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Been on here for awhile now with much appreciatied advice on how far i can do with Skylake X CPU,
and this board.
Advice on either AVX, or OC, on 9800X. I can do 49ghz with avx offset of 1, i pass all tests with 1.27v 1.95vin,
or 5ghz with around 1.32v with avx offset of 2 ramps temps near 200f but scoring in cinabench or geek bench is
not giving a noticable difference in numbers. So if i drop avx loads to a 10 offset or even 5, temps seem to drop
. So what would be favored here. more clock speed like 5ghz, with higher offsets, or step below like 49 with very low
offset
Seems games don't make any difference from the 2 runs here. So maybe 5ghz is a nice number, but diminishing returns
are the thing here. Even Aida64 seems to keep cpu in the same scoring either at 49 or 5ghz.
Its almost a trade off, more avx, or more core speed. I do notice in single core test in cinabench r15, i get 217, at 5 and 213
at 49.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2021/01/01 03:29:17
I am running a 9800x... I have not pushed my OC very far as I have really just not found a need to do so yet. For all of my CPU testing I use OCCT Large Data Set, results below... Stock 4.1GHz (what I consider to be baseline/stock): Target CPU Frequency - 4.1GhHz CPU Multiplier Control - Auto CPU Multiplier Setting - Auto (41) Mesh Ratio - Auto (24) AVX2 Offset - Auto (0) AVX3 Offset - Auto (0) BCLK Frequency - 100 CPU VIN - Auto VCORE Voltage - Auto VMesh Voltage - Auto (1.000v) VIN VDroop - Auto VSA - Auto (0.800v) VCCIO - Auto (1.000v) PCH 1.0v - Auto (1.000v) OCCT Temps Large Dataset 1HR: OCCT AVX Disabled - AVG 50c, MAX 56c, MAX Fluid 28c, Max Inlet Air 23c OCCT AVX - AVG 47c, MAX 56c, MAX Fluid 28c, Max Inlet Air 23c OCCT AVX2 - AVG 49c, MAX 58c, MAX Fluid 28c, Max Inlet Air 23c OCCT AVX512 - AVG 47c, MAX 56c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c OC 4.4Ghz (max OC I can hit with baseline/stock voltages): Target CPU Frequency - 4.4GhHz CPU Multiplier Control - Manual RatioLimit CPU Multiplier Setting - 44 Mesh Ratio - 29 AVX2 Offset - 0 (4.4GHz) AVX3 Offset - 1 (4.3 GHz) BCLK Frequency - 100 CPU VIN - 1.800v VCORE Voltage - 1.200v VMesh Voltage - 1.000v VIN VDroop - Enabled VSA - 0.800v VCCIO - 1.000v PCH 1.0v - 1.000v OCCT Temps Large Dataset 1HR: OCCT AVX Disabled - AVG 61c, MAX 68c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c OCCT AVX - AVG 58c, MAX 69c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c OCCT AVX2 - AVG 61c, MAX 68c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c OCCT AVX512 - NA Note: AVX512 is currently bugged for the Skylake CPU's and it really cant be tested, more information regarding that can be found here in another post that I did. https://forums.evga.com/X299-Dark-BIOS-v118-Possible-BugIssue-m2975001.aspx 200F or 93C is too hot IMO, I would honestly question the stability of that OC especially long term... X299 does not like heat and I would not recommend going above 80C for any extended period of time. Also keep in mind that MAX TJunction per Intel Spec for the 9800x is 95C. Would be interesting to see if that OC with those mentioned temps would pass OCCT stability test for 1HR with a large dataset, but again I would not advise running the CPU that HOT. That being said AVX/AVX2/AVX512 tend to generate a lot of heat when using most stability programs out there, heat and a load that you will ALMOST never find in a real world implementation of AVX assuming that it was implemented correctly. OCCT with a large dataset IMO is one of the best tools for testing CPU stability and well worth the cost, you may find that your temps drop when using OCCT compared to other tools that you have been using. "...but scoring in cinabench or geek bench is not giving a noticable difference in numbers." - Would not be surprised if you are seeing this due to some sort of throttling that is taking place due to the mentioned temps. Also if memory serves me correct either R15 does not use AVX instructions or it was poorly implemented, this was one of the reasons why R20 was created. "So if i drop avx loads to a 10 offset or even 5, temps seem to drop." - This would put your AVX clock speed at 4.00GHz down from 5.00GHz, far below what I am able to get at basically stock voltages. Something seems off here... again I would try testing these overclocks with OCCT and keep an eye on temps as well. "So what would be favored here. more clock speed like 5ghz, with higher offsets, or step below like 49 with very low offset." - As you increase core clock you will need to increase the voltage and as you increase voltage you will