Cheemonstonzo

digitalownage

nomoss

dmadzhitov
Well, made a final decision today. Screw this. They can have it, I am done with this nonsense. I am not gonna pay these ridiculous prices. It is not an end of the world and  I will survive without GPU for another year. EVGA values retail/etail "partners" more than "Elite members". EVGA is not gonna bend over to satisfy own loyal customers in favor of more profitable venues like scalpers and miners. Dollar wins. Always. But I am gonna use money now as I want to. No allegiance to EVGA anymore.
 
EVGA, you failed. And you lost me and 3 other customers who are my kids and who was waiting so long to upgrade their PCs. Keep going like this and you will loose more money.
 
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It sounds like RDNA 3 is hitting next year and also the nvidia 4000 series. Might make since at this point depending if they get the stock issues worked out by then or not. 

They'd better start making those cards last like last month then. 

LeChuck81

methos12
This seems to come up a lot and maybe I'm not understanding it. EVGA has relationships with retailers like Best Buy, Microcenter, NewEgg, etc. who probably have had terms with them for years now stating certain levels of inventory which they will purchase from EVGA for resale. Because of the demand this year I wouldn't think EVGA would suddenly be able to withhold inventory and only sell direct without violating or, at best, harming those retailer relationships which they need to survive during all the other years the world isn't uniquely crazy. Those retailers are also selling to "loyal customers", in fact several in this thread have purchased from those retailers. I would hazard a guess that the agreement with those resellers also states a range for which they are allowed to sell their cards; I've only seen the usual retailers selling EVGA cards for MSRP. Selling direct to consumer here is probably their most profitable avenue since there is no middle man (retailer). I don't think they're making more money selling to any other retailer. I'm sure they'd love to be able to sell their entire inventory directly to consumers but that just isn't realistic, even now. Not doing that I think works in our favor since it isn't funneling EVERYONE here to buy their cards, there are still people trying to get them at retailers by waiting in lines or fighting people in the streets.
 
"Scalper prices" are just that. Marketplace sellers, like Amazon (and even NewEgg), sometimes make it appear as if the retailer itself is selling for exorbitant prices but that's just the dumb nature of marketplace ecommerce. Some of those sellers probably bought from legitimate retailers for MSRP and then expect to flip it on marketplaces because those seem more legit than eBay.

Wow, we do wrote the same things in the exact same time! 

methos12

dmadzhitovEVGA values retail/etail "partners" more than "Elite members". EVGA is not gonna bend over to satisfy own loyal customers in favor of more profitable venues like scalpers and miners.

 
This seems to come up a lot and maybe I'm not understanding it. EVGA has relationships with retailers like Best Buy, Microcenter, NewEgg, etc. who probably have had terms with them for years now stating certain levels of inventory which they will purchase from EVGA for resale. Because of the demand this year I wouldn't think EVGA would suddenly be able to withhold inventory and only sell direct without violating or, at best, harming those retailer relationships which they need to survive during all the other years the world isn't uniquely crazy. Those retailers are also selling to "loyal customers", in fact several in this thread have purchased from those retailers. I would hazard a guess that the agreement with those resellers also states a range for which they are allowed to sell their cards; I've only seen the usual retailers selling EVGA cards for MSRP. Selling direct to consumer here is probably their most profitable avenue since there is no middle man (retailer). I don't think they're making more money selling to any other retailer. I'm sure they'd love to be able to sell their entire inventory directly to consumers but that just isn't realistic, even now. Not doing that I think works in our favor since it isn't funneling EVERYONE here to buy their cards, there are still people trying to get them at retailers by waiting in lines or fighting people in the streets.
 
"Scalper prices" are just that. Marketplace sellers, like Amazon (and even NewEgg), sometimes make it appear as if the retailer itself is selling for exorbitant prices but that's just the dumb nature of marketplace ecommerce. Some of those sellers probably bought from legitimate retailers for MSRP and then expect to flip it on marketplaces because those seem more legit than eBay.

methos12
I saw that! Nice to see some others are looking at the bigger picture. I was frustrated, too, and I feel fortunate I had a 1080 Ti FTW that was still holding its head above water while waiting to get my 3080.

djwarreng
I am assuming, at a bare minimum, there will be a ton of stragglers for the 3080 ftw3 today since soo many went out on friday

FighterGamer67
I wonder why the RTX-3070-TI-FTW3-Auto-Notify-Time-Elite-Members-First-24-Hours-Only is locked. 

phroze

FighterGamer67
I wonder why the RTX-3070-TI-FTW3-Auto-Notify-Time-Elite-Members-First-24-Hours-Only is locked. 

Because it was only for the first 24 hours after launch.

phroze

FighterGamer67

phroze

FighterGamer67
I wonder why the RTX-3070-TI-FTW3-Auto-Notify-Time-Elite-Members-First-24-Hours-Only is locked. 

Because it was only for the first 24 hours after launch.

but that queue has not been fulfilled (the first 24 hours).  I was at 6:50am (start time was 6:00am) for that launch date. Wonder if Kram36 has stopped working on it or what happened.

ohh the thread is locked?

phroze

Supergo

phroze

FighterGamer67

phroze

FighterGamer67
I wonder why the RTX-3070-TI-FTW3-Auto-Notify-Time-Elite-Members-First-24-Hours-Only is locked. 

