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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/08 03:01:44 (permalink)
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That's normal, all Micro2 owners have their package temps around 10C higher than CPU temps.




Most if not all boards are like that.  You have CPU Package temp, Socket temp (LED Display on X99 MBs) and Core temps.  Usually the CPU package temp is lower than the CPU cores but the socket temp is higher than them all.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/08 10:03:29 (permalink)
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Tem4ik
 
That's normal, all Micro2 owners have their package temps around 10C higher than CPU temps.




Most if not all boards are like that.  You have CPU Package temp, Socket temp (LED Display on X99 MBs) and Core temps.  Usually the CPU package temp is lower than the CPU cores but the socket temp is higher than them all.




Although I noticed last night that the package and core temps are only 2 degrees apart under load. And that all of my cores are only a couple of degrees apart. A welcome change from my old X58 chip which had a 10 degree split.
 
I'm really liking this board for overclock actually, although any changes in BCLK seem to tip it over, so I can only make big speed changes. 47 x 100 at 1.3V under load is pretty fine though, haha. Mustn't be greedy.
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 07:25:13 (permalink)
Hi folks,

I just ordered a Micro 2. While waiting for it to arrive, may I know if there is a need to liquid cool the VRM and chipset?
 
How's the temp like for those with an infrared thermal gun?
 
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 08:31:23 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

I just ordered a Micro 2. While waiting for it to arrive, may I know if there is a need to liquid cool the VRM and chipset?
 
How's the temp like for those with an infrared thermal gun?
 
Regards,
Phil




Chipset and VRM cooling are mainly for aesthetics.  Don't really need to liquid cool them unless you're pushing extreme high OCs but as long as there's airflow going through you'll be fine.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 16:47:42 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

I just ordered a Micro 2. While waiting for it to arrive, may I know if there is a need to liquid cool the VRM and chipset?
 
How's the temp like for those with an infrared thermal gun?
 
Regards,
Phil




Chipset and VRM cooling are mainly for aesthetics.  Don't really need to liquid cool them unless you're pushing extreme high OCs but as long as there's airflow going through you'll be fine.




Thanks for replying.
 
Airflow inside my casing is regulated based on the motherboard temp, but I would also to minimize hot spots like these. Not really into benching and insane OC. Main objective for LC is to create a quiet and cool-running rig, which is able to ramp up in terms of performance as and when it is required. e.g. gaming and video editing.
 
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 17:34:06 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

I just ordered a Micro 2. While waiting for it to arrive, may I know if there is a need to liquid cool the VRM and chipset?
 
How's the temp like for those with an infrared thermal gun?
 
Regards,
Phil




Chipset and VRM cooling are mainly for aesthetics.  Don't really need to liquid cool them unless you're pushing extreme high OCs but as long as there's airflow going through you'll be fine.




Thanks for replying.
 
Airflow inside my casing is regulated based on the motherboard temp, but I would also to minimize hot spots like these. Not really into benching and insane OC. Main objective for LC is to create a quiet and cool-running rig, which is able to ramp up in terms of performance as and when it is required. e.g. gaming and video editing.
 
Phil
 
 




Depending on your loop's configuration.  Chances are there's air flow going through.
 
I chose positive pressure because in my big case (900D), I use mostly intake and rear as exhaust because A. They're filtered so less dust and B. All the rads get fresh cooler ambient air and all gets naturally exhausted out the back with a single 120mm for assistance.  It really works out really well.  My temps did drop some when I did that as opposed to the Front, Bottom intake and Top, rear exhaust.  Both work but I like how I have it configured now.  I also believe it also depends on the type of case.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 17:36:53 (permalink)
Liquid cooling them is unlikely unless you go through nateman_doo, who would make the blocks once he has enough people to justify a full batch (10 people minimum I think). 
 
Currently, I don't know of anyone else that makes waterblocks for any evga motherboard.  The VRM and Chipset will not get too hot if you are doing standard overclocking.  


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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 17:48:59 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

I just ordered a Micro 2. While waiting for it to arrive, may I know if there is a need to liquid cool the VRM and chipset?
 
How's the temp like for those with an infrared thermal gun?
 
Regards,
Phil




Chipset and VRM cooling are mainly for aesthetics.  Don't really need to liquid cool them unless you're pushing extreme high OCs but as long as there's airflow going through you'll be fine.




