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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:31:16
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nick_shl not a queue, not a lottery, but auction!
Bad idea . Bora1114 I am simply making a suggestion that EVGA should do it.
It is enough to make 1 card in your hand . And those who have already received a card of the 3 series will simply get off the track of the queue. Of course, their "grandparents", "grandmothers" and other "relatives" can always register and wait 1-2 years to re-purchase the card.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:31:21
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people on the forum are funny a lot of people keep asking what in this case what evga is doing about scalpers and what are they going to do. First evga is a business which means they sell a product to earn money. Just like scalpers buy something and then turn around and sell it for more then they paid for it. what is evga to do about the problem with the queue it is only 1 card per each sku so it is limited in a way. yes they could look deeper and check to see if different accounts have the same shipping or payment information. But at the same time it would slow everything down more and then people would be upset about that. Evga is in a no win situation whatever they do someone will have an issue with it but at least they have tried something instead of just letting bots buy all there stock up as soon as it restocks. I have been waiting since 12/1 but i didn't know about it until 840 pm pt for the 3663 which i know will be a long wait. from the forum i am closer to 3657 which from some posts i am only maybe 2 minutes from now. I am bothered by the wait as much as everyone else but i will wait until i get the 3060 and 3060 ti hopefully before prices go up again.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:34:57
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Cawyke The people that bought these are customers also. They have decided to purchase and sell at a higher price. Just like people with tickets to sporting events and concerts. You're only having an issue because you have not gotten an opportunity to purchase the card through the queue system. You should have been quicker then they were, if anything they are probably more loyal than you are but are taking advantage of the situation to further their funds. Stop whining about it, and grow up.
Its funny how you are telling me to "stop whining about it" when I am simply making a suggestion that EVGA should do it. I can layout an argument for why they should however that still would not be considered "whining". I have defended that scalpers serve a normal market function, however this does not mean companies need not deal with scalpers in any way they want. Whats funnier though is how you feel the need to personally attack me. If I was as presumptuous as others, i would say a lot of people getting upset over suggestions might be scalpers themselves.
You literally went out of your way to find the scalpers and post them here. If you didn't want the negative or positive consequences, you would have emailed them to EVGA and not said anything in a public forum about it. Scalpers will scalp, and that is the way it is. I'm not personally attacking you, stop playing the victim, you attacked the people that you have defended. That is hypocritical and a fallacy in your argument. Move on and wait patiently for your turn.
I did because all I had to do was type "evga 3080 hydro copper" into ebay and i got 4 results. Public opinion is a useful tool and companies will alter their stances given it. Scalpers will scalp however I am making a suggestion EVGA do something about it when they have the ability to. "Stop whining about it, and grow up." <--- Personal attack. Its not playing the victim if you tell someone this when they are offering a suggestion. A well thought out and intelligent response intending to lead to fruitful conversation would not include this in the sentence. Please point out the hypocrisy and fallacies so I can continue to dismantle your embarrassment of a rant.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:35:37
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luypham 12/1/2020 7:30:59 AM PTYes
Congratulations. Thanks for reporting back on the 3663 queue.
Ugh... So close now but pretty sure it's not going to be today for this one. The nephew is being patient but I know he's really anxious. 08G-P5-3663-KR 12/1/2020 7:34:06 AM PT No
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:38:10
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luypham 12/1/2020 7:30:59 AM PTYes
Congratulations. Thanks for reporting back on the 3663 queue.
Ugh... So close now but pretty sure it's not going to be today for this one. The nephew is being patient but I know he's really anxious.  08G-P5-3663-KR 12/1/2020 7:34:06 AM PT No
The wait will surely be worth it
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:40:10
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Yet another disagreement in this thread. 𼺠Vita1ico
nick_shl  not a queue, not a lottery, but auction!
Bad idea . Â
Mate, CLEARLY a joke. Lol
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:41:20
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discoglen25 people on the forum are funny a lot of people keep asking what in this case what evga is doing about scalpers and what are they going to do. First evga is a business which means they sell a product to earn money. Just like scalpers buy something and then turn around and sell it for more then they paid for it. what is evga to do about the problem with the queue it is only 1 card per each sku so it is limited in a way. yes they could look deeper and check to see if different accounts have the same shipping or payment information. But at the same time it would slow everything down more and then people would be upset about that. Evga is in a no win situation whatever they do someone will have an issue with it but at least they have tried something instead of just letting bots buy all there stock up as soon as it restocks. I have been waiting since 12/1 but i didn't know about it until 840 pm pt for the 3663 which i know will be a long wait. from the forum i am closer to 3657 which from some posts i am only maybe 2 minutes from now. I am bothered by the wait as much as everyone else but i will wait until i get the 3060 and 3060 ti hopefully before prices go up again.
