock drops, which I admit is now way worse due to Shuffle, production, water shortages, covid still, and so on.
If you are waiting on a single sku since September, then that's a choice to put all your eggs in one basket. I would be bummed, and it is bullcrap to have dead SKUs, but this is not your only option. If you knew the 3060 release was happening, but slept in that morning, it is not scalpers/miners fault. I was literally giving away my entire system in November with 32GB RAM, 6700K, z170 mb, and a 1080TI FTW3 for $500, nobody wanted it.
Life tries to run us over with a bus from time to time. You can stand in the road and yell "this ain't right", and you would die being 100% correct... Or you can move out of the way and yell "this ain't right", now you are both correct and still breathing.
I know the salt will rain on me now, but I feel like I am fighting the good fight here. My effort has gotten cards into the hands of family and friends (and a couple strangers who became friends) for exactly 0 in profit to me. The profit is my enjoyment of the hunt for cards, and the happiness people have when they can obtain "the impossible".
Good luck and fast queues to all. I truly wish all of you the best in your pursuit here.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:32:13
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DecoyTypically lower end cards are made from higher end chips that don’t meet the standards for the high end models. Hence more 3060s-3070s. But I understand the frustration. It is not true. IC manufacturing processes very reliable now. Chips contains billions and billions transistors. Bad thing can happen with any of it. It is really makes chip complicated if you'll try to add ability to disable any of 10496 CUDA cores for 3090 for example. Usually it is predefined which part of chip will be disabled. What chance that bad things will happens exactly in predefined 1792 CUDA cores, not in the rest 8704 CUDA cores? Usually manufacturers uses fully functional chips of more expensive to create cheaper product because of marketing. But this is not the case in case of shortage. Until demand of 3090 and 3070 will remain high, we will not see increase in production of 3080 and 3060 Ti.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:35:35
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Good morning everyone! Seems Quesday was a dud, here's hoping that we see some big drops today!
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:36:00
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drewski989
Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)
Might be an unpopular opinion but I agree with it. The only reason I have a 3070 atm is bc I bought a prebuilt. Bought it for several hundred less than the price of just the card on ebay lmao. I want to replace it with an EVGA 3080 eventually but I made the mistake of signing up late to the queue.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:45:30
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drewski989
Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)
Very valid point. The thing is, “the hunt” looks like has become a full time job now, because of the circumstances. As a professional, working full day in an office (no WFH here), some can’t really “afford” to be on forums, discord, multiple retailer websites and manufacturer sites the whole day (and then still not be able to purchase the card you’ve already put in your cart 🤪). This is such a “first world problem” that I personally did not foresee that would take so long. I’m also lucky that I have a 2080 super and it runs the only two games I play in VR, one of them a bit badly, but it’s acceptable to me. I agree that if it is such a life ruining experience for some, they should take command and put in the work to secure a card rather than complaining that <insert your favorite manufacturer> is NOT doing enough to get them their card(s).
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 05:51:13
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I took a stab at trying to put some sense around the question as to why some models of Ampere are more abundant than others. This is just one of many quantifiable factors, and there are some assumptions here.
GPU $/mm^2
3060 (top GA106)
- EVGA selling price $389
- Die size 276.0 mm^2
- $1.40/mm^2
3060Ti (cut down GA104)
- EVGA selling price $499
- Die size 392.5 mm^2
- $1.27/mm^2
3070 (top GA104)
- EVGA selling price $679
- Die size 392.5 mm^2
- $1.73/mm^2
3080 (cut down GA102)
- EVGA selling price $879
- Die size 628.4 mm^2
- $1.40/mm^2
3090 (top GA102)
- EVGA selling price $1869
- Die size 628.4 mm^2
- $2.97/mm^2
Silicon is the controlling factor. This is a simplified comparison since cost to manufacture of the AIB varies. It’s only accurate within the same chip family on same board... so 3080 vs 3090, etc. but comparison across the group gives you a good indicator of motivation to allocate capacity to a given model. Example: We see more 3090 and 3070. They are competing for the same silicon wafer, but at very different profit levels.
3060Ti and 3080 are less profitable within their respective die sizes, we assume yields are good, so we see less of the cut down chips. That, plus the potential for more profit per chip, will be a driving factor during a silicon shortage.
