They are technically limited as they are only sold at Best Buy and through Nvidia and stock was always out or sold out in 10 seconds or less. Occasionally some other retailer had them but mostly only Best Buy.  Of course the reference designed card will be cheaper than partner designs, always has been.  Available reference design cards would definitely hurt board partner sales, can't say I don't welcome the availability of in stock reference cards.  Since EVGA will be out of the picture on the 4080 I will probably go the reference route if its available. Can't think of another board partner besides EVGA that I would want. 

this is much worse than BFG news last time! Where should I get the RTX 4080 from then? I can only think of ASUS and MSI.

10 year customer here. Very sad day

this is all wrong....  Nvidia such a great manufacturer just took a crap.  I will change to Amd from here now. 

gahelm
Cant help but wonder if Nvidia doesn't have them bound in a contract that wont allow them to make cards for another OEM for a certain period of time after any cancellation of their agreement with Nvidia.

Intel, if you're listening, don't give up just yet ... partner with EVGA whenever any non-compete clause expires or buy their ICX cooling intellectual property.

One of the videos said that EVGA is open to doing it again I thought. But only if they are approached by red or blue with a good offer.
As much as I am disappointing. I will still buy the motherboards. And sounds like this wont hurt EVGA in the long run as it was not much in the profit margin. Someone said 80% sales but only 3% profit? That is pathetic. I do not blame EVGA one bit to get out of this abusive relationship.
I only went with EVGA Nvidia cards for two reason. EVGA, and red teams terrible drivers. Past couple years, Nvidia drivers have been nothing to write home about so I can now see my self with an AMD card in my computer. Also that opens me to many other monitors as I am not locked into G-Sync.

First Dodge exits the car market and now EVGA exits the GPU market. 😞 sad times. RIP

gahelm
Cant help but wonder if Nvidia doesn't have them bound in a contract that wont allow them to make cards for another OEM for a certain period of time after any cancellation of their agreement with Nvidia.

Almost certainly. Probably defined in technology generations not in years.

To those who are holding out hope that EVGA will eventually make cards for AMD or Intel, I'm guessing you didn't see the gamers nexus video where Steve said he asked Han that question, and he flat-out told Steve they will not ever be making video cards again with any company.  If they were waiting for a non-compete agreement to end, Han would have left some wiggle room in his answer even if he couldn't simply come out and say, "Hell yeah!"

In the 20 years or so that I've been buying GPU's, I've only ever bought one that wasn't made by EVGA.  To me, they were miles ahead of any other AIB or of Nvidia's founders edition cards, and I've never really wanted to buy from anyone else.  I got ripped off by Asus refusing to honor a warranty on a very nice monitor, and I've lost faith in and respect for MSI over the last few years due to bad experiences personally as well as sleazy stuff that they've done at large.  But I guess that if I want a 4080, I'll have to bit the bullet and choose from a bunch of inferior options.  Will probably end up going with *shudder* Asus.

aardvark1134

Ciddharthas
To those who are holding out hope that EVGA will eventually make cards for AMD or Intel, I'm guessing you didn't see the gamers nexus video where Steve said he asked Han that question, and he flat-out told Steve they will not ever be making video cards again with any company.  If they were waiting for a non-compete agreement to end, Han would have left some wiggle room in his answer even if he couldn't simply come out and say, "Hell yeah!"

In the 20 years or so that I've been buying GPU's, I've only ever bought one that wasn't made by EVGA.  To me, they were miles ahead of any other AIB or of Nvidia's founders edition cards, and I've never really wanted to buy from anyone else.  I got ripped off by Asus refusing to honor a warranty on a very nice monitor, and I've lost faith in and respect for MSI over the last few years due to bad experiences personally as well as sleazy stuff that they've done at large.  But I guess that if I want a 4080, I'll have to bit the bullet and choose from a bunch of inferior options.  Will probably end up going with *shudder* Asus.