Yes it would take longer but it would allow for others in queue to get cards faster. I am not happy with scalpers however I completely understand they serve a purpose. I am recommending EVGA cancel all orders/notifies for known scalper accounts. This would be excellent PR and would lead to more brand loyalty in the future. The side effect being some people get cards faster. I agree the system is better than any other systems.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:42:07
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Cawyke The people that bought these are customers also. They have decided to purchase and sell at a higher price. Just like people with tickets to sporting events and concerts. You're only having an issue because you have not gotten an opportunity to purchase the card through the queue system. You should have been quicker then they were, if anything they are probably more loyal than you are but are taking advantage of the situation to further their funds. Stop whining about it, and grow up.
Its funny how you are telling me to "stop whining about it" when I am simply making a suggestion that EVGA should do it. I can layout an argument for why they should however that still would not be considered "whining". I have defended that scalpers serve a normal market function, however this does not mean companies need not deal with scalpers in any way they want. Whats funnier though is how you feel the need to personally attack me. If I was as presumptuous as others, i would say a lot of people getting upset over suggestions might be scalpers themselves.
You literally went out of your way to find the scalpers and post them here. If you didn't want the negative or positive consequences, you would have emailed them to EVGA and not said anything in a public forum about it. Scalpers will scalp, and that is the way it is. I'm not personally attacking you, stop playing the victim, you attacked the people that you have defended. That is hypocritical and a fallacy in your argument. Move on and wait patiently for your turn.
I did because all I had to do was type "evga 3080 hydro copper" into ebay and i got 4 results. Public opinion is a useful tool and companies will alter their stances given it. Scalpers will scalp however I am making a suggestion EVGA do something about it when they have the ability to. "Stop whining about it, and grow up." <--- Personal attack. Its not playing the victim if you tell someone this when they are offering a suggestion. A well thought out and intelligent response intending to lead to fruitful conversation would not include this in the sentence. Please point out the hypocrisy and fallacies so I can continue to dismantle your embarrassment of a rant.
You said you defend scalping, yet say they shouldn't be doing it. Fallacy This is a normal market function using a queue system, there is nothing against selling these cards at a higher price after purchasing through the queue system. That was a general statement to the people who are whining about not getting a card through the queue system yet. Which is a continual thing on this forum. To be fair I should have clarified because it did seem like I was attacking you. My apologies. You shouldn't have put that information here, you should have sent it to EVGA directly.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:42:12
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Cawyke The people that bought these are customers also. They have decided to purchase and sell at a higher price. Just like people with tickets to sporting events and concerts. I'm not sure where you're from but ticket scalping is illegal or heavily restricted in several US states.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:47:01
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Bora1114 3080 Hydro coppers being scalped on Ebay: Ebay User camfre_54 - West Newton, Massachusetts, United States Ebay User pjstech5 - Rochester, New York, United States Ebay User codename3r7 - Anaheim, California, United States Ebay User swiftcop - Minneapolis, Minnesota, United States Should be easy for EVGA to associate these accounts with scalpers and cancel order/prevent future ones but I doubt they will.
Honestly, the fact that you did this is so much more sad and disturbing than them scalping. Nobody likes a rat!
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luypham 12/1/2020 7:30:59 AM PTYes
Congratulations. Thanks for reporting back on the 3663 queue.
Ugh... So close now but pretty sure it's not going to be today for this one. The nephew is being patient but I know he's really anxious. 08G-P5-3663-KR 12/1/2020 7:34:06 AM PT No
The wait will surely be worth it
Oh yeah. I've actually already been rewarded for my patience in the queues with a 3070 and a different 3060 Ti. The 3070 is currently in mine and the 3060 Ti is in my son's system. I'm still looking for a 3080 for mine and then my son will get the 3070 and my daughter his 3060 Ti once I can build MY new system. Really itching for a new 5800x based system with what looks like will be the 3898 hybrid as I'm about 5 minutes away in that queue also.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:49:19
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Bora1114
discoglen25 people on the forum are funny a lot of people keep asking what in this case what evga is doing about scalpers and what are they going to do. First evga is a business which means they sell a product to earn money. Just like scalpers buy something and then turn around and sell it for more then they paid for it. what is evga to do about the problem with the queue it is only 1 card per each sku so it is limited in a way. yes they could look deeper and check to see if different accounts have the same shipping or payment information. But at the same time it would slow everything down more and then people would be upset about that. Evga is in a no win situation whatever they do someone will have an issue with it but at least they have tried something instead of just letting bots buy all there stock up as soon as it restocks. I have been waiting since 12/1 but i didn't know about it until 840 pm pt for the 3663 which i know will be a long wait. from the forum i am closer to 3657 which from some posts i am only maybe 2 minutes from now. I am bothered by the wait as much as everyone else but i will wait until i get the 3060 and 3060 ti hopefully before prices go up again.
