drewski989

SyntaxTurtle

drewski989
Very unpopular opinion - If you were willing to be flexible in your choices and assuming a little more effort in the right places, you would likely have something by now. (given some exceptions)

Probably.  But most people can't afford to turn GPU-hunting into a career and tailgate at Micro Center or work the F5 key at BB/NE like a rat in a Skinner box or jump on a website the second a Discord bot makes their phone buzz.  Systems like the queue or Shuffle allow people with other, more stringent, obligations to try to get a card more passively but that doesn't mean they can't get legitimately frustrated with the situation.  And you can stretch "flexibility" into buying from scalpers or purchasing prebuilts and discarding everything that's not a GPU but, again, it's legitimate to be frustrated that these are your options.
 
Not speaking for myself, by the way.  I lucked into a 3080 early on and got a 3060 since so, while I have a queue spot for some other cards for other systems or friends, I'm well set up.  But I can still empathize with people less fortunate.

I have all the empathy in the world for those who have given an honest effort given their own personal circumstances.  For some, that is ability to camp, for others, they have way less time to "hunt".  My comment is more for those who have all day to complain, but not to take matters into their own hands.  I did a search on a particular member of the discord I belong to...  easily 30 posts a day, 95% of them complaining about bots/scalpers/NVIDIA, and always "just missed" a drop here or there.
 
The queue is the great equalizer.  If you had 5-10 mins on those specific days (to your point, that's a big if), there has been a chance to get in line a ton of times here.  My assumption (again it's an assumption) is a large number of people did not put forth the effort without a good reason not to, yet still feel the need to blame everything under the sun but themselves.
 
Hard to not have this sound like boomer talk, but I can guarantee I am not one :D

I mean I tried the discord bots that give alerts and so forth. Never got one alert. 
 
and this queue was working great until they decided to full stop the morning of 9/21, coupled with the fact that Jacob doesn't post here anymore, which makes me think something is up and even more frustrated.

Bora1114

defensor
I agree with many of the above comments concerning the availability of the chips that go into the 3080.  I'm a genuine neophyte on GPU changes...is the difference between a TI and non-TI model an actual change in silicon?  Or is it changes to other components of the card?

Changes in silicon. Other components on the card are typically based on sku or model. 
 
The Ti change could be a different die or a heavily cut down die. The 3060 is a GA 106 while the 3060 TI is a GA 104. The 3080 Ti is expected to be on GA 102 like the 3080 however with more of the die enabled (so closer to a 3090) and some say more/different vram. 

Thanks Information!  I'll go back to my usual Groundhog Day routine.  

Bora1114

evgaboyd
 
I hope they are improving but at the moment I'm in a seeing is believing mindset.
 
Magicians do their tricks by distracting you with one hand while the other one is doing the trick.

Most processes improve over time. Nvidia is selling 30 million USD worth of cards to a mining farm. Would hardly call that a magic trick when its probably all 3080 dies. 

you misunderstand, but that's ok

I just read this:
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-imports-are-stuck-on-ships-floating-just-off-los-angeles-11617183002
 
I'm hoping that my cards in queue are in these containers, and just a matter of unloading and distributing them.
 
OTOH, hold hope in one hand and your dog's poop bag in the other, and see which weighs more.

drewski989My comment is more for those who have all day to complain, but not to take matters into their own hands.  I did a search on a particular member of the discord I belong to...  easily 30 posts a day, 95% of them complaining about bots/scalpers/NVIDIA, and always "just missed" a drop here or there.

Fair enough.  This is an issue where you see it through the lens of those around you.  I don't hang out on Discords where people constantly complain about it presumably without acting.  I do hang out with friends who I know would very much like a new card but aren't going to make card hunting their new job.  I think that's a fair decision and shouldn't preclude them from recognizing that a trashy situation is trash.
 
There's a weird vibe from the aggregate of the community where people get told both (a) there's so many worse things than not having a new GPU so shame on you for caring and being upset and also, conversely, (b) if you don't have a new GPU, it's your own fault for not dedicating your life to getting an RTX 3080 because, if you really cared, you'd be swimming in GPUs by now.  I think there should be plenty of healthy middle ground where you (a) do what you can within your reasonable limits and also (b) are allowed to be reasonably frustrated while implicitly recognizing that not having a 3070 beats losing the family farm to locusts or contracting leprosy.  Let people vent and offer them support, if only a "Yup, it sure does suck, hang in there".

rocketdoug

Bora1114
 
Yuck , subscribe to read. 
 
Edit: Clicked link again and they no longer require me to subscribe to read? Que?

 
Sorry, I read it without subscribing so thought it was free.  I don't want anyone to pay.

It seems like they have some sort of tomfoolery going on.

tshalevThe 3090 and 3080 are different dies.

