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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:13:32
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Bora1114
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Found interesting thing. You can right click on "Remove Notify", then select "Inspect Element"(for Firefox). You'll see this:
onclick="return removeNotify('2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM');"
I bet that first parameter it is sequential number in line. There is my queue:
'2536211','08G-P5-3663-KR','2/15/2021 7:49:07 PM'
'2536213','08G-P5-3667-KR','2/15/2021 7:50:00 PM'
'2621460','08G-P5-3751-KR','2/24/2021 8:49:08 AM'
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM'
Unfortunately I cant check ID for product that I already was notified:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28 AM PT Yes
And because it is mixed queue(you can see my two first records - 53 second difference and 2 difference in ID) it does not provides much information.
We can probably extrapolate a good amount of data from this given some basic assumptions.
Totally! Can someone who got their notify do this trick to see what their sequential number is? If it’s not too complicated we could factor this into the spreadsheet. Edit: maybe someone who is close to the top of the queue could check their number, since it goes away after you’re notified. Buuuuut only if it doesn’t remove you from the queue.
post edited by sdjablonski - 2021/03/05 11:16:53
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:14:14
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I also think the queue system is the best way to serve the overall good of the community. Having a lottery is not the greatest idea, look at all the flack New Egg is going through with their shuffle. I think that retailers like new egg are doing their best to serve their customers needs while trying to be fair. As much as I don't want to stand in line, I'd rather stand in line than try to get lucky.
The only thing that would be nice is if EVGA would come out and say where they are as far as notifying the group. I'm not saying they have to tell how many cards went out, but where they are on the distribution list would be nice. Say "We are currently notifying users who registered up to xxxx date and time. If anything happens to those who are tracking the notifications such as Enewt here in North America, where would everyone turn to for information/hope? I actually like seeing him post and his comments, but no one can say for sure he will be here doing this for x-amount of months/years. If anything he gives me hope that at least that much closer to getting the card I want. I know I couldn't do what he does tracking all that info and being supportive of the group overall.
Everyone is like COVID stressed out. Waiting for a card and watching little movement is hard. But the truth is no one forces you to stand in line either. It's hard to gauge by just time alone since we don't know if 10 or a 100 people signed up at that point in time. But this is our best solution as a group for now and that's all we can look to.
I don't know of any other manufacturer who is doing something like this and taking the time to manage this type of service. This system is not perfect, but it is what it is.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:16:54
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nick_shl
You should tell this to US government
This isn't a thread about government policy though so "Queue is best" can be safely read in context of GPU sales. But you can queue here, lottery on Newegg and have the best of both worlds. Hooray!
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:20:02
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Gotspeed_2000
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If anything happens to those who are tracking the notifications such as Enewt here in North America, where would everyone turn to for information/hope? I actually like seeing him post and his comments, but no one can say for sure he will be here doing this for x-amount of months/years. If anything he gives me hope that at least that much closer to getting the card I want. I know I couldn't do what he does tracking all that info and being supportive of the group overall.
<snip>
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:21:23
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nick_shl
Found interesting thing. You can right click on "Remove Notify", then select "Inspect Element"(for Firefox). You'll see this:
onclick="return removeNotify('2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM');"
I bet that first parameter it is sequential number in line. There is my queue:
'2536211','08G-P5-3663-KR','2/15/2021 7:49:07 PM'
'2536213','08G-P5-3667-KR','2/15/2021 7:50:00 PM'
'2621460','08G-P5-3751-KR','2/24/2021 8:49:08 AM'
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM'
Unfortunately I cant check ID for product that I already was notified:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28 AM PT Yes
And because it is mixed queue(you can see my two first records - 53 second difference and 2 difference in ID) it does not provides much information.
Good analysis. I can't know the exact system, but I've been a web app developer for 20 years. My thought is that the table for notifications is setup with an autoincrement ID field. If so, that number COULD be a good indicator of how many people have signed up for ALL products (older cards, power supplies, heck, any product that's ever gone out of stock since the creation of the table). Also, autoincrement keys can be setup to start at any number, so we can't be positive that the first person to sign up for a notification got the number 1.
post edited by 6dust - 2021/03/05 11:23:26
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:22:28
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cnnorrisjr
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Queue is "fair" because it's first come first serve and so people who took the time and made the effort to be earlier than others get their chance first.
Lottery is "fair" because absolutely nobody is preferred and there is literally nothing a person can do to effect their chances.
Both ways work. However, there's a reason that grocery stores, banks, etc all use queues instead of lotteries. (Hint: it cuts down on all the fist fights, stabbings and shootings considerably)
You won’t have fist fights over gpus sold online.
