enewt
The string of Straggler Mondays continues. It strangles our gaggle; it struggles against our huddle. (Yup, I am a bit loopy today.)
 
Seriously, though, if a group of crows is a murder of crows, Camels -- a caravan, Owls --- a parliament, stingrays -- a fever, what is our group of queue watchers to be called? 

• A quorum of queue watchers?
• On salty days, a quarrel of queue watchers?
• A quest?
• On days with no drops, a quod? 

Frankly, I will take any answer other than a quiche of queue watchers...that just sounds wrong.
 
Hopefully tomorrow will be full of EVGA_JacobF's drawing efforts and lots of iceberg references...Titanic Tuesday in less than 24 hours....
 
Best of luck!
 
As of 1:20 pm PT Monday, July 26, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of July 26; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report)):
 
Card                                   SKU                    Most Recent Notify Timestamp to Receive an Invite to Purchase email
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                   11/20/2020 06:55:55  
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                   10/06/2020 09:10:42  
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3967                    06/03/2021 07:46:03  
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra               3955                    06/03/2021 07:22:36  
3080 FTW3 Ultra                3897-KR               09/22/2020 12:44:46
3080 FTW3 Ultra                3897-KL               10/05/2020 19:54:36        (00:12:28)
3080 XC3 Ultra                  3885-KR               09/18/2020 13:53:00 
3080 XC3 Ultra                  3885-KL               09/18/2020 14:42:39
3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3797                   06/10/2021 06:36:53 
3070 Ti XC3 Ultra               3785                    06/15/2021 09:03:58
3070 FTW3 Ultra                3767-KR               02/16/2021 17:25:43  
3070 FTW3 Ultra                3767-KL               12/01/2020 17:52:05 
3070 XC3 Ultra                  3755-KR               12/07/2020 19:40:37 
3070 XC3 Ultra                  3755-KL                12/01/2020 07:36:49
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra            3667-KR                12/01/2020 07:30:47
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra            3667-KL                12/01/2020 07:38:35 
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming           3985                     09/24/2020 16:12:06      
3090 XC3 Gaming             3973                     09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming          3953                     06/30/2021 06:30:25 
3080 FTW3 Gaming           3895                     09/21/2020 09:57:19 
3080 XC3 Gaming              3883                     09/16/2020 11:14:32 
3070 Ti XC3 Gaming          3783                     06/30/2021 06:01:46 
3070 XC3 Gaming              3753                     10/29/2020 06:21:40  
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming        3665                     12/08/2020 18:52:16  
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663-KR               12/01/2020 07:35:17  
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663-KL               12/01/2020 07:39:50  
3060 XC Gaming                3657                    03/05/2021 09:14:28  
 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                 3971                     09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                 3881-KR                09/16/2020 15:25:37 
3080 XC3 Black                 3881-KL                09/16/2020 15:38:15 
3070 XC3 Black                 3751                     10/29/2020 06:31:11  
3060 XC Black                   3655                     02/25/2021 09:08:54 
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid      3988                    12/24/2020 15:20:52 
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid        3978                    12/14/2020 12:25:38
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid  3968                     06/03/2021 07:43:58 
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hybrid    3958                     06/03/2021 07:47:58 
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid      3898-KR               12/16/2020 09:10:17
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid      3898-KL                12/16/2020 09:11:47 
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid        3888-KR                12/10/2020 09:12:47 
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid        3888-KL                12/10/2020 09:13:30 
 
Hydro Copper 
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC          3989                     04/15/2021 10:00:29  
3090 XC3 Ultra HC             3979                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 
3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra HC       3969                     06/03/2021 07:43:36 
3080 Ti XC3 Ultra HC          3959                     06/15/2021 09:23:46 
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC           3899                     06/23/2021 06:00:15 
3080 XC3 Ultra HC             3889                     06/23/2021 06:00:09 

K|NGP|N 
K|NGP|N HC (Queue)          3999                    06/15/2021 09:15:54 
K|NGP|N Hybrid (Queue)     3998                    02/14/2021 16:29:21
K|NGP|N HC Kit                  1999                    06/08/2021 06:41:59  

 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Best of luck!   twene  
 

I gotta go with a quackery of queue watchers

So I'm on the queue for the 3968, which hasn't moved more than 30 seconds since launch nearly 2 months ago. With that said, I'm thinking of buying the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra (air cooled) from elsewhere and then debating between buying the EVGA hybrid kit or the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO kit. Anyone have any thoughts between the two?

usak90
So I'm on the queue for the 3968, which hasn't moved more than 30 seconds since launch nearly 2 months ago. With that said, I'm thinking of buying the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra (air cooled) from elsewhere and then debating between buying the EVGA hybrid kit or the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO kit. Anyone have any thoughts between the two?