It is the same die. Check die size and transistors count - it exactly matched between two.

Is anyone still waiting for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 BLACK (10G-P5-3881-KR) since September 18th of last year?

zeeesooor
I was hoping anyone got any new gpu and wanna get rid of his old gpu and kind enough to post an offer to help some people here still waiting with no gpu would be so great thanks in advance.

Post a WTB thread in the EVGA Marketplace

Bora1114

nick_shl

tshalevThe 3090 and 3080 are different dies.

It is the same die. Check die size and transistors count - it exactly matched between two.

You are correct!
https://www.nvidia.com/co...ture-whitepaper-v2.pdf

Ok you're right, I was mistaken. The argument that 3080s are being cannibalized by 3090s somehow is likely fallacious though. The reality is that 3080s are vastly outselling 3090s. There's more to it than just the die. The memory is expensive and limited as well. It might seem like people will buy whatever they can get their hands on, but the reality is that most people are not buying 3090s even if they can find them. It just seems that way when you're in a community such as this one.

For some reason i can enter into any evga Marketplace post don't know why give me a message about don't have an authorization or something

Wednesday.  For those of you that have/had a camel as a school mascot, feel free to celebrate a bit. (I am looking at you Campbell University and Connecticut College.)
 
Hopefully today will be better than yesterday...we go again!
 
As of 9:20 am PT Wednesday, March 31, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of March 30; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report):
 
Card                                  SKU                        Auto-Notify Timestamp / (Change from Previous Summary)
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                       10/25/2020 05:38:15    
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                       10/06/2020 06:21:58  
3080 FTW3 Ultra                 3897                       09/21/2020 05:48:12  
3080 XC3 Ultra                   3885                       09/18/2020 08:43:44      
3070 FTW3 Ultra                 3767                       11/07/2020 14:56:08    
3070 XC3 Ultra                   3755                       11/16/2020 08:20:02    
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3667                       12/01/2020 07:30:47   
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                       09/24/2020 16:12:06      
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                       09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Gaming             3895                       09/16/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                       09/16/2020 11:01:20
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                       10/29/2020 06:20:00   
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                       12/08/2020 16:59:05      (01:06:59)  
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663                       12/01/2020 07:32:35 
3060 XC3 Gaming               3657                       02/25/2021 09:31:23 
 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                   3971                       09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                   3881                       09/16/2020 15:14:00  
3070 XC3 Black                   3751                       10/29/2020 06:19:23   
3060 XC3 Black                   3655                       02/25/2021 09:07:52   
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                       12/11/2020 05:59:52       
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                       12/08/2020 17:48:51      (00:45:39)   
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3898                       12/16/2020 09:05:12   
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3888                       12/10/2020 09:08:56    
 
Hydro Copper (XC3 Delayed)
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC           3989                       11/13/2020 09:54:29  
3090 XC3 Ultra HC              3979                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC            3899                       11/13/2020 09:13:29 
3080 XC3 Ultra HC              3889                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
 
K|NGP|N (Queue sheet)       3998                       12/20/2020 18:55:23 
 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!

 

Larac

Urobulus

evgaboyd

Bora1114

zeeesooor

Holybull

zeeesooor
Why they are dropping all those 3060 and 3070 ti come on 3080 is way earlier than those cards and still never got a good drop this so bad omg man makes me feel worse about all those 3080 3897 sku people like me waiting for a long time.

the 3080 is a binned 3090 chip, they're not going to produce a lot if the 3090 is selling well.

What amazing honest queue we are experiencing right now then.

Less about the queue and more about Nvidia choosing to produce less 3080 dies. 

I'm sure they are producing them, but they are meant for the 3080 Ti at this point

I seriously hope that this is not the case and that they phase out the 3080 in favor of the TI: that would be ONE HELL of a spit and kick in the face by EVGA for all the people that have been waiting for months for a 3080 just to be kicked back in another queues from the beginning again and on the same level as all the others who either joined the queues late after launch day or recently.
 
If that happens EVGA better have a system that prioritize the people that have been in the queue for months already before the newly queued people.

This is what they did with Hybrid cards.
No doubt it will be done with the 3080ti.

New queue, never mention dead queues again.
Hope folks forget.

This is my only true issue with EVGA, they will not admit that these cards will not be produced.
They just ignore them.


Well its my birthday and I have pneumonia.

So Good Luck All.

Well, they don't care that much my friend i know that. And I hope you feel better soon sorry for what is going on to you and happy birthday.

Urobulus
If they end up basically screwing the people already in line for months and drop the 3080 FTW completely in favor for a brand new queue for a 3080ti then EVGA will definitely lose my trust, and probably a lot of others too.

If Nvidia stops producing the 3080 then EVGA won't have a choice though