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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
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Uninstalling LED Sync before Uninstalling Precision X1 using Programs and Features will fix this issue. WinRing0 is installed by LED Sync and not really PX1 yes LED Sync is installed within PX1 but uninstalling PX1 does not uninstall LED Sync to remove the items in the Registry.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 13:49:26
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Uninstalling LED Sync before Uninstalling Precision X1 using Programs and Features will fix this issue.
WinRing0 is installed by LED Sync and not really PX1 yes LED Sync is installed within PX1 but uninstalling PX1 does not uninstall LED Sync to remove the items in the Registry.
No it won't, not at all..I don't even have LED Sync installed (you can 'Cancel' that during install, btw)..The conflicting program in the WinRing0 ImagePath needs to be closed, or the conflicting program closed and the WinRing0 folder deleted and PX1 will recreate it with ImagePath pointing to WinRing0 files in the Program Files\EVGA\Precision X1\WinRing0 folder during install. WinRing0 is installed by PX1 to monitor CPU temperature.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 14:15:39
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Uninstalling LED Sync before Uninstalling Precision X1 using Programs and Features will fix this issue.
WinRing0 is installed by LED Sync and not really PX1 yes LED Sync is installed within PX1 but uninstalling PX1 does not uninstall LED Sync to remove the items in the Registry.
No it won't, not at all..I don't even have LED Sync installed (you can 'Cancel' that during install, btw)..The conflicting program in the WinRing0 ImagePath needs to be closed, or the conflicting program closed and the WinRing0 folder deleted and PX1 will recreate it with ImagePath pointing to WinRing0 files in the Program Files\EVGA\Precision X1\WinRing0 folder during install.
WinRing0 is installed by PX1 to monitor CPU temperature.
OK, My Process works fine for me, I have to have done this now at lest 30 times in the last two weeks. Though you did add this to the Puzzle "LED Sync installed (you can 'Cancel' that during install" Also most users do install LED Sync. I do not even have a option to show the CPU Temperature in PX1 0.9.3 so even more in this Puzzle. Default Location of Folders and Files when the Defaults are used when you Install PX1 
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 14:49:35
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I didn't know you could cancel LED Sync during the install and not have any issues, thanks! What does LED Sync actually do anyway? What would I need it for?
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 14:51:03
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I didn't know you could cancel LED Sync during the install and not have any issues, thanks! What does LED Sync actually do anyway? What would I need it for?
I install it but do not use it but to answer your question I will let bob16314 answer this. This is what it looks like with out Installing LED Sync, I do not use it so why install it. Setting the LEDs in PX1 works fine, this is version 0.3.9  This is what the Old PXOC Folder looks like, all the files went under C:\Program Files (x86)\EVGA\ 
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 15:28:11
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I didn't know you could cancel LED Sync during the install and not have any issues, thanks! What does LED Sync actually do anyway? What would I need it for?
During PX1 setup, LED Sync will be the first part of the setup..After it's done decompressing files, click 'Cancel' to put the whammy on it. LED Sync controls the RGB LEDs on graphics cards and SLI bridges with RGB LEDs.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
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Thanks. Does that mean if I don't install LED Sync that I will not be able to change the lighting on my 2080 Ti XC Ultra just using PX1?
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 16:41:22
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Thanks. Does that mean if I don't install LED Sync that I will not be able to change the lighting on my 2080 Ti XC Ultra just using PX1?
I just changed my LED Colors with PX1 without LED Sync Installed. https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2898536Your LED's will not change colors with the Temperatures changes that is what LED Sync does for us from what I understand.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 16:44:25
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Thanks. Does that mean if I don't install LED Sync that I will not be able to change the lighting on my 2080 Ti XC Ultra just using PX1?
I don't think you will be able to, but I don't have an RGB LED card to check it out..I think LED Sync needs to be installed for that..Somebody that has one might chime in and tell you for sure.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 16:53:57
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Thanks. Does that mean if I don't install LED Sync that I will not be able to change the lighting on my 2080 Ti XC Ultra just using PX1?
I don't think you will be able to, but I don't have an RGB LED card to check it out..I think LED Sync needs to be installed for that..Somebody that has one might chime in and tell you for sure.
If I may ask what RTX Graphics Card do you have?
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 16:59:43
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Thanks. Does that mean if I don't install LED Sync that I will not be able to change the lighting on my 2080 Ti XC Ultra just using PX1?
I don't think you will be able to, but I don't have an RGB LED card to check it out..I think LED Sync needs to be installed for that..Somebody that has one might chime in and tell you for sure.
If I may ask what RTX Graphics Card do you have?
It's in my sig 
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 17:00:41
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Thanks. Does that mean if I don't install LED Sync that I will not be able to change the lighting on my 2080 Ti XC Ultra just using PX1?