3060s are much smaller than 3080s, so we are seeing more of them for the same amount of wafer being consumed. It appears that more are being notified, but you get more than 2 3060s for every 3080, based on a constant die size being consumed. More customers, more sales, more happy (content, satiated) customers who got to buy SOMETHING. Just a guess, doesn’t take into account how much cheaper the AIB is on the 3060 vs 3080.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 06:05:28
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drewski989
Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)
Just my story so YMMV. 1) Clicked the notify on 19th of Sept, before there was a Queue system, was lucky to be grandfathered in. Since I have a functioning 1080 (not TI), didn't really pay attention till around January. If I had been actively trying other avenues between Sept and Dec, probably would have gotten something. Far too many additional circumstances happened between Sept and now that most could not have predicted (not all of them at least). 2) At the price of GPUs (even MSRP) now, I refuse to NOT be picky. I am not buying a GPU at $500+ for just a year or 2, If I am spending that kind of money I expect to see that GPU last closer to 5 years. Which is why I won't buy a used one if I don't know who and how it was used. I also don't have an unlimited budget, I don't have the ability to just go out and buy a pre-built for the card inside. 3) Finally, with regards to making "the hunt" a full time job, I have one of those, and it does not allow me to "hunt" while on the clock. No way I could get in on the 3060 launch as it happened during the 1st hour of my job, best I could do is get in 8+ hours after launch, for a GPU that was just not that attractive to me at the time. Cannot "hunt" for new drops if they happen on a work day, I am a bit lucky that my days off are not weekends, but if the drops don't happen on one of those two days, I don't get to see any of it.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 06:52:23
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sturm375
drewski989
Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)
Just my story so YMMV.
1) Clicked the notify on 19th of Sept, before there was a Queue system, was lucky to be grandfathered in. Since I have a functioning 1080 (not TI), didn't really pay attention till around January. If I had been actively trying other avenues between Sept and Dec, probably would have gotten something. Far too many additional circumstances happened between Sept and now that most could not have predicted (not all of them at least).
2) At the price of GPUs (even MSRP) now, I refuse to NOT be picky. I am not buying a GPU at $500+ for just a year or 2, If I am spending that kind of money I expect to see that GPU last closer to 5 years. Which is why I won't buy a used one if I don't know who and how it was used. I also don't have an unlimited budget, I don't have the ability to just go out and buy a pre-built for the card inside.
3) Finally, with regards to making "the hunt" a full time job, I have one of those, and it does not allow me to "hunt" while on the clock. No way I could get in on the 3060 launch as it happened during the 1st hour of my job, best I could do is get in 8+ hours after launch, for a GPU that was just not that attractive to me at the time. Cannot "hunt" for new drops if they happen on a work day, I am a bit lucky that my days off are not weekends, but if the drops don't happen on one of those two days, I don't get to see any of it.
There are definitely circumstances, which is why I like helping people when I have the chance to get them a card. My brother works 3 days on, 3 off, 3 nights on, 3 nights off. It made me so happy to be available/lucky enough to get him a 3090 and a 5900X for his build. He is usually working or sleeping "normal" hours. 100% agreed... I am painting with a broad brush here. Pricing is INSANE now, availability is BAD, and choices are WORSE than they were at launch. The situation has gotten worse, not better. Overall, the situation sucks. However, on the Discord I belong to, I see the same old people always late to drops, never signing up for the queues at launch, and yet, spend all day long complaining about the situation. My thoughts are always, tons of time to complain, but sleep in during drop days or releases... Hopefully we are seeing a once in a lifetime mess here, I am just thankful for the EVGA queues, no other system seems truly "fair". Again, easy to say when I have had success. Once again, I wish everyone the best of luck, especially those without a card and being forced to pay insanely priced new/used cards.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 06:54:11
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drewski989
Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions) Probably. But most people can't afford to turn GPU-hunting into a career and tailgate at Micro Center or work the F5 key at BB/NE like a rat in a Skinner box or jump on a website the second a Discord bot makes their phone buzz. Systems like the queue or Shuffle allow people with other, more stringent, obligations to try to get a card more passively but that doesn't mean they can't get legitimately frustrated with the situation. And you can stretch "flexibility" into buying from scalpers or purchasing prebuilts and discarding everything that's not a GPU but, again, it's legitimate to be frustrated that these are your options. Not speaking for myself, by the way. I lucked into a 3080 early on and got a 3060 since so, while I have a queue spot for some other cards for other systems or friends, I'm well set up. But I can still empathize with people less fortunate.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:00:05
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zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:02:47
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Decoy
zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
Typically lower end cards are made from higher end chips that don’t meet the standards for the high end models. Hence more 3060s-3070s. But I understand the frustration.
