kram36

GGTV-Jon
Looking at this thread on my phone, kram36 what features are you wanting that are missing?

The main one is wireless internet adapter.
 

bcavnaugh

kram36

bcavnaugh
Yes we have a Z370 Classified but no Z370 Dark.
Having a Z390 Dark would Null any Classified Model as they have done with the X299 Line of Motherboards.
As they have done with the X99 Classified their was No X99 Dark.

The Z390 Dark is not a conventional motherboard. The Z390 FTW is missing features of the Z390 chipset. There is a spot for a Z390 Classified motherboard.

Not a "Conventional Motherboard" Odd hearing this statement on the Forum.
The EVGA Classified Motherboards along with the EVGA Dark Motherboards are Both Custom Motherboards and far from Conventional. Conventional is MSI or ASUS Non-ROG Motherboards along with all the other Motherboard Companies.
If I were to compare them both they would be to the AUSU ROG Line of Motherboards and are as far from Conventional as you can get.
But I guess it hard to please everyone in the end.
You never know maybe on down the line EVGA will drop the Dark that everyone has wanted for the last 3 or more years and go back the overly large Motherboard format of the Classified line that everyone said was just to big.
I just put to rest my Two EVGA X79 Classified Motherboards along with my Two SuperNOVA NEX1500 Classified Power Supplies.
Yes I still have my X99 Classified Motherboard and will for at least another 2 Years along with the GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N Hydro Copper Graphics Cards. Solid Motherboard with a Haswell-E CPU.
 

Apparently you don't know what conventional means. If you look it says "of traditional design". The Z390 Dark is far from the traditional design of a motherboard.
 
What's with your obsession of coming at me about wanting to see a Z390 Classified motherboard with all the features the Z390 chipset offers? I could care less if you don't want one to come out, you should care less about me wanting to see a Z390 Classified motherboard.

"traditional" You read my Post wrong. The EVGA Classified and Dark Motherboards are Not Traditional Motherboards.
Custom Motherboards is the same Not a Traditional Motherboard.
Where is it stated that this is a "says "of traditional design"."
I am not, lets move on.
"wireless internet adapter"
The Dark has this. (New Integrated EVGA Wireless Module with Intel Dual-band WiFi / BT4.0 with external antenna)

With the current landscape of the manufacturing scene I doubt there are going to be a huge spread of SKUs in the motherboard department.
 
What you want is an everything in, including the kitchen sink, board (I am guessing it is more then just just "wireless" that you want) and with so many other board manufacturers covering that it would be silly for EVGA to bother with it.
 
That being said, I have a brand new 6700K in the box unopened because I never saw an EVGA board I liked. Some were close but the thing that killed it for me was in inclusion of the Killer NICs - I will not buy anything with one of their POS NIC's on it. We cannot always get what we want and I held out so long that I ended up with getting an X299 Dark

 
Hello, I would like to know how these connectors of the Z390 dark board will work? Will any sockets come with the motherboard so you can fit in?
 
Thank you

Gimlixd

 
Hello, I would like to know how these connectors of the Z390 dark board will work? Will any sockets come with the motherboard so you can fit in?
 
Thank you

bg8780

Gimlixd

 
Hello, I would like to know how these connectors of the Z390 dark board will work? Will any sockets come with the motherboard so you can fit in?
 
Thank you

I'm curious as well. I see the board the board comes with thermal pads so heat dissipation through the mobo is my guess.


Might be better just getting a heatsink with a backplate like EK's offering. 

Answer Posted by TiN_EE Post #58

TiN_EE
Square spots around M.2 area is new alien technology. Well, not really, just exposed metal to give better thermal transfer to thermal pad between hot M.2 drive and board :).

 
But then the ones on the Left Side would really never be used. I bet it is for ............ I bet it is Classified

 
If I recall they had them on the X299 Dark as well. Yep but only on the back one.

bg8780
Great! Thanks for clearing that up! It may help with temps but I'm still thinking something like this is a better solution.

Also, the X299 Dark has active cooling for the M.2 slots. Doesn't look the Z390 Dark will so it will be hard to compare if the X299 M.2 temps are due to the gold contacts or the fan.

That being an after market product yes.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/hard-drive-coolers/ek-m-2-nvme-heatsink-black.html 
I do need one for my X99 FTW K it did not come with any thermal pads for the M.2 Slots (Ordered (Amazon))
I passed on the one below.
Advancing Gene NVMe M.2 SSD Cooler Heatsinks with 20mm Fan, 2nd Generation by Advancing
This is Not an Amazon Hot Deals Link.

Iamrogue
Do we know when DARK will be available in EU?

No, just like we don't know when it will be available in US?

bcavnaugh

Iamrogue
Do we know when DARK will be available in EU?

No, just like we don't know when it will be available in US?

Scouring of the internet seems to indicate 30 Nov completely unofficially.

d.burnette
 
Ugh, hoping it might be a little sooner.

I think a few posts back somebody from EVGA said something to the effect of 4-5 weeks or until its done. I'm not sure how old that post was but Nov 30 seems optimistic for me.
 
From a sales perspective, it makes sense to have it release somewhere around the holidays too, when people are willing to spend more money on things they dont really need.