I can't comment on the Alphacool as I've never used one, but I did just install the EVGA hybrid kit on my 3080 ti FTW3 this weekend. Before and after testing in Time Spy showed about a 22°C drop on the GPU core, and that was with higher clock speeds. If you look at this comparison, the first score shown is with the Hybrid kit and a couple minutes of tweaking sliders, the second is with the air cooler and even less time playing with sliders, and the third score is bone-stock 3967 air cooled result. My new Overclocked run is still 20°C cooler than the stock run on the air cooler. The hybrid kit was pretty easy to install on the card, just be really careful when removing the cooler as the putty and thermal pads have some surface tension/stickiness to break free and there are 4 little cables to disconnect that you don't want to rip out in the process. I have some pictures in the build-log in my signature.

johcamp21
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/80778/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-leaks-beast-gpu-100-faster-than-3090/index.html
 
100% percent performance increase over 3090? Highly doubtful.
 
Also. 30 series supers on the way.
 
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/80613/nvidia-rumored-gpu-refresh-geforce-rtx-30-super-coming-soon/index.html
 

johcamp21; I needed a rewards code for registering my 3080Ti and yours was the first one I found so I used it. Not sure what you get for that, but hopefully it's something good 😁.

tshalev

phroze

usak90
So I'm on the queue for the 3968, which hasn't moved more than 30 seconds since launch nearly 2 months ago. With that said, I'm thinking of buying the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra (air cooled) from elsewhere and then debating between buying the EVGA hybrid kit or the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO kit. Anyone have any thoughts between the two?

Personally I'd avoid the EVGA hybrid kits. They actually get worse temps on the VRAM than the air cooled counterparts which is where it matters most on these high end 30 series cards with GDDR6X

I'm not sure about when you're adding the hybrid kit on yourself, but I've tried mining on my 3968, and memory junction temps don't go above 86. Core is at 50, and clocks are at 2100MHz. I have no real experience in mining and I know that 3080 Tis are limited for ETH, but I'm getting a hashrate of around 61 for ETH. Probably could be better for alternative algorithms.
 
That being said, I agree that if you were looking into pricier AIO solutions you might be able to squeeze out more performance.

On my 3953 mem junction doesn't go above 82 while mining eth. Getting 66mh/s. EVGA support actually kind of  admitted to the issue awhile back. Here are the threads. 
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Geforce-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-RAM-junction-temperatures-are-awful-m3265393.aspx
 
https://forums.evga.com/3080-XC3-Ultra-Hybrid-Memory-Temperatures-m3213893.aspx

jorjelul
Hmmm, just ordered Today the hybrid kit for my 3080 xc3 ultra. Hoping to see improvements on the vram…

It is inferior to the air cooler for cooling vram, sorry man.

tshalev

phroze

tshalev

phroze

usak90
So I'm on the queue for the 3968, which hasn't moved more than 30 seconds since launch nearly 2 months ago. With that said, I'm thinking of buying the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra (air cooled) from elsewhere and then debating between buying the EVGA hybrid kit or the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO kit. Anyone have any thoughts between the two?

Personally I'd avoid the EVGA hybrid kits. They actually get worse temps on the VRAM than the air cooled counterparts which is where it matters most on these high end 30 series cards with GDDR6X

I'm not sure about when you're adding the hybrid kit on yourself, but I've tried mining on my 3968, and memory junction temps don't go above 86. Core is at 50, and clocks are at 2100MHz. I have no real experience in mining and I know that 3080 Tis are limited for ETH, but I'm getting a hashrate of around 61 for ETH. Probably could be better for alternative algorithms.
 