increase the amount of heat. AVX already runs HOT as it is so adding more voltage will compound this issues... There is a delicate balance between voltage and temperature and at a certain point you will find that you have to drop your AVX clocks below what you can could run at a lower voltage. For example at 1.2v you might be able to run AVX with no offset @ 4.4GHz, but at 1.3v you will have to run AVX at 4.0GHz; the added voltage causes too much heat. As to what is favored, well that depends on the workload that is being applied to the CPU, if its mostly a non AVX workload than who cares what AVX frequencies are as long as they are stable. I will say that it can be challenging to determine which applications and games use AVX instructions. There is a also a lot of misinformation on the internet about which applications use it. "I do notice in single core test in cinabench r15, i get 217, at 5 and 213 at 49." - A score of 217 vs 213 is within margin of error of testing.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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I ran 5ghz @ 1.310 daily with 0 AVX offset for 2 years on my 9800x. Nothing I did used AVX instructions so I didn't use an offset.
Sounds like you could get your temps better though.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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Intel AVX is designed for use by applications that are strongly floating point compute intensive and can be vectorized. Example applications include audio processing and audio codecs, image and video editing applications, financial services analysis and modeling software, and manufacturing and engineering software. I use an AVX Offset that returns my overclock to the default Intel Turbo Boost speed when/if an AVX workload is running..Default for my mobo is an AVX Offset of 3 (minus 300MHz).
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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I am running a 9800x...
I have not pushed my OC very far as I have really just not found a need to do so yet. For all of my CPU testing I use OCCT Large Data Set, results below...
Stock 4.1GHz (what I consider to be baseline/stock):
Target CPU Frequency - 4.1GhHz
CPU Multiplier Control - Auto
CPU Multiplier Setting - Auto (41)
Mesh Ratio - Auto (24)
AVX2 Offset - Auto (0)
AVX3 Offset - Auto (0)
BCLK Frequency - 100
CPU VIN - Auto
VCORE Voltage - Auto
VMesh Voltage - Auto (1.000v)
VIN VDroop - Auto
VSA - Auto (0.800v)
VCCIO - Auto (1.000v)
PCH 1.0v - Auto (1.000v)
OCCT Temps Large Dataset 1HR:
OCCT AVX Disabled - AVG 50c, MAX 56c, MAX Fluid 28c, Max Inlet Air 23c
OCCT AVX - AVG 47c, MAX 56c, MAX Fluid 28c, Max Inlet Air 23c
OCCT AVX2 - AVG 49c, MAX 58c, MAX Fluid 28c, Max Inlet Air 23c
OCCT AVX512 - AVG 47c, MAX 56c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c
OC 4.4Ghz (max OC I can hit with baseline/stock voltages):
Target CPU Frequency - 4.4GhHz
CPU Multiplier Control - Manual RatioLimit
CPU Multiplier Setting - 44
Mesh Ratio - 29
AVX2 Offset - 0 (4.4GHz)
AVX3 Offset - 1 (4.3 GHz)
BCLK Frequency - 100
CPU VIN - 1.800v
VCORE Voltage - 1.200v
VMesh Voltage - 1.000v
VIN VDroop - Enabled
VSA - 0.800v
VCCIO - 1.000v
PCH 1.0v - 1.000v
OCCT Temps Large Dataset 1HR:
OCCT AVX Disabled - AVG 61c, MAX 68c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c
OCCT AVX - AVG 58c, MAX 69c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c
OCCT AVX2 - AVG 61c, MAX 68c, MAX Fluid 30c, Max Inlet Air 24c
OCCT AVX512 - NA
Note:
AVX512 is currently bugged for the Skylake CPU's and it really cant be tested, more information regarding that can be found here in another post that I did. https://forums.evga.com/X299-Dark-BIOS-v118-Possible-BugIssue-m2975001.aspx
200F or 93C is too hot IMO, I would honestly question the stability of that OC especially long term... X299 does not like heat and I would not recommend going above 80C for any extended period of time. Also keep in mind that MAX TJunction per Intel Spec for the 9800x is 95C. Would be interesting to see if that OC with those mentioned temps would pass OCCT stability test for 1HR with a large dataset, but again I would not advise running the CPU that HOT. That being said AVX/AVX2/AVX512 tend to generate a lot of heat when using most stability programs out there, heat and a load that you will ALMOST never find in a real world implementation of AVX assuming that it was implemented correctly. OCCT with a large dataset IMO is one of the best tools for testing CPU stability and well worth the cost, you may find that your temps drop when using OCCT compared to other tools that you have been using.