At least a later release date gives me the time to wait for Phanteks to get a second shipment of the Evolv X out (Newegg just got them back in stock, ordered one).  I really want a case with Type 2 3.1 up front, but right now that's between the Evolv X and the updated Fractal R6.  I'm not too terribly keen on RGB crap, but it seems it can be tastefully implemented on the Evolv X, and I really like the cable management and drive space options.
 
The problem with such a late release date is that assuming Amazon ships my 9900K this Friday, it means there's a 30 day clock for returns.
 
Again, I would *really* appreciate it if someone could have the motherboard team do measurements on the socket area so we can start divining which HSFs will work with this board.  I don't want to buy a D15S only to be a guinea pig, and I'm not a fan of CLCs.  Hell, just confirming or denying if the D15S will work would be nice, since I can't imagine anyone really considering *not* using Noctua if they plan on air-cooling with this board.
 
If the board's not out by the return window of my CPU, I'm going to be forced to buy an ASUS Z390 WS board instead - which while expensive, is available now.  And I really don't want to, because I like EVGA's products and warranty options.

destruya
At least a later release date gives me the time to wait for Phanteks to get a second shipment of the Evolv X out (Newegg just got them back in stock, ordered one).  I really want a case with Type 2 3.1 up front, but right now that's between the Evolv X and the updated Fractal R6.  I'm not too terribly keen on RGB crap, but it seems it can be tastefully implemented on the Evolv X, and I really like the cable management and drive space options.
 
The problem with such a late release date is that assuming Amazon ships my 9900K this Friday, it means there's a 30 day clock for returns.
 
Again, I would *really* appreciate it if someone could have the motherboard team do measurements on the socket area so we can start divining which HSFs will work with this board.  I don't want to buy a D15S only to be a guinea pig, and I'm not a fan of CLCs.  Hell, just confirming or denying if the D15S will work would be nice, since I can't imagine anyone really considering *not* using Noctua if they plan on air-cooling with this board.
 
If the board's not out by the return window of my CPU, I'm going to be forced to buy an ASUS Z390 WS board instead - which while expensive, is available now.  And I really don't want to, because I like EVGA's products and warranty options.

I don't see what features the Asus Z390 WS has that compare to the Dark. I admit I'm waiting for the Dark, but I wish EVGA would do a limited release next week so the few of us obsessed with the Dark could get their hands on one.

"Limited PLX capability permitting twin x16 slots" Testing and Benchmarking show that this still runs the same as x8 x8 so PLX is not the way to go.
Want True x16 x16 or x8 x8 x16 or even x8 x8 x16 8x X299 44 Lane CPU is the only real way to go.

destruya
Well, at least I got some confirmation from Phanteks tonight that the previously mentioned board limit space-wise in the Evolv X only applied to the previous version of the case, and the new one has no upper limit for EATX width.  Still, I tried to contact EVGA to ask for dimensions of the board and got a rather prompt brush-off saying no details could or would be released as the product still isn't in-channel.
 
Again, it would be very nice if we knew what HSFs worked with this board.  Not all of us are going with custom loops or CLCs.

I just got my Evolv X a few days ago and getting my Z390 FTW today.  I can say for sure that the inside of that case is massive.  I can't imagine it not being able to fit a dark, but I can certainly take some measurements if need be.  The RGB is amazing on the Evolv X, but I'm trying to figure out how to control it via software.  Of course if I had an Asus mobo, it would sync no problem but as far as I can tell the FTW only has the standard 12V rgb headers, no addressable.
 
Looking at the pics of the Dark and FTW, it looks like the "EATX" is only in the width (maybe an inch and a half wider), not the height of the board.  Looking at the Evolv X, I think you just might not be able to close the four cable management shields all the way with the dark, but otherwise I think it would fit.

destruya
Well, at least I got some confirmation from Phanteks tonight that the previously mentioned board limit space-wise in the Evolv X only applied to the previous version of the case, and the new one has no upper limit for EATX width.  Still, I tried to contact EVGA to ask for dimensions of the board and got a rather prompt brush-off saying no details could or would be released as the product still isn't in-channel.
 
Again, it would be very nice if we knew what HSFs worked with this board.  Not all of us are going with custom loops or CLCs.

Got you some pics with measurements!  This is from the right side stand-off.
 

 
The ruler is laying across two standoffs so since it hits the top of that slope, the motherboard would hit to if it's bigger than this.
 

bcavnaugh

bg8780
Great! Thanks for clearing that up! It may help with temps but I'm still thinking something like this is a better solution.
Also, the X299 Dark has active cooling for the M.2 slots. Doesn't look the Z390 Dark will so it will be hard to compare if the X299 M.2 temps are due to the gold contacts or the fan.

Not worth the cost only 2C difference in temps.

Every review I've read is WAY more than 2C. Where have you seen that?

bcavnaugh

bg8780

bcavnaugh

bg8780
Great! Thanks for clearing that up! It may help with temps but I'm still thinking something like this is a better solution.
Also, the X299 Dark has active cooling for the M.2 slots. Doesn't look the Z390 Dark will so it will be hard to compare if the X299 M.2 temps are due to the gold contacts or the fan.

Not worth the cost only 2C difference in temps.

Every review I've read is WAY more than 2C. Where have you seen that?

 
On my Computer?