In that video he also said he's not expanding into any new product and not laying anyone off.   Clearly 1 of the 3 things the CEO said is not true.   As there is no way they are closing 80% of their business not going with someone else, not expanding to other items and not laying anyone off.   Just not possible to do all those things.

Exactly.

Miguell
perhaps.. but gpu's are 80% of EVGA business! 80%!!

 
The issue is that's their revenue, not their profit.  If it's 80% of sales, but 90% of that 80% is eaten up by costs (R&D, marketing, sales, CS, OC software, BIOS updates, etc.), then it's something they can technically survive from, assuming that other 20% of revenue is significantly more profitable.  I presume this is why they've moved into other markets, since the profit margins are just way higher.  They've had motherboards for quite a while, making some of the best, if not the best, SLi motherboards in the 2000s.  According to the Peddie article, nVidia's profits are up, but AIB margins are down by quite a bit, so despite nVidia GPUs doing gangbusters, even now, many AIBs are having a hard time making profits, especially with the glut of GPUS nVidia tried to force them to sell.  Since they've been having to compete with MSRP FE cards since Turing, something nVidia said would only be a small part of their business, something for the "super fans" so to speak (even though we all know they've been pumping out FEs, especially with Ampere), it's been a struggle for AIBs to find ways to break even.  I remember with Pascal, FEs were just interesting status symbols of sorts, not something the general consumer was even really meant to think about, since they were limited and sold at a premium.  Now FEs are being sold at Best Buy of all places, and generally at lower prices than AIB cards, especially ones like EVGA's premium offerings.  I'm not saying EVGA doesn't have challenges going forward, but they're no XFX, BFG, etc.

And as a side note, their commitment to their employees doesn't mean people won't leave to, say, work at other AIBs, or other parts of the computer industry.  It just means they have no plans to layoff people just because they made this decision.  Like Steve said in his video, people want to do work for their money, since that's part of having a career in something you love.  Only so many people can be transferred to motherboards, PSUs, peripherals, etc.  All Han seems to be saying is he's not going to hang anyone out to dry for his decision, which is commendable in an age of tech where most workers are seen as living capital to be used and thrown away, just so executives can get the most money possible.

EVGATech_DanielM
Just want to pop in and say this community is the best. 

Just so a mod sees this, in case anyone is collating positive messages for teams inside EVGA at this moment of change, I wanted to say this.

I built my first PC in 2007 at the age of 16.  We had a hand-me down Windows XP Dell that replaced our old Windows XP Toshiba laptop, which somewhat replaced our HP Pentium 2 running Windows 95.  Back then, building PCs was a bit of a strange and interesting place, without nearly as many guides and videos as we have today.  I frankly don't even know how I managed to think to build my own PC, other than seeing Voodoo, nVidia, and ATi GPUs on sale at computer stores with wild box art, and reading the occasional PC Gamer magazine in the bookstore.  Somehow I managed to hear how awesome EVGA is and grabbed an nForce 680i SLI and an e-GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB Superclocked, along with Q6600, for my first PC build.  I was such a newb, I didn't even realize what motherboard stand-offs were, and luckily I didn't short anything in the process of figuring out to use them lol.  But I got everything up and running, and I loved it.  I even used RAID 1 on some HDDs to make sure if a drive failed, my data wasn't completely SOL.  One time, tho, in the process of reinstalling windows, or perhaps having a RAID fault from a bad shutdown, my RAID volume was lost, and I was able to call EVGA support at 3am to help fix it.  They realized the issue, and helped me find the right software to help rebuild the RAID array, or at least recover it if it wouldn't rebuild.  I don't think I've ever had, or ever will have, quite that kind of experience again, in terms of customer support.