That being said, I agree that if you were looking into pricier AIO solutions you might be able to squeeze out more performance.

On my 3953 mem junction doesn't go above 82 while mining eth. Getting 66mh/s. EVGA support actually kind of  admitted to the issue awhile back. Here are the threads. 
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Geforce-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-RAM-junction-temperatures-are-awful-m3265393.aspx
 
https://forums.evga.com/3080-XC3-Ultra-Hybrid-Memory-Temperatures-m3213893.aspx

It's definitely lower during regular use. Maybe 70-80. I could probably tweak it to mine higher, but it seems kind of pointless. That's a difference of what, 25 cents a day? This is just using the NiceHash quickminer.

For me, it's the longevity of the card. I will be adding a heatkiller block to it soon. I stuck an optimus block on my 3090 and it brought the vram down to 76 max.

phroze

tshalev

phroze

tshalev

phroze

usak90
So I'm on the queue for the 3968, which hasn't moved more than 30 seconds since launch nearly 2 months ago. With that said, I'm thinking of buying the 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra (air cooled) from elsewhere and then debating between buying the EVGA hybrid kit or the Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO kit. Anyone have any thoughts between the two?

Personally I'd avoid the EVGA hybrid kits. They actually get worse temps on the VRAM than the air cooled counterparts which is where it matters most on these high end 30 series cards with GDDR6X

I'm not sure about when you're adding the hybrid kit on yourself, but I've tried mining on my 3968, and memory junction temps don't go above 86. Core is at 50, and clocks are at 2100MHz. I have no real experience in mining and I know that 3080 Tis are limited for ETH, but I'm getting a hashrate of around 61 for ETH. Probably could be better for alternative algorithms.
 
That being said, I agree that if you were looking into pricier AIO solutions you might be able to squeeze out more performance.

On my 3953 mem junction doesn't go above 82 while mining eth. Getting 66mh/s. EVGA support actually kind of  admitted to the issue awhile back. Here are the threads. 
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Geforce-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-RAM-junction-temperatures-are-awful-m3265393.aspx
 
https://forums.evga.com/3080-XC3-Ultra-Hybrid-Memory-Temperatures-m3213893.aspx

It's definitely lower during regular use. Maybe 70-80. I could probably tweak it to mine higher, but it seems kind of pointless. That's a difference of what, 25 cents a day? This is just using the NiceHash quickminer.

For me, it's the longevity of the card. I will be adding a heatkiller block to it soon. I stuck an optimus block on my 3090 and it brought the vram down to 76 max.

That's fair. Some cards might just have it applied better than others. As I mentioned in my post edit above, I tried playing Control with everything maxed for about 10-15 minutes and couldn't get the memory junction temps above 75. This game really pounds the GPU as well. Of course with the 3090 you have the issue with the rear RAM which was a problem all along.

jorjelul
That’s unfortunate. Will try to cancel the order…will the repad help more than the hybrid?

I wouldnt re pad the front. Not many people have had success there. I would add to the backplate. The GDDR6X chips push heat into the PCB so if you can place some pads right where the ram chips are I think you could do well. I'm running .5mm fujipoly on my front and 3mm fujipoly on the entire back side of the PCB but that is with a custom water block.

phroze

jorjelul
That’s unfortunate. Will try to cancel the order…will the repad help more than the hybrid?

I wouldnt re pad the front. Not many people have had success there. I would add to the backplate. The GDDR6X chips push heat into the PCB so if you can place some pads right where the ram chips are I think you could do well. I'm running .5mm fujipoly on my front and 3mm fujipoly on the entire back side of the PCB but that is with a custom water block.

Thanks.
It seems my package will be soon picked by UPS, not much can be done. I could reject the delivery, but the shipping itself it's 30% of the order (Canada) and I'll also be hit by taxes when it reaches the destination airport. Seems I'll try it for fun....
But how come the FE cards have such a drastic decrease of memory temp when re-padded? 

jorjelul

phroze

jorjelul
That’s unfortunate. Will try to cancel the order…will the repad help more than the hybrid?

I wouldnt re pad the front. Not many people have had success there. I would add to the backplate. The GDDR6X chips push heat into the PCB so if you can place some pads right where the ram chips are I think you could do well. I'm running .5mm fujipoly on my front and 3mm fujipoly on the entire back side of the PCB but that is with a custom water block.