"...but scoring in cinabench or geek bench is not giving a noticable difference in numbers."
- Would not be surprised if you are seeing this due to some sort of throttling that is taking place due to the mentioned temps. Also if memory serves me correct either R15 does not use AVX instructions or it was poorly implemented, this was one of the reasons why R20 was created.
"So if i drop avx loads to a 10 offset or even 5, temps seem to drop."
- This would put your AVX clock speed at 4.00GHz down from 5.00GHz, far below what I am able to get at basically stock voltages. Something seems off here... again I would try testing these overclocks with OCCT and keep an eye on temps as well.
"So what would be favored here. more clock speed like 5ghz, with higher offsets, or step below like 49 with very low offset."
- As you increase core clock you will need to increase the voltage and as you increase voltage you will increase the amount of heat. AVX already runs HOT as it is so adding more voltage will compound this issues... There is a delicate balance between voltage and temperature and at a certain point you will find that you have to drop your AVX clocks below what you can could run at a lower voltage. For example at 1.2v you might be able to run AVX with no offset @ 4.4GHz, but at 1.3v you will have to run AVX at 4.0GHz; the added voltage causes too much heat. As to what is favored, well that depends on the workload that is being applied to the CPU, if its mostly a non AVX workload than who cares what AVX frequencies are as long as they are stable. I will say that it can be challenging to determine which applications and games use AVX instructions. There is a also a lot of misinformation on the internet about which applications use it.
"I do notice in single core test in cinabench r15, i get 217, at 5 and 213 at 49."
- A score of 217 vs 213 is within margin of error of testing.
That was amazing explination of how this whole thing works. I don't use avx most of the time since i am doing gaming. I could use 5ghz with a 9 offset and not suffer with temps. I might try it, and i don't do engineering stuff, but play with blender runs and mostly gaming anyway.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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Intel AVX is designed for use by applications that are strongly floating point compute intensive and can be vectorized. Example applications include audio processing and audio codecs, image and video editing applications, financial services analysis and modeling software, and manufacturing and engineering software.
I use an AVX Offset that returns my overclock to the default Intel Turbo Boost speed when/if an AVX workload is running..Default for my mobo is an AVX Offset of 3 (minus 300MHz).
Some games do use it. Most notably (and recent) Cyberpunk 2077 had implemented it, but I think it was removed/disabled due to it not being implemented correctly and it causing the game to crash for many people. However for the most part what you are saying is spot on...
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 13:17:16
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What about prime 95 balanced? And did a 5ghz run with avx at 10, and passed with an 84c?
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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I am personally not a fan of Prime95 and typically only advocate using Prime95 if you plan on searching for Prime Numbers. Not saying that its a bad test... it will certainly work for determining CPU stability. However IMO and experience OCCT is significantly faster at finding errors and more reflective of real world work loads than Prime95. With OCCT CPU stability can typically be determined within 1 hour of testing... I have seen PCs run Prime95 for 8+ hours and fail OCCT within 15 minutes of running. This is why you will see a number of people advocating for 24 hours of testing in Prime95 to determine CPU stability. As far as the dataset which is what 'balanced' is referring to, large datasets typically are better for determining stability while smaller datasets are typically better at generating a lot of heat (thermal and power testing). Of course some of this is strictly my opinion and view point, I would encourage you to do your own research to come to your own conclusions...
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 13:46:58
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Makes sense, I ran Time Spy, at 49 , and passes, and when i run at 5ghz, even though temps are within margin, Time Spy crases.
So my 5ghz settings aren't working, even though they pass Cinabench R15 ok, I like 5, but i need alot more voltage, than at 49, even
though i use avx offset of 10, so it must be silicon related.