When I once pounded the table after picking an acne scar (damn teenage skin lol), my dad, out of anger, unplugged my PC while running, frying the motherboard, RAM, and PSU.  So, I ordered an nForce 780i SLI to replace it, except I didn't know it was that issue until I RMA'd it and decided to buy a cheap PSU and some cheap memory with which to test, just in case.  EVGA gave me no grief over the RMA, even though, in retrospect, it was technically my fault, even if I hadn't realized it (somehow either the PSU or ram seemed to have fried the board).  Eventually I rebuilt with a new PSU, new ram (went with that silly Corsair gaming memory that came with the fan shroud lol), and upgraded to a GeForce GTX 280 since, in a moment of beguiling, teenage manipulation, I claimed the GPU had also died.  To this day, that computer still runs perfectly fine, even being helpful to diagnose issues with my friend's Sandy Bridge gaming PC that recently died.  I even ran the old 8800 GTX as a PhysX card, since, why not?

Skip to 2020, and I heard about the human malware causing shipping issues, and realized I more or less needed a new PC for work and gaming, since my laptop was already about seven years old, and compile times were abysmal.  My first thought, despite having not purchased desktop gaming hardware in almost 12 years, was EVGA.  I got an RTX 2060 XC Black (since I intended to upgrade the GPU down the line, not realizing how abysmal things would get), but since I decided to go Zen 2, I couldn't go EVGA for my motherboard at that time, since the x570 boards didn't release until later.

Fast forward to this Labor day, and I finally upgraded.  I was aiming for a 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra, but since those sold out, I "settled" for a 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  Even if it's only been five products over 15 years, I still supported EVGA, even if issues have come up from time to time for customers speaking about their experiences on the web; My early experiences just left that much of an impression on me.  So this is awfully saddening news.  In a weird way though, I'm glad I got my Ampere upgrade, rather than waiting for Lovelace, since, well, there won't be any Lovelace EVGA AIBs for me to purchase.  I was expecting to feel some FOMO come the 20th, but given nVidia's behavior towards their partners, even if they manage to have something better than a 3090 in gaming that's less than $980 and actually available, I've stopped worrying.  I don't want to support nVidia until they get their act together, frankly.  Once my warranty goes, I guess I'll look into upgrading.  Until then, I'm glad I was able to help support EVGA, even if I bought on sale, for their last hurrah and change into the future.

I'm just as nervous as everyone else for EVGA's future, but who knows, only time will tell.  Since nVidia seems to want to be the Apple of GPUs, maybe I'll keep my 3090 for Dx9 titles (think SGSSAA and HBAO+ lol), and get something different going forward.  Hopefully EVGA will still be around, doing something cool.  I'm really hoping we see some nice AM5 motherboards.

going to miss precision x. nothing else is even close. be surprised if it is ever updated again. why you hurt me evga

AngryAce

t1ggerlator
Are EVGA waiting for the non compete clause or seriously out of VGA? what about the waste of all the equipment they have specifically for the manufacture of VGA cards.

Asus, MSI and Gigabyte make both Nvidia and AMD cards, why would EVGA be under a non-compete clause? They certainly didn't seem to benefit from it if they were. If Nvidia is such a pain to work with and screw over AIBs, perhaps the others will follow suit (wishful thinking). I was a 3dfx man back in the day but have been buying EVGA since the GeForce 2. I've bought EVGA products ever since for not only the customer service but the community here. Show me another forum that has such a robust active community of employees, forum moderators and other knowledgeable people answering questions and helping others with technical issues or advice. This whole thing is still surreal for me, hasn't fully sunk in yet.

ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte are probably able to weather NVIDIA's conditions because of their budgets. In addition those three companies also manufacture AMD video cards as well. 


 
 

It figures after I buy my first EVGA 1600watt power supply and the 3090TI FTW Ultra. Anyway guys I will have to make a case badge,  EVGA 3090TI LAST EDITION!!!!  Still a great last show of Video Card engineering.
 
 
I Did EK them
 
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Damn, damn, damn...
 
After many years trying, I finally was able to score an EVGA Hydro Copper card this summer (3080Ti).
 
Thanks for your products and customer support EVGA.
 
PS.  This sort of puts me in the same space when Caselab closed shop.