xeddex
Queue is "fair" because it's first come first serve and so people who took the time and made the effort to be earlier than others get their chance first.
 
Lottery is "fair" because absolutely nobody is preferred and there is literally nothing a person can do to effect their chances.
 
Both ways work.  However, there's a reason that grocery stores, banks, etc all use queues instead of lotteries.  (Hint: it cuts down on all the fist fights, stabbings and shootings considerably)

Phlier
Just got my invite to purchase 10G-P5-3897-KR, which I just got done completing.
 
My signup date/time for this card was 9/20/20 at just after six a.m. EVGA time.

https.shaf
10G-P5-3897-KR 9/20/2020 8:55:09 AM PT Yes
omfg i cant believe this, also I used your code enewt! good luck to you who are still waiting may your wait be short

subdude

Hitch_Itch
I just came across this at Reddit,
Do you think the figure are anywhere near to being true?
If so Good Luck on getting a card with 500,000 people in que
Link to post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/...as_over_500000_unique/
EVGA's Notify Queue has Over 500,000 Unique Notification Requests since the 3080 Launch




Discussion


EVGA's queue system uses an incrementing counter for every requested notification. This system applies to all products on the EVGA website. Despite this, it can be used as a rough gauge for overall demand. You can see the IDs of your entries on the MyNotifies page.
https://www.evga.com/community/myNotifies.aspTo see it, you can inspect-element the page and see the ID attached to the remove button.Using this data from my own notifies and some data from other people, I was able to determine the approximate length of the queue.
Remember, this is for ALL EVGA products that people signed up for notifications on, not any individual card.As of 9/17 @ 7am notifies were at ~1140000As of 9/21 @ 5pm, notifies were at ~1210000As of 10/6 @ 7pm, notifies were at ~1370000As of 10/7 @ 7pm, notifies were at ~1445000As of 10/23 @ 2pm, notifies were at ~1590000This shows us that there is almost 500,000 unique notifications between 9/17 @ 7am and today on the EVGA store alone. While we can't assume that all notification requests are for a 3000 series card, we can assume the majority are.What could be interesting is mapping out the total number of requests vs date. We could use that to roughly map ID + date + card to where the ACTUAL queue position is.Edit: I can't do basic subtraction. That's 450,000 not 500,000. Either way, it's still a gigantic queue.

I'll let someone else monkey around with the 'remove' button lol. I'm not getting near that thing ;)

xeddex
I think the way this is going to play out is that NVidia won't hardware block it (because they're not going to physically change anything about the chips and all that would involve).  It'll be a driver block (so software).  Anyone that has a card because they mine 24/7 and so don't care about gaming will circumvent that software block easily every time NVidia puts it in a driver.  The only people who it will effect will be gamers who also want to mine on the side because they won't want to mess with flip/flopping drivers or installing "hacked" drivers from shady sources.  So it'll have zero impact where they're trying to make an impact.  The only thing that might have an impact is their new "mining" compute cards but ONLY if the miners calculate that it's a better return on investment.

nick_shl
Found interesting thing. You can right click on "Remove Notify", then select "Inspect Element"(for Firefox). You'll see this:
onclick="return removeNotify('2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM');"
I bet that first parameter it is sequential number in line. There is my queue:
'2536211','08G-P5-3663-KR','2/15/2021 7:49:07 PM'
'2536213','08G-P5-3667-KR','2/15/2021 7:50:00 PM'
'2621460','08G-P5-3751-KR','2/24/2021 8:49:08 AM'
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM'
Unfortunately I cant check ID for product that I already was notified:
12G-P5-3657-KR     2/25/2021 9:03:28 AM PT    Yes
And because it is mixed queue(you can see my two first records - 53 second difference and 2 difference in ID) it does not provides much information.

xeddex

cnnorrisjr

xeddex
Queue is "fair" because it's first come first serve and so people who took the time and made the effort to be earlier than others get their chance first.

Lottery is "fair" because absolutely nobody is preferred and there is literally nothing a person can do to effect their chances.

Both ways work.  However, there's a reason that grocery stores, banks, etc all use queues instead of lotteries.  (Hint: it cuts down on all the fist fights, stabbings and shootings considerably)

You won’t have fist fights over gpus sold online.

No, but all the emotion behind those fist fights still ends up being create and that's not good.
 
Human nature is that if you know you're got to wait in a line then you won't get super pissed as long as you think you can handle the wait.  However, if you know you've got to show up and get in a line and you go to get in that line and see the line goes around the block twice then you're instantly pissed and start voicing the opinion that a lottery should have been used instead.  Truth be told, folks that show up to get in line when the line isn't that long never start talking about how it should have been a lottery; it's only the folk way down the line who are pissed at being so far back.