Thanks for replying.
 
Airflow inside my casing is regulated based on the motherboard temp, but I would also to minimize hot spots like these. Not really into benching and insane OC. Main objective for LC is to create a quiet and cool-running rig, which is able to ramp up in terms of performance as and when it is required. e.g. gaming and video editing.
 
Phil
 
 




Depending on your loop's configuration.  Chances are there's air flow going through.
 
I chose positive pressure because in my big case (900D), I use mostly intake and rear as exhaust because A. They're filtered so less dust and B. All the rads get fresh cooler ambient air and all gets naturally exhausted out the back with a single 120mm for assistance.  It really works out really well.  My temps did drop some when I did that as opposed to the Front, Bottom intake and Top, rear exhaust.  Both work but I like how I have it configured now.  I also believe it also depends on the type of case.


I've an almost identical airflow design for my existing rig, except that the intakes are unfiltered. After all, I'm using a highly perforated Lian Li V1000 casing. That said, bought a DEMCiflex filter and gonna seal all the holes for this X99 build. Can't stand the dusty interior anymore.

Looks like LCing VRM and chipset is unnecessary. Less thermal load for my 360mm and 240mm rads.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 17:52:10 (permalink)
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Liquid cooling them is unlikely unless you go through nateman_doo, who would make the blocks once he has enough people to justify a full batch (10 people minimum I think). 
 
Currently, I don't know of anyone else that makes waterblocks for any evga motherboard.  The VRM and Chipset will not get too hot if you are doing standard overclocking.  


Yup.. Already emailed him.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 17:55:08 (permalink)
My trusty x58 rig..

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 19:58:42 (permalink)
Nice.  Create a Modsrigs profile and add some pics there so we can see your rig and specs as we have.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/11/28 21:55:44 (permalink)
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Nice.  Create a Modsrigs profile and add some pics there so we can see your rig and specs as we have.




Thanks, this is just an old rig. Nothing worth shouting about.
 
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 02:45:04 (permalink)
Am I correct in thinking that this EVGA motherboard will not work with EVGA's own 980 Ti Hybrid graphics card if placed in the top PCI-E slot, with the motherboard's I/O cover attached? That seems ridiculous.
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 02:50:04 (permalink)
Nope, not true. It works just fine. Simply push IO cover a little to the top when installing a GPU, that's all. It slides right in)
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 02:54:55 (permalink)
Thanks for the response Tem4ik, but why were other posters (SimonOcean and div033) not able to get it all to fit?  I thought the EVGA 980 Ti Hybrid uses an EK backplate?
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 03:03:19 (permalink)
Dunno, why, really) EVGA is using their own custom backplates. I installed 980Ti SC + beckplate first and then switched to Hybrid with no hassle. I tried to place the IO shield further to the top (2 screws holds it), even a few mm counts here. Then, push your gpu into top pci slot from beneath the IO shield and it slides right in)
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 03:09:06 (permalink)
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Dunno, why, really) EVGA is using their own custom backplates. I installed 980Ti SC + beckplate first and then switched to Hybrid with no hassle. I tried to place the IO shield further to the top (2 screws holds it), even a few mm counts here. Then, push your gpu into top pci slot from beneath the IO shield and it slides right in)




Thanks Tem4ik, that's great.
 
I have one more question you might be able to help me with (🙈)...if I'm planning on installing a second 980 ti hybrid into the second PCI-E slot, won't the third PCI-E slot then be blocked off, so I won't be able to install a wireless NIC in there?
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 04:01:42 (permalink)
Also, if I'm using a 5930K CPU and two GPU's, would the m.2 slot still be full PCI-E 3.0 speed if I installed an SSD there?
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 07:34:28 (permalink)
"After being alerted to the issue by a reader, I checked again and it seems the bottom slot is disabled when a M.2 drive is installed. What threw me off is when the setting is turned on but the slot is empty, a video card in the bottom slot drops to x4 but still works. However, when the slot is populated, I couldn’t get any video out of it.
 
There are three PCIe slots, all x16 physically. From top to bottom they run in a x16 / x16 / x8 lane configuration with the 40-lane 5930K and 5960X. With the 28-lane 5820K it’s a x16 / x8 / x4 config."
 