Yes it would take longer but it would allow for others in queue to get cards faster. I am not happy with scalpers however I completely understand they serve a purpose. I am recommending EVGA cancel all orders/notifies for known scalper accounts. This would be excellent PR and would lead to more brand loyalty in the future. The side effect being some people get cards faster. I agree the system is better than any other systems.
EVGA has a limit in place of 1 SKU per household, so even changing your name on the order isn't going to get another of the same card sent to your address. If someone wants to use my name and address to send their card to, guess what, it's my card now
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:52:50
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Cawyke The people that bought these are customers also. They have decided to purchase and sell at a higher price. Just like people with tickets to sporting events and concerts. I'm not sure where you're from but ticket scalping is illegal or heavily restricted in several US states.
A few states regulate against it, but from my understanding there is no federal law. There are 15 states that carry a misdemeanor charge for scalping. I am not in one of those states, I am in a state that regulates against it. If we want to end scalping the consumer needs to stop purchasing from the scalpers until the supply returns to normal.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:53:02
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Cawyke You said you defend scalping, yet say they shouldn't be doing it. Fallacy This is a normal market function using a queue system, there is nothing against selling these cards at a higher price after purchasing through the queue system. That was a general statement to the people who are whining about not getting a card through the queue system yet. Which is a continual thing on this forum. To be fair I should have clarified because it did seem like I was attacking you. My apologies. You shouldn't have put that information here, you should have sent it to EVGA directly.
Incorrect, you are mischaracterizing my argument. I do defend scalping because it serves a normal market function to get the price of a good to the going market price if the supply and demand curve is not in equilibrium. (<--- This is a fact of the free market) I am not happy with scalpers and want a company to stop some scalping on a system they designed. (<-- this is an opinion on how a company in the free market should conduct its business) These are 2 statements are not mutually exclusive, therefor it cannot be a fallacy. I never stated there is anything wrong with selling cards at a higher price. I agree completely. A company is an entity that can do whatever it wants within the market so long as its not legally bound. My opinion states they should ban known scalper accounts and cancel notifies. This would offer them great PR and probably gain a lot of brand loyalty. Also some people will get their cards earlier. ( I am not queued for any hydro coppers) Thank you for the apology. I get there are lots complaining here too. I did send the info to EVGA but it is all publicly available info that is easy to find. Takes 2 seconds. One guy is even selling 2 cards meaning he multi accounted. Public opinion is important for companies.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:54:27
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No hope for 3663 but seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for 3657, hopefully tomorrow (or the day after tomorrow) at the same momentum like the past 3 days. I just don't understand how people can list 3657 at the price of $800 - $1000 at craigs or ebay, who would buy it with double/triple the price to get a mid-range GPU? 12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:34:25 AM PT No 12G-P5-3655-KR 2/25/2021 9:30:22 AM PT No 08G-P5-3663-KR 2/1/2021 5:05:57 PM PT No
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:55:59
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I am aware but I also know if a person really wants to they will find a way around it. all i am saying is that evga has put the best attempt of getting their cards to the people instead of bots but like everything no system is perfect either.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:56:04
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discoglen25 people on the forum are funny a lot of people keep asking what in this case what evga is doing about scalpers and what are they going to do. First evga is a business which means they sell a product to earn money. Just like scalpers buy something and then turn around and sell it for more then they paid for it. what is evga to do about the problem with the queue it is only 1 card per each sku so it is limited in a way. yes they could look deeper and check to see if different accounts have the same shipping or payment information. But at the same time it would slow everything down more and then people would be upset about that. Evga is in a no win situation whatever they do someone will have an issue with it but at least they have tried something instead of just letting bots buy all there stock up as soon as it restocks. I have been waiting since 12/1 but i didn't know about it until 840 pm pt for the 3663 which i know will be a long wait. from the forum i am closer to 3657 which from some posts i am only maybe 2 minutes from now. I am bothered by the wait as much as everyone else but i will wait until i get the 3060 and 3060 ti hopefully before prices go up again.