Because it was only for the first 24 hours after launch.

but that queue has not been fulfilled (the first 24 hours).  I was at 6:50am (start time was 6:00am) for that launch date. Wonder if Kram36 has stopped working on it or what happened.

ohh the thread is locked?

Kram asked to close it down

That sucks. I think he's pretty bitter about the underperforming 80ti xc3. TBH mine is hitting the 350 watt limit but I would be bummed if it didn't.

FighterGamer67

methos12

dmadzhitovEVGA values retail/etail "partners" more than "Elite members". EVGA is not gonna bend over to satisfy own loyal customers in favor of more profitable venues like scalpers and miners.

 
This seems to come up a lot and maybe I'm not understanding it. EVGA has relationships with retailers like Best Buy, Microcenter, NewEgg, etc. who probably have had terms with them for years now stating certain levels of inventory which they will purchase from EVGA for resale. Because of the demand this year I wouldn't think EVGA would suddenly be able to withhold inventory and only sell direct without violating or, at best, harming those retailer relationships which they need to survive during all the other years the world isn't uniquely crazy. Those retailers are also selling to "loyal customers", in fact several in this thread have purchased from those retailers. I would hazard a guess that the agreement with those resellers also states a range for which they are allowed to sell their cards; I've only seen the usual retailers selling EVGA cards for MSRP. Selling direct to consumer here is probably their most profitable avenue since there is no middle man (retailer). I don't think they're making more money selling to any other retailer. I'm sure they'd love to be able to sell their entire inventory directly to consumers but that just isn't realistic, even now. Not doing that I think works in our favor since it isn't funneling EVERYONE here to buy their cards, there are still people trying to get them at retailers by waiting in lines or fighting people in the streets.
 
"Scalper prices" are just that. Marketplace sellers, like Amazon (and even NewEgg), sometimes make it appear as if the retailer itself is selling for exorbitant prices but that's just the dumb nature of marketplace ecommerce. Some of those sellers probably bought from legitimate retailers for MSRP and then expect to flip it on marketplaces because those seem more legit than eBay.

People who are in desperate need of a graphics card (like me, since my current gpu is having problems), there are some on Amazon.  I picked up the one I wanted but paid $300 more than MSRP, but that's a whole lot better than the double MSRP that people were charging not too long ago.  I was in the queue since the first of the year and have been waiting (as my gpu gets worse and worse -- black screening, screen tearing, double images).  Yes, EVGA sells them at MSRP, but if someone really needs one, cards are out there in the market place, just have to spend a little more for one, but stick to big sites like Newegg, Amazon, B&H, so that you won't get ripped off (empty box, fake card, etc).   As much as these cards are, I don't trust handing that much money over to just any unknown website.  

nomoss
Got my Kingpin Hybrid installed yesterday and I have to say, I'm not all that impressed.
It looks nice and the monitoring display is nice.  The unit itself is extremely efficient, getting great timespy scores at lower clock speed than my 3090 FTW.

But not better scores.  I'm confused why I cannot OC the Kingpin to the same stable OC that I had before, best I can do is fully 100 mhz LESS than my XOC FTW.  
I was able to score 18900 on the FTW card, but only 18713 on the Kingpin.

Either I got a really great FTW before, or I have a dud Kingpin now.  Or I'm missing something.

nomoss
Got my Kingpin Hybrid installed yesterday and I have to say, I'm not all that impressed.
It looks nice and the monitoring display is nice.  The unit itself is extremely efficient, getting great timespy scores at lower clock speed than my 3090 FTW.

But not better scores.  I'm confused why I cannot OC the Kingpin to the same stable OC that I had before, best I can do is fully 100 mhz LESS than my XOC FTW.  
I was able to score 18900 on the FTW card, but only 18713 on the Kingpin.

Either I got a really great FTW before, or I have a dud Kingpin now.  Or I'm missing something.

phroze

johngalt2247

nomoss
Got my Kingpin Hybrid installed yesterday and I have to say, I'm not all that impressed.
It looks nice and the monitoring display is nice.  The unit itself is extremely efficient, getting great timespy scores at lower clock speed than my 3090 FTW.

But not better scores.  I'm confused why I cannot OC the Kingpin to the same stable OC that I had before, best I can do is fully 100 mhz LESS than my XOC FTW.  
I was able to score 18900 on the FTW card, but only 18713 on the Kingpin.

Either I got a really great FTW before, or I have a dud Kingpin now.  Or I'm missing something.

We are in the same boat.  I'm experiencing significant disappointment with the Kingpin Hybrid.  I installed the "Vince Bios" and had some moderate improvements though

Aren't they geared more toward LN2 though?

djwarreng

nomoss
Got my Kingpin Hybrid installed yesterday and I have to say, I'm not all that impressed.
It looks nice and the monitoring display is nice.  The unit itself is extremely efficient, getting great timespy scores at lower clock speed than my 3090 FTW.

But not better scores.  I'm confused why I cannot OC the Kingpin to the same stable OC that I had before, best I can do is fully 100 mhz LESS than my XOC FTW.  
I was able to score 18900 on the FTW card, but only 18713 on the Kingpin.

Either I got a really great FTW before, or I have a dud Kingpin now.  Or I'm missing something.

It's quite possible EVGA used whatever gpus they had available to sell the top tier cards instead of cherry picking gpus like they used to. Although many people have said that the hydrocopper bios and hybrid bios are different. The HC bios is supposed to be better. You might want to consider flashing the HC bios to your hybrid