This is form smallformfactor dot net review
 
But it's better to ask tech support what kind of PCI-E slot breakdown we have with 40-lane CPU and M.2 PCIe SSD + 2xGPUs installed, I'm curious about that too.
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 08:06:10 (permalink)
The m.2 slot shares it's lanes with the 3 PCI-E slot, I believe.  I'm a bit of a noob with this stuff but wouldn't x8 PCI-E 3.0 be the same as x16 PCI-E 2.0?  What I really want to know is, would you get the speed benefits of a PCI-E m.2 SSD (over a SATA SSD) if you're using two GPU's on the X99 Micro 2?
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 09:46:16 (permalink)

PCI-E Slot Breakdown
PCI-E Lane Distribution (40 Lane Processor)
 PE1 – x16
 PE2 – x16
 PE3 – x8
 
PCI-E Lane Distribution (28 Lane Processor)
 PE1 – x16
 PE2 – x8
 PE3 – x4

 
 Expansion Slots:
1x M.2
-M.2 Socket 3 (Key M), M.2 needs to be enabled in BIOS as it is shared with PE3. M.2 uses PCI-E 3.0 x4, with speeds up to 32 Gb/s.


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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 09:51:51 (permalink)
Thank you!!

Can heat be an issue with m.2 SSDs? Especially sandwiched in between 2 GPUs?
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 11:23:35 (permalink)
As long as there's some airflow, you should be fine and for a desktop user, you won't run them constantly like you would see in an enterprise environment. 

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 12:35:45 (permalink)
I'm amazed there isn't any information on how these drives improve gaming load times. Real-world benchmarks would be better than read/write speeds.
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 14:38:27 (permalink)
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I'm amazed there isn't any information on how these drives improve gaming load times. Real-world benchmarks would be better than read/write speeds.



Lets just say a XP941 which I have is PCIe 2.0 x4 and not the 3.0 I wished I had waited for and it runs like having 2 top performing SATA SSDs in RAID 0. lol  So with PCIe 3.0, the writes and reading are faster than mine.  Let's just say its FAST like no other. lol

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 14:41:15 (permalink)
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I'm amazed there isn't any information on how these drives improve gaming load times. Real-world benchmarks would be better than read/write speeds.



Lets just say a XP941 which I have is PCIe 2.0 x4 and not the 3.0 I wished I had waited for and it runs like having 2 top performing SATA SSDs in RAID 0. lol  So with PCIe 3.0, the writes and reading are faster than mine.  Let's just say its FAST like no other. lol

Just do a few google searches.  There's lots of info on this.




Yeah I've seen a lot of test results showing that SSDs like the Samsung sm951 are incredibly fast. But, for my intended purpose - gaming, I'd like to see things like GTA V loading times vs a SATA SSD. That kind of stuff. Can't find anything like that!
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/06 16:40:21 (permalink)
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I'm amazed there isn't any information on how these drives improve gaming load times. Real-world benchmarks would be better than read/write speeds.



Lets just say a XP941 which I have is PCIe 2.0 x4 and not the 3.0 I wished I had waited for and it runs like having 2 top performing SATA SSDs in RAID 0. lol  So with PCIe 3.0, the writes and reading are faster than mine.  Let's just say its FAST like no other. lol

Just do a few google searches.  There's lots of info on this.




Yeah I've seen a lot of test results showing that SSDs like the Samsung sm951 are incredibly fast. But, for my intended purpose - gaming, I'd like to see things like GTA V loading times vs a SATA SSD. That kind of stuff. Can't find anything like that!




I can say from experience my games loaded a bit faster than my SATA SSD.  As games get more detailed and heavier, they'll surely shine under M.2, me thinks, let alone in installations, scanning and transferring.

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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/07 13:56:03 (permalink)
When will x99 Micro 2 back in stock ？ its almost sold out everywhere :(
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/11 18:48:58 (permalink)
Yes all fans connected to motherboard run wide open Classified and Micro2. Even if you adjust in BIOS same thing. SMART is 100% and SpeedFan won't adjust them either. Just get a fan controller or a case with a controller and do them manually.  Gives you something to do. HA
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Re: EVGA X99 Micro2! 2015/12/13 07:53:06 (permalink)
All the fan headers on the Micro2 are PWM capable, it sounds like you're using 3-pin fans with the headers in PWM mode.
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