No, but all the emotion behind those fist fights still ends up being create and that's not good.
Human nature is that if you know you're got to wait in a line then you won't get super pissed as long as you think you can handle the wait. However, if you know you've got to show up and get in a line and you go to get in that line and see the line goes around the block twice then you're instantly pissed and start voicing the opinion that a lottery should have been used instead. Truth be told, folks that show up to get in line when the line isn't that long never start talking about how it should have been a lottery; it's only the folk way down the line who are pissed at being so far back.
No. No. No.
People are upset over the lack of production of 3080 blacks and 3080 gaming. EVGA prioritizing water cooled gpus over air. People being upset has nothing to do spots in line.
If you had read the previous posts today, you might realize that you're not correct there. I'm not saying there aren't people upset about lack of 3080 black and 3080 gaming, but there are definitely people upset that if they just showed up, they can't jump the line with a lottery system...on account of how long the line is.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:27:46
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sdjablonski
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nick_shl
Found interesting thing. You can right click on "Remove Notify", then select "Inspect Element"(for Firefox). You'll see this:
onclick="return removeNotify('2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM');"
I bet that first parameter it is sequential number in line. There is my queue:
'2536211','08G-P5-3663-KR','2/15/2021 7:49:07 PM'
'2536213','08G-P5-3667-KR','2/15/2021 7:50:00 PM'
'2621460','08G-P5-3751-KR','2/24/2021 8:49:08 AM'
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM'
Unfortunately I cant check ID for product that I already was notified:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28 AM PT Yes
And because it is mixed queue(you can see my two first records - 53 second difference and 2 difference in ID) it does not provides much information.
We can probably extrapolate a good amount of data from this given some basic assumptions.
Totally! Can someone who got their notify do this trick to see what their sequential number is? If it’s not too complicated we could factor this into the spreadsheet.
Edit: maybe someone who is close to the top of the queue could check their number, since it goes away after you’re notified. Buuuuut only if it doesn’t remove you from the queue.
('2650934','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:20:21 AM');"> thats my info for the 3655 might help to correlate
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:27:55
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This is my right click info on my que, if those bold numbers represent my position in Que, that's a lot people in front of me
It would be interesting to see what number someone has that was notified today to purchase a GPU. That might tell us how many cards have been sold and how far back a person in the Que
(301574),'10G-P5-3897-KR','9/29/2020 6:33:59 AM')
(2083002),'10G-P5-3898-KR','12/16/2020 9:11:04 AM')
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:30:19
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stoney77788
sdjablonski
Bora1114
nick_shl
Found interesting thing. You can right click on "Remove Notify", then select "Inspect Element"(for Firefox). You'll see this:
onclick="return removeNotify('2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM');"
I bet that first parameter it is sequential number in line. There is my queue:
'2536211','08G-P5-3663-KR','2/15/2021 7:49:07 PM'
'2536213','08G-P5-3667-KR','2/15/2021 7:50:00 PM'
'2621460','08G-P5-3751-KR','2/24/2021 8:49:08 AM'
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM'
Unfortunately I cant check ID for product that I already was notified:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28 AM PT Yes
And because it is mixed queue(you can see my two first records - 53 second difference and 2 difference in ID) it does not provides much information.
We can probably extrapolate a good amount of data from this given some basic assumptions.
Totally! Can someone who got their notify do this trick to see what their sequential number is? If it’s not too complicated we could factor this into the spreadsheet.
Edit: maybe someone who is close to the top of the queue could check their number, since it goes away after you’re notified. Buuuuut only if it doesn’t remove you from the queue.
('2650934','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:20:21 AM');">
thats my info for the 3655
might help to correlate
Nice. Is there someone who’s closer to 9:12 for the 3655 queue? A potential wrinkle in this is that EVGA could be using that sequential number across all SKUs, in which case it would be much more complicated to calculate the number of people in front of you in the queue.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:31:09
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That's an ID for sure, not sure it's linear, let's reverse engineer it!
('2649695','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:16:12 AM');"
('2649516','12G-P5-3657-KR','2/25/2021 9:15:40 AM');"
It could be the ID is linear but across products. That's what I would do if I design the table ;)
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:31:27
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dont think those numbers mean anything like that
mine for 3897 is 1222740 and 9/21
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:31:54
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Those numbers might be primary keys or UIDs in the Notify database or some sort of other relational identifier. Or you could be in 2 millionth place for a 3060ti.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:31:58
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Hitch_Itch
This is my right click info on my que, if those bold numbers represent my position in Que, that's a lot people in front of me
It would be interesting to see what number someone has that was notified today to purchase a GPU. That might tell us how many cards have been sold and how far back a person in the Que
(301574),'10G-P5-3897-KR','9/29/2020 6:33:59 AM')
(2083002),'10G-P5-3898-KR','12/16/2020 9:11:04 AM')
Can ya double check the 3897? Should be 1301574
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:33:01
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drewski989
Those numbers might be primary keys or UIDs in the Notify database or some sort of other relational identifier. Or you could be in 2 millionth place for a 3060ti.