Thanks.
It seems my package will be soon picked by UPS, not much can be done. I could reject the delivery, but the shipping itself it's 30% of the order (Canada) and I'll also be hit by taxes when it reaches the destination airport. Seems I'll try it for fun....
But how come the FE cards have such a drastic decrease of memory temp when re-padded? 

The FE is a completely different design. I haven't messed with one but from what I understand they come will poor pads. I would imagine they are adding them to the backplate as well.

kram36
Maybe this is Hybrid not cooling the memory better is a FTW3 issue. I put a Hybrid cooler on my 3080 Ti XC3 and the memory temps are lower. Of course the XC3 doesn't have the beefy cooler the FTW3 has.

not as much info out there regarding the XC3. There was this post but it was not very long winded https://forums.evga.com/3080-XC3-Ultra-Hybrid-Memory-Temperatures-m3213893.aspx
I mean the fact that the memory cooling is not part of the same cold plate as the GPU is detrimental. 

kram36

phroze

kram36
Maybe this is Hybrid not cooling the memory better is a FTW3 issue. I put a Hybrid cooler on my 3080 Ti XC3 and the memory temps are lower. Of course the XC3 doesn't have the beefy cooler the FTW3 has.

not as much info out there regarding the XC3. There was this post but it was not very long winded https://forums.evga.com/3080-XC3-Ultra-Hybrid-Memory-Temperatures-m3213893.aspx
I mean the fact that the memory cooling is not part of the same cold plate as the GPU is detrimental. 

I followed a guide by someone on the forums with reusing the memory pads on the backplate of the card. My memory temps are much better with the Hybrid cooler then the stock XC3 air cooler.

Must just be XC3 specific. Backplate pads are probably what is helping you though.

WARNING! THIS IS THE EU QUEUE! For the North American Queue status, please refer to enewt's posts.
 
Good Evening, here is the daily status for the EU queues.
It seems the 3060 line moved another 4 seconds foward.
The 3060 Ti XC made a significant jump, it cleared launch day and has landed itself into an afternoon slot. 
 
Name                                          SKU                     Latest Emailed Date
K|NGP|N HYDRO COPPER              3999                   No Self Reports Yet
3090 FTW3 Ultra                          3987                   9/30/2020 6:58:07 AM PT
3080 Ti FTW3 HYDRO COPPER       3969                   No Self Reports Yet
3080 Ti XC3 HYBRID                     3958                   No Self Reports Yet
3080 Ti FTW3 HYBRID                   3968                   No Self Reports Yet
3080 TI FTW3 Ultra                       3967                   06/03/2021 06:34:02 AM PT
3080 TI XC3 Ultra                         3955                   Did this open?
3080 XC3 Ultra                             3885                   9/17/2020 11:04:25 AM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra KR Variant          3897-KR              10/6/2020 3:38:24 PM PT
3080 FTW3 Ultra                          3897                    9/17/2020 8:22:34 AM PT
3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra                       3797                   6/10/2021, 6:11:22 AM PT
3070 Ti XC3 Ultra                         3785                    No Self Reports Yet
3070 XC3 Black                            3751                   10/29/2020 6:15:19 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra                             3755                   10/29/2020 6:56:00 AM PT
3070 XC3 Ultra KR Variant             3755-KR              10/31/2020 9:26:46 AM PT
3070 FTW3 Ultra                           3767                   10/29/2020 6:41:00 AM PT
3060 Ti XC Gaming                     3663                   13/6/2020 1:54:04 PM PT
3060 TI FTW                                 3667                   12/6/2020 12:54:00 AM PT
3060 XC Gaming                          3657                   2/25/2021 09:01:08 AM PT
 
As usual, I will be back tomorrow if more timestamps show up. Good luck for the watchers.

jorjelul
Will first install the hybrid kit without adding the old pads to the back and report back
Update: looking at some install videos it seems that the copper plate covering the memory has no conductivity continuity with the chipset copper part. Will try adding a bit of thermal paste in between, even 0.5mm pads would be too thick.

It already has thermal paste, you don't need to add any.