I know there is very little performance between 100 mhz , but seeing 5ghz is nice.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 13:48:28
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If you download OCCT there is a period of free use... I am not sure what the exact limitations are and the software is cheap to purchase. https://www.ocbase.com/
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 14:16:00
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I like OCCT, seems stable at 49, but not checked 5ghz yet. Real good question, if i can do 49 with 1 avx, at 1.27v and a vin of 1.96, why is 5ghz so much of a pain, or arm reach away? I'l try OCCT on 5, but who is getting 5? and what voltages? Edit: Ran OCCT and it found 156 errors, So where can i checked error log? and find out what is causing it? Temps are very mild around 156f or 70c, so heats not an issue.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 15:10:07
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There is no error log... Think of it like this 1 + 1 = 2, but the CPU adds 1 + 1 and gets 3 so the the applications marks it as an error. The application cant tell you what is causing the error or how to fix it... just tells you that there is an issue the rest is up to you to figure out. At a basic level ff you have errors it means your OC is not stable, could need more voltage etc.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 15:22:11
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Its a great app, i did move vcore a bit to 1.28v. But strange is every other app, like : 3dmark, AIda64 the cinabench apps seem to pass. Even the Intel Tuning app does passes. I think it could be other apps running in background. Or it wouldn't pass. System seems rock solid. Just wanna get 5ghz. Just a note: I am beginning to think that maybe i am pushing the memory controller to hard, I run corsair Platium Dominator 3600, at 4000, with 16 timings, that might seem to play a role in my oc. but memtest pro and aida pass memory just fine.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 17:07:00
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If its failing its not stable... 3DMark and AIDA64 don't really push the CPU hard enough for stability testing. Plus 3DMark as far as I know does not really have any error detection it either runs or it does not and I am not sure about AIDA64. The Intel Tuning APP is just running a standard LINPAK test which again is really not sufficient for modern CPU's or at the very least would need to run for hours on end to get a fail. Based off of the messing around that I have done with my CPU I think that you would need to push to maybe 1.3v or higher to get 5.00GHz out of the 9800x. My understanding is that 1.3v to 1.4 is the max voltage that you would want to push and personally for me that seems a bit high and would most likely require a significant cooling system to handle. What are you using to cool the CPU? Also when you start pushing clocks hard other instabilities can start to occur that were previously not an issue such as the RAM. Always overclock CPU than RAM... So you may need to disable XMP on the RAM overclock the CPU and get it stable than try the RAM + CPU overclock. Disclaimer: I take no fault if your CPU dies pushing higher than stock voltage/clocks... this is again strictly my thoughts and opinion and would encourage you to do your own research.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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Of course. I do use a 150i 360 rad corsair at maximum speeds on pump and all 3 fans. I have used 1.3v on 5ghz, and seems very stable, just
when an avx work load is what heats it up to 200f, other then that, i game most of the time. I ran the oc robot, but seems to deliver fake specs
or false settings, not sure it says 5ghz but at 1.395v in oc robot.
Also you have mentioned what you recommend for vin, i seen 1.8v, which works up to 4800mhz, but 49 or even 5 needs 1.95 or higher., and
i will try xmp off. hopefully that would be the issue since games do do much over 3600mhz ram anyway.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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For perspective I am running a custom loop with x2 360MM radiators, these CPUs run HOT. lol As you increase VCORE voltage you will need to increase VIN, I am not really increasing VCORE over stock so 1.8v for VIN seems to be working for me. If VIN is not set high enough it will cause phantom throttling which can be extremely difficult to detect, but I believe can be detected by monitoring power consumption and watching performance benchmarks. (not 100% sure on this one, however TiN has suggested keeping VIN something like 400mv over vcore, its in the BIOS and his OC guide) Yeah the OC robot appears to push a LOT of voltage when I run it on my 9800x and I usually panic and turn it off, lol. I dont know if this is a GUI glitch or if its actually pushing that much voltage to the CPU or not...
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 17:33:41
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I have done 2.1v on vin, and as high as 1.35v, and yes, i agree, they run hot!!.
These chips for some reason around 5 need exotic cooling. My 980 on x58 never ran hot like that i had it pushed to 4500mhz, at
1.425v.
What makes these skylake x chips so hot? and is the AIO i got good enough for 5ghz?
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 17:56:15
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I must of had a damn good 9800x then.