It counts all cards not just one specific sku. The number started at 1 million as well on 9/16
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:33:53
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6dust
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Found interesting thing. You can right click on "Remove Notify", then select "Inspect Element"(for Firefox). You'll see this:
onclick="return removeNotify('2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM');"
I bet that first parameter it is sequential number in line. There is my queue:
'2536211','08G-P5-3663-KR','2/15/2021 7:49:07 PM'
'2536213','08G-P5-3667-KR','2/15/2021 7:50:00 PM'
'2621460','08G-P5-3751-KR','2/24/2021 8:49:08 AM'
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2763272','12G-P5-3657-KR','3/2/2021 7:12:01 AM'
Unfortunately I cant check ID for product that I already was notified:
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28 AM PT Yes
And because it is mixed queue(you can see my two first records - 53 second difference and 2 difference in ID) it does not provides much information.
Good analysis. I can't know the exact system, but I've been a web app developer for 20 years. My thought is that the table for notifications is setup with an autoincrement ID field. If so, that number COULD be a good indicator of how many people have signed up for ALL products (older cards, power supplies, heck, any product that's been out of stock since the creation of the table). Also, autoincrement keys can be setup to start at any number, so we can't be positive that the first person to sign up for a notification got the number 1.
Repeating myself a little due to a temporal anomaly that is working to right itself. The table for the type of information cited above can be found within this tag (and it appears to be total iterative, not for any single signup): table class="table-gotyourback" If that's how EVGA names their tables for the queue they alone amongst AIBs have set up, then that has to make you feel pretty good about how they see this process. We can't always help getting down, or frustrated, but just remember that the vast majority of that is outside of EVGAs hands. If you don't want to praise them, don't. Constructive criticism seems fair too. But simply lashing out at the company and others here simply because they are supportive of that company isn't cool. Nor does it really align with reality. Sure, they are a for profit business, but they have some very consumer friendly policies and continue to add even more.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:34:48
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Hitch_Itch
(2083002),'10G-P5-3898-KR','12/16/2020 9:11:04 AM')
Pulled from my friend's (2081426),'10G-P5-3898-KR','12/16/2020 9:06:11 AM')
10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:06:11 AM PT Yes 10G-P5-3888-KR 12/10/2020 9:09:35 AM PT Yes 08G-P5-3767-KR 11/9/2020 11:14:20 AM PT Yes 12G-P5-3968-KR 6/3/2021 7:43:23 AM PT Yes 10G-P5-3897-KR 10/29/2020 7:52:54 AM PT No 12G-P5-3967-KR 6/3/2021 8:25:18 AM PT No
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:35:38
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Enewt;
Awesome story it made my day. NEE!!
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:36:50
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Bora1114
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Those numbers might be primary keys or UIDs in the Notify database or some sort of other relational identifier. Or you could be in 2 millionth place for a 3060ti.
It counts all cards not just one specific sku. The number started at 1 million as well on 9/16
The last part was sarcasm... I am willing to bet it is a primary or relational UID from whatever database table EVGA uses to track "Notifies".
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:37:23
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Its also helpful if people give the IDs of all products on notify.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:42:48
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The Queue is better because it stops a person from effectively wining the lottery multiple times on the same product and guaranteeing that another will not lose the lottery against another that has already won multiple times. In the example of the Newegg shuffles it is a new lottery each time in theory so every time you enter your odds of winning are the same as everyone else and thus means you could win or lose multiple times. I much prefer to wait in the queue as at least eventually my number will come up. And I am one of those that got in the line way late on most of the SKUs because I did not even know about the que until days after the announcement that there was even going to be a queue and I did not click the auto notify buttons on launch day because I was not financially ready to purchase one then and had no idea that supply was going to be so bad.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:45:07
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I could get on my soapbox again, but I won't, it is becoming somewhat entertaining reading continued nonsense. People hate to blame themselves, yet love to accuse others.
EVGA has my business, always has, and has done nothing but earn it again and again over the last months. Personally, this shill will feel really guilty today whilst playing on my K|ngP|n, why do I support such an evil company??? LOL, ridiculous.