Yes it would take longer but it would allow for others in queue to get cards faster. I am not happy with scalpers however I completely understand they serve a purpose. I am recommending EVGA cancel all orders/notifies for known scalper accounts. This would be excellent PR and would lead to more brand loyalty in the future. The side effect being some people get cards faster. I agree the system is better than any other systems.
EVGA has a limit in place of 1 SKU per household, so even changing your name on the order isn't going to get another of the same card sent to your address. If someone wants to use my name and address to send their card to, guess what, it's my card now
One seller of the HC 3080 has 2 available. /shrug Like i said its my opinion but known scalpers could have their entire notify queues canceled.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 12:59:16
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discoglen25 I am aware but I also know if a person really wants to they will find a way around it. all i am saying is that evga has put the best attempt of getting their cards to the people instead of bots but like everything no system is perfect either.
Of course they will! There is a way around everything. I agree they have done the best however it does not mean they couldn't make it better. It is my opinion, if they banned the easily spotted scalpers, they could make the system better and get brownie points too.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:01:25
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Hi guys. I'm from Russia, but my brother lives in Toronto. Do I understand right that cards from queue can be sold only in USA and Canada?
And for example if he joins the queue, how long it takes to get a card? One month, 2 months, 3? Asking for 3070 and 3080
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:08:53
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M.bakuvi Hi guys. I'm from Russia, but my brother lives in Toronto. Do I understand right that cards from queue can be sold only in USA and Canada?
And for example if he joins the queue, how long it takes to get a card? One month, 2 months, 3? Asking for 3070 and 3080
There is a NA queue and EU queue. If he joins now, most card will probably be 6 months or more.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:13:16
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M.bakuvi Hi guys. I'm from Russia, but my brother lives in Toronto. Do I understand right that cards from queue can be sold only in USA and Canada?
And for example if he joins the queue, how long it takes to get a card? One month, 2 months, 3? Asking for 3070 and 3080
At this point, I would expect a worst case scenario in waiting on the queues. Probably 3 months at least. This is not any kind of knock on EVGA just the nature of the beast when it comes to the supply and demand right now.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:13:37
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Bora1114 There is a NA queue and EU queue. If he joins now, most card will probably be 6 months or more.
Is Russia included in EU queue? It's better to order me for eu (russia) or to order him for NA?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:16:48
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svnipp Probably 3 months at least.Â
U know, 3 month is nothing to wait. Anyway it's better to wait even 6 month, rather to wait normal prices in Russia. In January 3080 was here 1600$ , but now it costs 3000$ already
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:20:10
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I am a noob to the forums here, but how did they notify the community before enabling the Hybrid cards notify/queue?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:23:46
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drewc13 I am a noob to the forums here, but how did they notify the community before enabling the Hybrid cards notify/queue?
Twitter I believe along with other EVGA social media channels.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:24:49
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Ciao, come faccio a sapere quanti altri fanno la fila davanti a me?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
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drewc13
 I am a noob to the forums here, but how did they notify the community before enabling the Hybrid cards notify/queue?
It was announced few days before. Thats why theres a massive congestion around 9:05/9:11 for the 3898/3888 because everyone tried to enter when it opened.
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2021/03/10 13:26:55
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svnipp
drewc13 I am a noob to the forums here, but how did they notify the community before enabling the Hybrid cards notify/queue?
Twitter I believe along with other EVGA social media channels.
Ok thank you. I have been following Jake for a bit, but I don't remember seeing a tweet before the hybrids dropped (I could have missed it). I want to sign up as early as possible for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra HC
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2021/03/10 13:32:45
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drewc13
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drewc13 I am a noob to the forums here, but how did they notify the community before enabling the Hybrid cards notify/queue?
Twitter I believe along with other EVGA social media channels.
Ok thank you. I have been following Jake for a bit, but I don't remember seeing a tweet before the hybrids dropped (I could have missed it). I want to sign up as early as possible for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra HC
3090 FTW3 Ultra HC dropped last year... 11/13/2020 This week was when people who signed up that day finally got their notify to buy.
post edited by actek23 - 2021/03/10 13:34:59
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/10 13:34:19
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Edguydream Ciao, come faccio a sapere quanti altri fanno la fila davanti a me?
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