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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 02:37:42 (permalink)
Ok, so it's not possible to reach 520 watts without XOC bios.

that it is your power supply because many recommend a power supply of 1200 to 1600 watts I imagine to bench because I do not see why so much power or I am wrong. Before I had sli gtx 980 ti waterforce with the same processor a Ryzen 1800x and 32Gb of RAM with the same fans etc ... and I arrived in the 850 watts 900 watts well OC and its planted not.

The question is is that the processor knowing that it is a Ryzen and not Intel changes the situation because on youtube etc ... the vcore goes up easily to 2175-2190 with Intel or is that the power supply is too weak. Because it is a card that has potential and considering the price I would like to make the most of its capacity knowing that the memory rises high enough without touching the classified tool.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 03:49:28 (permalink)
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Running into some Power Problems since 2 days
Oled Warning - " GPU Power too Low "
anyone else having this issue ?
 
i Try to...
-> Power Limit 144%
-> Full Windows Clear install + Bios Mainboard reset 
-> Nvidia Driver + DDU cleanup
-> PX1 v1.0.2 also testet old version
-> Bios 2B.FA.42
-> 2nd Powersupply only for GPU 1000W
-> Different Wand Plug from other Fuse ( 2nd Room ) for the 2nd PSU
-> changed both psu for a 1600W one same issue
 
 
My System 
i9 9980XE
32 GB RAM
2080ti KPE
-> Full build    builds.gg/builds/big-red-19776
 
I did not get any errors in Windows Display turns off while Benchmarking / Gaming.
Sound still works fine. Connecting remotely on PC works fine GPU is dedected from Windows.
after restarting everthing works fine until i start some bench.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 03:57:52 (permalink)
Have you hooked up the extra power supply cable on your motherboard for extra GPU power if it has one?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 03:59:31 (permalink)
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Have you hooked up the extra power supply cable on your motherboard for extra GPU power if it has one?



8 + 4 Pin on Mainboard 
8 + 8 + 8 on separat Lane 2nd PSU
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 03:59:55 (permalink)
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Ok, so it's not possible to reach 520 watts without XOC bios.

that it is your power supply because many recommend a power supply of 1200 to 1600 watts I imagine to bench because I do not see why so much power or I am wrong. Before I had sli gtx 980 ti waterforce with the same processor a Ryzen 1800x and 32Gb of RAM with the same fans etc ... and I arrived in the 850 watts 900 watts well OC and its planted not.

The question is is that the processor knowing that it is a Ryzen and not Intel changes the situation because on youtube etc ... the vcore goes up easily to 2175-2190 with Intel or is that the power supply is too weak. Because it is a card that has potential and considering the price I would like to make the most of its capacity knowing that the memory rises high enough without touching the classified tool.


You don't need xoc bios to get 500 watts on the Kingpin,

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 04:05:42 (permalink)
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Have you hooked up the extra power supply cable on your motherboard for extra GPU power if it has one?



8 + 4 Pin on Mainboard 
8 + 8 + 8 on separat Lane 2nd PSU


A single 1600 watt power supply is plenty. You should also have another power connection on the bottom of the motherboard for more gou power. Should be a 4 pin molex probably. What motherboard?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 04:14:47 (permalink)
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Have you hooked up the extra power supply cable on your motherboard for extra GPU power if it has one?



8 + 4 Pin on Mainboard 
8 + 8 + 8 on separat Lane 2nd PSU


A single 1600 watt power supply is plenty. You should also have another power connection on the bottom of the motherboard for more gou power. Should be a 4 pin molex probably. What motherboard?



atm im running the Asus Rog Rampage Vi Extreme
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 04:26:15 (permalink)
At the bottom left of the motherboard there is an additional 4 pin molex power connection for the video cards. In the manual it's called an ez plug.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 04:31:04 (permalink)
wow Thanks going to test it out 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 04:33:59 (permalink)
Your 1600 watt should be your only power supply for the whole system, I'm running 2x 2080ti kingpins, 10980xe, 32gb ddr4 4266mhz, and 2 different pumps for individual loops on an Asus rampage vi extreme encore.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 06:11:24 (permalink)
run some benchmarks using the additional 4 pin molex power didnt change much was able to run some benchmarking... overall it didnt work.
i think its time to change the mainboard...
also looked at temps there all normal 60 on gpu 55 on cpu
water temps are betweeen 45-50°C
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 06:15:55 (permalink)
Is this an old setup with just a new kingpin
or a system that has been fine for a while and problem just started or what? Did your low GPU voltage still come on?
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 06:30:12 (permalink)
no im using this setup since 6 months and now its randomly started to say " GPU Power too Low " 
only happens while benchmarking / gaming 
 
didnt play around with the voltage only 144% power limit
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 06:39:49 (permalink)
You should put the voltage slider at 100% when benchmarking. But I don't think you have a motherboard issue myself. Which bios are you on, normal, OC, or ln2 bios flashed to one of the other positions?
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 11:57:39 (permalink)
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Hi all

On my first kingpin I had disappointing frequencies +70 with the OC bios for the core (2115-2100) and the memory could go up to 1300 but not steady in all my games at 1000 was good.