It is becoming quite comedic. If they lash out too much on the forums maybe EVGA should do them a favor and cancel their notifies lmao
This
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:51:36
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Beasthunt
What are you talking about, your reply is fishing for upvotes in a forum with no upvote statem so no fake validation for you shilling! You are the clowns making excuses for EVGA constantly screwing over the loyal user base.
"Not a charity"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Could you at least TRY to think before shilling. We are trying to...wait for it....hold on a second....BUY a card from them, not aak for something for free. An accidental amount of intelligence is all that is required before posting.
I'm Capitalist not a Shill, I have received nothing from EVGA other then the opportunity to buy their product and opportunity I have not been able to find elsewhere. I have 3080 FTW3 from signing up on 9/17 before the Queue was announced, it was a product I wanted and I signed up to be notified anyone else in the US or Canada could have done the same.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:51:50
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So for the 3060 my queues are:
12G-P5-3655-KR 2/25/2021 10:51:18 AM PT
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 10:50:55 AM PT
Trying to estimate my place, what is the best guess of when I will get notified??
With those times, likely months, my friend... O_o
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:54:58
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enewt...that cat is all of us.
-Nanite 10G-P5-3888-KR 1/5/2021 2:32:40 PM PT No 10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 12:23:45 PM PT No 10G-P5-3885-KR 11/5/2020 4:51:26 PM PT No 10G-P5-3883-KR 11/5/2020 4:50:49 PM PT No 10G-P5-3881-KR 11/5/2020 4:49:22 PM PT No 10G-P5-3897-KR 11/5/2020 4:48:44 PM PT No 10G-P5-3895-KR 11/5/2020 4:47:42 PM PT No
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:55:38
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Great to see queues moving today! Happy Friday everyone!
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:56:48
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Also interesting. Using nick_shi's time with two of mine following his.
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2653501','12G-P5-3657-KR','2/25/2021 9:31:23 AM' (363 change in 90 seconds)
'2654381','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:33:27 AM' (880 change in 124 seconds)
I think around 9:30 is when the site started to thaw. That may be why there's a higher per minute signup between my two below. If you generally assume this was all 3060 action, and more people wanted the 55<?> than the 57.. let's call it maybe guesstimating 300ish sign-ups per minute on the 55. I can't say if there was a much larger number in the first couple of minutes, and since all of those people got notifies, we probably can't know that.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 11:58:50
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Nanite1969
enewt...that cat is all of us.
That made me snarf my diet coke. Shame on you. Seriously, I've tried everything I can think of on a Friday morning to decrease the saltiness in here today (storytime...a picture of my butt)...I got nothing left. I am off to some work calls. Will be back on later.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 12:02:28
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I also think the queue system is the best way to serve the overall good of the community. Having a lottery is not the greatest idea, look at all the flack New Egg is going through with their shuffle. I think that retailers like new egg are doing their best to serve their customers needs while trying to be fair. As much as I don't want to stand in line, I'd rather stand in line than try to get lucky.
The only thing that would be nice is if EVGA would come out and say where they are as far as notifying the group. I'm not saying they have to tell how many cards went out, but where they are on the distribution list would be nice. Say "We are currently notifying users who registered up to xxxx date and time. If anything happens to those who are tracking the notifications such as Enewt here in North America, where would everyone turn to for information/hope? I actually like seeing him post and his comments, but no one can say for sure he will be here doing this for x-amount of months/years. If anything he gives me hope that at least that much closer to getting the card I want. I know I couldn't do what he does tracking all that info and being supportive of the group overall.
Everyone is like COVID stressed out. Waiting for a card and watching little movement is hard. But the truth is no one forces you to stand in line either. It's hard to gauge by just time alone since we don't know if 10 or a 100 people signed up at that point in time. But this is our best solution as a group for now and that's all we can look to.
I don't know of any other manufacturer who is doing something like this and taking the time to manage this type of service. This system is not perfect, but it is what it is.
We also collect information by crowd sourcing data in the Spreadsheet Megathread - EVGA Forums. If we were to give up maintaining ourselves we'd most likely find someone else to take it over that is interested. We are not at those days though.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/03/05 12:04:10
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Also interesting. Using nick_shi's time with two of mine following his.
'2653138','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM'
'2653501','12G-P5-3657-KR','2/25/2021 9:31:23 AM' (363 change in 90 seconds)
'2654381','12G-P5-3655-KR','2/25/2021 9:33:27 AM' (880 change in 124 seconds) 12G-P5-3655-KR 2649695 - 2/25/2021 9:16:12 AM 2650934 - 2/25/2021 9:20:21 AM 2653138 - 2/25/2021 9:29:54 AM 1239 difference between first two. 2204 difference include second two. Looks promising. Half of that probably 3657 and line for that moves much faster.
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