I don't think you will be able to, but I don't have an RGB LED card to check it out..I think LED Sync needs to be installed for that..Somebody that has one might chime in and tell you for sure.
If I may ask what RTX Graphics Card do you have?
It's in my sig
This is still the card you are using? EVGA GTX 760 SC
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/16 17:04:21
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This is still the card you are using? EVGA GTX 760 SC
Yeah..Seen too many reported problems with the 900 series and newer..Waiting for a while longer.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/19 16:52:12
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This program causes my 2080ti to stutter in games, at a 1 second interval.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/19 17:54:34
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This program causes my 2080ti to stutter in games, at a 1 second interval.
Do you run Google Backup and Sync in the background? The Google program made my games stutter regularly, but when I paused or closed it, the stuttering stopped. I wonder if the PX1 software saves a file every second or two which causes Google to run and back it up constantly. Just thinking "out loud".
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/19 18:29:11
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No, I don't have that. Do have Dropbox but I can see a recent files list and nothing comes from px1.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/20 04:45:13
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This program causes my 2080ti to stutter in games, at a 1 second interval.
Turn Vertical Sync off. If running BF5, settings/video/advance/future frame rendering-on
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/20 04:59:52
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Yep! Even the SLI Chain is still missing
Going back to 0.3.9 at lest I get the LED Screen Back but still no SLI Chain 0.3.9.
Maybe the next Beta Version.
Not sure if you noticed but your Memory MHz and GPU Clock are both running high. Interestingly your idle Mem Clock is set at 7000 as is mine while in idle. Only way to fix is computer reboot.
This did not happen before 3.10 but seems to now affect 3.9 after moving back to 3.9 from 3.10.
Both my cards have shown 7000 in all versions on PX1 and Before Installing any PX1 in GPU-Z as well as GPUShark that are Active.
I see you have two 2080 ti's. I only have one 2080 but comparing your PX1 readings to mine at idle: Adjustments: Memory Clock +700 GPU Clock +170 Voltage = 80 Target Power = 120 Idle: Memory MHz = 405 GPU Clock MHz = 300 Voltage = 719 mV Power 8% Before 3.10 and stressing then unloading the Card, the readings would drop back down to idle loads. After 3.10 the Card would never return to idle loads and I would have to reboot the computer to stop the Card from running high with no loads. The loads would stay at Memory 7000 MHz and GPU Clock well above 1000 (cant remember exact number) That is why I think your readings are high for idle even with two cards. Should try one Card and check PX1 again at idle after reboot then idle again after load. Seems something in Card isn't allowing Card to rest after releasing it from a load. I did go back to 3.9 but the issue remains after 3.10 changed something that did not correct after going back to 3.9
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/20 11:20:39
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I can review this in few days after my current process are completed and I can remove the NVLink Bridge.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/20 13:31:29
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Not playing BF5, and turning vsync off isn't an option. I bought a gsync monitor to avoid tearing at all frame rates. Funny how when I close this program my frame times become butter smooth again.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/20 13:35:29
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Not playing BF5, and turning vsync off isn't an option. I bought a gsync monitor to avoid tearing at all frame rates. Funny how when I close this program my frame times become butter smooth again.
You have set to change to Custom to change the VSync Setting, I have VSync set Off in BFV
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/20 14:01:12
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I'm not talking about battlefield, this was Monster Hunter World. And it doesn't matter which game, I've noticed this issue in many games lately, and closed programs one by one till it fixed. Px1 was causing stutters. Maybe it doesn't play well with rivatuner. And btw I keep HWM in precision turned off. I don't need it. Good thing every time the program starts that **** turns on and I can't disable it permanent or something. Literally the only reason I want px1 is to have custom fan curve.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/21 04:41:48
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Not playing BF5, and turning vsync off isn't an option. I bought a gsync monitor to avoid tearing at all frame rates. Funny how when I close this program my frame times become butter smooth again.
If you are using Gsync you should have vertical sync off. If that doesn't help use vertical sync on and Gsync off. Also set monitor to 120 and limit card frame rate to one half monitor rate or 60 fps. Just suggesting some things to see what works at getting ride of stutter. I personally don't see the need for Gsync and everything runs smooth with the suggested setup above.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/21 10:18:53
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Not playing BF5, and turning vsync off isn't an option. I bought a gsync monitor to avoid tearing at all frame rates. Funny how when I close this program my frame times become butter smooth again.
If you are using Gsync you should have vertical sync off.
If that doesn't help use vertical sync on and Gsync off. Also set monitor to 120 and limit card frame rate to one half monitor rate or 60 fps. Just suggesting some things to see what works at getting ride of stutter.
I personally don't see the need for Gsync and everything runs smooth with the suggested setup above.