As for the wait on 3080s I’ve been on the auto-queue for the 3897 since 9/23 and I don’t even think EVGA is anywhere even close to reaching me in the queue. I’ve already given up on checking retail. If I eventually get the opportunity to buy a new card it’ll depend on how far out we are to the next generation announcement which will dictate whether I actually buy it or not at this point. Given the current state of things I don’t expect to get a notification until August if I’m lucky. So like most of my fellow gpu deprived I’m making due with what I have. Could always be worse on my end, so I’m glad to see some of us are getting the cards they need.
Happy gaming.
Yes, I singed up on September last year on 9/21/2020 11:39:34 AM pt I'm like 6 hours away. But I started watching the queue recently like a month now and it was a nightmare for me. And If I notice your offer I would definitely responded way earlier for sure. But I don't see any body offering anything here to help others to get something.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:08:16
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Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
What amazing honest queue we are experiencing right now then.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:15:46
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Holybull
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Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
didn't stop them from September until a couple of weeks ago. Honestly, I wish they would just tell me if I'm just SOL, at least then I wouldn't have to keep checking this forum every day.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:16:59
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zeeesooor
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Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
What amazing honest queue we are experiencing right now then.
Less about the queue and more about Nvidia choosing to produce less 3080 dies.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:20:32
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Bora1114
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zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
What amazing honest queue we are experiencing right now then.
Less about the queue and more about Nvidia choosing to produce less 3080 dies.
I'm sure they are producing them, but they are meant for the 3080 Ti at this point
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:21:10
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Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
didn't stop them from September until a couple of weeks ago.
Honestly, I wish they would just tell me if I'm just SOL, at least then I wouldn't have to keep checking this forum every day.
Yields are probably improving and they can prob profit more from defective dies by using them in the CMP 90HX.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:23:07
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I agree with many of the above comments concerning the availability of the chips that go into the 3080. I'm a genuine neophyte on GPU changes...is the difference between a TI and non-TI model an actual change in silicon? Or is it changes to other components of the card?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:24:35
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Bora1114
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zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
didn't stop them from September until a couple of weeks ago.
Honestly, I wish they would just tell me if I'm just SOL, at least then I wouldn't have to keep checking this forum every day.
Yields are probably improving and they can prob profit more from defective dies by using them in the CMP 90HX.
I hope they are improving but at the moment I'm in a seeing is believing mindset. Magicians do their tricks by distracting you with one hand while the other one is doing the trick.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:27:45
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Bora1114
zeeesooor
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zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.
the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.
What amazing honest queue we are experiencing right now then.
Less about the queue and more about Nvidia choosing to produce less 3080 dies.
I'm sure they are producing them, but they are meant for the 3080 Ti at this point
I seriously hope that this is not the case and that they phase out the 3080 in favor of the TI: that would be ONE HELL of a spit and kick in the face by EVGA for all the people that have been waiting for months for a 3080 just to be kicked back in another queues from the beginning again and on the same level as all the others who either joined the queues late after launch day or recently. If that happens EVGA better have a system that prioritize the people that have been in the queue for months already before the newly queued people.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/31 07:28:39
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SyntaxTurtle
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Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)
Probably. But most people can't afford to turn GPU-hunting into a career and tailgate at Micro Center or work the F5 key at BB/NE like a rat in a Skinner box or jump on a website the second a Discord bot makes their phone buzz. Systems like the queue or Shuffle allow people with other, more stringent, obligations to try to get a card more passively but that doesn't mean they can't get legitimately frustrated with the situation. And you can stretch "flexibility" into buying from scalpers or purchasing prebuilts and discarding everything that's not a GPU but, again, it's legitimate to be frustrated that these are your options.
Not speaking for myself, by the way. I lucked into a 3080 early on and got a 3060 since so, while I have a queue spot for some other cards for other systems or friends, I'm well set up. But I can still empathize with people less fortunate.
I have all the empathy in the world for those who have given an honest effort given their own personal circumstances. For some, that is ability to camp, for others, they have way less time to "hunt". My comment is more for those who have all day to complain, but not to take matters into their own hands. I did a search on a particular member of the discord I belong to... easily 30 posts a day, 95% of them complaining about bots/scalpers/NVIDIA, and always "just missed" a drop here or there. The queue is the great equalizer. If you had 5-10 mins on those specific days (to your point, that's a big if), there has been a chance to get in line a ton of times here. My assumption (again it's an assumption) is a large number of people did not put forth the effort without a good reason not to, yet still feel the need to blame everything under the sun but themselves. Hard to not have this sound like boomer talk, but I can guarantee I am not one :D
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