50x all core
1.8 VIN
1.310 Adaptive Vcore
32x Mesh
1.15 Mesh Voltage
Ran it for 2 years like that and never crashed in anything I used it for and now my Roommate uses it.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 17:58:44
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Thats what i would like to have as settings. What temps? and cooling?
I am thinking of grabbing a 10980XE soon to avoid all the comotion
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 18:17:38
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Ok this is very strange, i defaulted memory to 3600 cas 18, the uncore back to audo from +400, and VCCIO to auto, put
vin back to 2.0v and cpu to 1.310v and set cpu to 50, and ran Cinabench, and AIDA, and temps went down 10c from the
memory overclock of 4ghz at 16cas 1T command, so maybe that was the issue.
Will i lose any performance in system? dropping memory back to its default?
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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When that chip was in my setup it was in a loop with my 2080ti. It consisted of 3 D5 pumps and 3 360mm Radiators.
It would still get into the high 70's in Cinabench but never saw it go over 80c the whole 2 years I ran it.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
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Ok this is very strange, i defaulted memory to 3600 cas 18, the uncore back to audo from +400, and VCCIO to auto, put
vin back to 2.0v and cpu to 1.310v and set cpu to 50, and ran Cinabench, and AIDA, and temps went down 10c from the
memory overclock of 4ghz at 16cas 1T command, so maybe that was the issue.
Will i lose any performance in system? dropping memory back to its default?
You will lose some performance. I don't know which GPU you have but I have 1st place in Timespy for a 9800x and a single 2080ti https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13988569
I like the CPU test in Timespy because it shows gains with clock frequency/mesh frequency and memory speed/timings. Maybe could give you a CPU score to aim for.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 18:24:44
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I know on my 10940x the higher I try to run the memory and the mesh the more stress it puts on the memory controller and the Die of the CPU and creates even more heat.
Mesh voltage adds to the CPU package heat quite a bit.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/29 18:48:25
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I was gonna say, the mesh seems to add stress to a solid overclock. And my cinabench run seems to stay same, but memory read right
seemed to drop a bit in aida benchies.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/30 05:41:17
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Sultan.of.swing
I must of had a damn good 9800x then.
50x all core
1.8 VIN
1.310 Adaptive Vcore
32x Mesh
1.15 Mesh Voltage
Ran it for 2 years like that and never crashed in anything I used it for and now my Roommate uses it.
1.310v on vcore + using adaptive which will help with AVX2/AVX3 seems about right IMO.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/30 05:44:46
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dmann304
Thats what i would like to have as settings. What temps? and cooling?
I am thinking of grabbing a 10980XE soon to avoid all the comotion
I would not be surprised if a 9800x clocked higher per core than a 10980xe and I would not be surprised if the 9800x preformed better with gaming workloads.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/30 05:46:01
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You will lose some performance. I don't know which GPU you have but I have 1st place in Timespy for a 9800x and a single 2080ti https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13988569
I like the CPU test in Timespy because it shows gains with clock frequency/mesh frequency and memory speed/timings.
Maybe could give you a CPU score to aim for.
I really want to try and beat your Timespy score now... lol.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/30 08:19:38
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WEll, everything seems to work at 49, no heat issues, and i lowered overclock of mem back to 3600 default. Corsair Dominator pro rgb b-di. I found out i can use tighter timings to max out performance since ram speed above 3200 doesn't seem to make a difference on intel, or x299 How low would be good for these modules? The problem that has plagued this platform is serious latency issues, either in the mesh, or memory, is to why i am trying to squeeze as much out of it as a spunge. I know the cores according to CPU'z can match that of a 10900k as long as it plays nice with heat, and the rest is fine tuningf. not just clock speed.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/30 09:45:30
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The MESH is where the latency issues are coming from... overclocking will help, but not completely resolve the issue. I have not tried this, but it would be interesting to see what would happen if you disabled all of the cores on the CPU except for x4 and overclocked from there than benchmarked game performance. If this would allow for higher core overclocks, memory, and MESH this could possibly increase gaming performance since most games really still don't use more than x4 cores x8 threads. No idea if this would help...lol.
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Re: EVGA X299 Dark, OC Or AVX
2020/12/30 09:52:25
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Not a bad idea. Seems even lowering timings on samsung b-di memory modules don't seem to make much a difference in
games either, but does help when opening and closing stuff in windows 10, more snappier feeling.
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