I already know what gets rid of the stutter, closing PX1. And you should not be suggesting disabling vsync to people as a workaround. This program has bugs and glitches in them. That is the problem. Using one's graphics cards PROPERLY, is not causing stutter. How can anyone own a 2080ti and think that tearing (from disabling vsync) is acceptable. It doesn't matter if you cap frame rate, doesn't matter if you have gsync on or off, if you have disabled vsync, you get tearing.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/21 11:12:52
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It doesn't matter if you cap frame rate, doesn't matter if you have gsync on or off, if you have disabled vsync, you get tearing.
That simply isn't true for me, and I imagine most others. I have had a gsync monitor for a number of years now and I have always disabled vsync in games and never get tearing anymore. The point I'm making is simply that when you have gsync enabled, you do not need to turn on any gsync settings in games - vsync should be off. The gsync hardware will work with the video driver to eliminate tearing. If anyone gets tearing with gsync enabled, then there is a problem with your gsync or it's not configured properly in the driver. More to your issue of stuttering though - I don't know what could be causing that in the PX1 software. Hopefully that gets figured out.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/21 12:04:53
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It doesn't matter if you cap frame rate, doesn't matter if you have gsync on or off, if you have disabled vsync, you get tearing.
That simply isn't true for me, and I imagine most others. I have had a gsync monitor for a number of years now and I have always disabled vsync in games and never get tearing anymore. The point I'm making is simply that when you have gsync enabled, you do not need to turn on any gsync settings in games - vsync should be off. The gsync hardware will work with the video driver to eliminate tearing.
If anyone gets tearing with gsync enabled, then there is a problem with your gsync or it's not configured properly in the driver.
More to your issue of stuttering though - I don't know what could be causing that in the PX1 software. Hopefully that gets figured out.
You just don't understand that obviously if you have vsync set to on in the nvidia control panel, it overrides what you set in games.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
2018/12/21 13:39:29
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V-Sync & G-Sync should be on inside the nvidia control panel. V-Sync should be off inside the game. https://www.blurbusters.c...tests-and-settings/14/
Yes this is correct and it is how I run my games. So I would hope that now when I report a bug in the px1 forum about how that exact program is causing stutters people will not just suggest changing game settings.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
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I see others have step in to try and help you better understand g/v sync. You can’t just turn everything on and think it will all work together without any issues. Sometimes not understanding the technology can be the real issue..
Google something along the lines of “ should I use Gsync with vsync” and you will read a number of opinions on how to best mix and match the two.
As I said, for me I get flawless picture with Gsync off, vsync off, 120 hz monitor and limiting FPS to one have the monitor rate. For me a higher FPS is pointless as I don’t see a difference, For me the monitor refresh rate matters most when considering picture quality.
Also, I never intended to tell you how, what, when, etc , with respect to your card. There are just some things that have to be tweeked in order to work together.
As far as PX1 causing the stutter then don’t use it. Your card probably works just fine if you take the time to set it up properly. It took me a couple of weeks to adjust several combinations to fine what worked best with my system and the new card, just like it did with the old card and the card before that one. In the end the best mix wasn’t having everything on.
Good luck.
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Re: EVGA Precision X1 - 0.3.10
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dc8flyer
I see others have step in to try and help you better understand g/v sync. You can’t just turn everything on and think it will all work together without any issues. Sometimes not understanding the technology can be the real issue..
Google something along the lines of “ should I use Gsync with vsync” and you will read a number of opinions on how to best mix and match the two.
As I said, for me I get flawless picture with Gsync off, vsync off, 120 hz monitor and limiting FPS to one have the monitor rate. For me a higher FPS is pointless as I don’t see a difference, For me the monitor refresh rate matters most when considering picture quality.
Also, I never intended to tell you how, what, when, etc , with respect to your card. There are just some things that have to be tweeked in order to work together.
As far as PX1 causing the stutter then don’t use it. Your card probably works just fine if you take the time to set it up properly. It took me a couple of weeks to adjust several combinations to fine what worked best with my system and the new card, just like it did with the old card and the card before that one. In the end the best mix wasn’t having everything on.
Good luck.
There are 3 options. You either don't know what tearing looks like and/or don't notice it, you have vsync set to on in the nvidia control panel, or you are playing games in borderless window or any mode that is not exclusive full screen, in which case the Windows DWM is forcing vsync on for you. But that is only related to the minor point that you are passing people bad knowledge of how vsync and gsync should be used. It is also incredibly off topic of what i originaly said and have said since, I am here to REPORT A BUG. Im not asking for yours or anyones help. That's why I'm posting in this specific thread that's about this specific software. And this pos software has been constantly buggy since day one. I deeply regret purchasing a ftw3, if I had any other card I wouldn't need broken software to have a custom fan curve. Paid $1400 to beta test buggy software.
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