Luckily, my card had a big bug of freeze at startup and I changed it with an RMA. After trying the card works a little better 104 with the OC bios for the core (2145-2130) and 1580 for the fixed memory in bench and games for now. For the core is the max even with the stock memory I can not climb higher what I find curious because I think it can do better.

I precise I reinstall my OS put the frequencies stock of the processor and the memory and that changes nothing.

Many on the forum have frequencies which go up to 2175-2190-2205 on the core.

My power supply is an HX1000 Watts is what this has an impact. The card never goes up to 520 watts more in 380-400 and with the rest of my configuration my power never reaches its limit.

If you can tell me what you think about it, if it's normal or not its would be nice.


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Hi all

On my first kingpin I had disappointing frequencies +70 with the OC bios for the core (2115-2100) and the memory could go up to 1300 but not steady in all my games at 1000 was good.

Luckily, my card had a big bug of freeze at startup and I changed it with an RMA. After trying the card works a little better 104 with the OC bios for the core (2145-2130) and 1580 for the fixed memory in bench and games for now. For the core is the max even with the stock memory I can not climb higher what I find curious because I think it can do better.

I precise I reinstall my OS put the frequencies stock of the processor and the memory and that changes nothing.

Many on the forum have frequencies which go up to 2175-2190-2205 on the core.

My power supply is an HX1000 Watts is what this has an impact. The card never goes up to 520 watts more in 380-400 and with the rest of my configuration my power never reaches its limit.

If you can tell me what you think about it, if it's normal or not its would be nice.


520w is when pushing it with different bios like XOC, my card if I dont use classified never goes above 340w at 2190mhz/8000mhz. Honestly I don't think I'd recommend anyone buy a kingpin, they're not all created equal.

My Ftw3 I sold the night before my KPE arrived in firestrike out scored the KPE by 2900 points, FTW3 @2115/8300 VS KPE@2175/8000. In timespy my KPE is about 200 points off my FTW3. Using classified tool memory dosen't even hit 1200 stable in Timespy/port royal. Can hit 1300mhz no classified in firestrike.




How can the lottery on this card be this varied? I thought it's handpicked silicon?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 12:29:54 (permalink)
I feel put aside on the lottery why a lot of people manage to do 2175-2190 on the core without problem while other galley as not possible and does not arrive there or is the reverse on the memory for example. Yet it is an exceptional card but considering the price was not justified. Then I would put it under watter maybe it would show all its potential but today I estimate that they can all go up easily to 2205 mhz because the pcb is planned basic and this is why we pay this price at the start there is one that goes up to 2320mhz without going under wattercooling and seen on youtube,

I will see when I change the power supply for a 1200-1600 watts at a good price to see if its changes something and I will let know on the forum if it has changed or not but currently is marketing and marketing its expensive and nobody gives me an opinion if my food is too weak or not seen but current frequency or is what I get, after I want to have its full potential as mentioned previously.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 12:42:58 (permalink)
Where is the video at showing 2320 without water cooling? Or is it on ln2 or dice?
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 13:16:46 (permalink)
FluffyGamer on youtube for example 2325 at the start to finish at 2295 with an average of 2310 in the core and 8400 in the memory and given the temperatures I think it went with AIO because I go up to its temperatures in games after a good session. I do not have his food, nor is under AIO or Wattercooling etc ...
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 14:19:53 (permalink)
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Hi all

On my first kingpin I had disappointing frequencies +70 with the OC bios for the core (2115-2100) and the memory could go up to 1300 but not steady in all my games at 1000 was good.

Luckily, my card had a big bug of freeze at startup and I changed it with an RMA. After trying the card works a little better 104 with the OC bios for the core (2145-2130) and 1580 for the fixed memory in bench and games for now. For the core is the max even with the stock memory I can not climb higher what I find curious because I think it can do better.

I precise I reinstall my OS put the frequencies stock of the processor and the memory and that changes nothing.

Many on the forum have frequencies which go up to 2175-2190-2205 on the core.

My power supply is an HX1000 Watts is what this has an impact. The card never goes up to 520 watts more in 380-400 and with the rest of my configuration my power never reaches its limit.

If you can tell me what you think about it, if it's normal or not its would be nice.


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Hi all

On my first kingpin I had disappointing frequencies +70 with the OC bios for the core (2115-2100) and the memory could go up to 1300 but not steady in all my games at 1000 was good.

Luckily, my card had a big bug of freeze at startup and I changed it with an RMA. After trying the card works a little better 104 with the OC bios for the core (2145-2130) and 1580 for the fixed memory in bench and games for now. For the core is the max even with the stock memory I can not climb higher what I find curious because I think it can do better.

I precise I reinstall my OS put the frequencies stock of the processor and the memory and that changes nothing.

Many on the forum have frequencies which go up to 2175-2190-2205 on the core.

My power supply is an HX1000 Watts is what this has an impact. The card never goes up to 520 watts more in 380-400 and with the rest of my configuration my power never reaches its limit.

If you can tell me what you think about it, if it's normal or not its would be nice.


520w is when pushing it with different bios like XOC, my card if I dont use classified never goes above 340w at 2190mhz/8000mhz. Honestly I don't think I'd recommend anyone buy a kingpin, they're not all created equal.

My Ftw3 I sold the night before my KPE arrived in firestrike out scored the KPE by 2900 points, FTW3 @2115/8300 VS KPE@2175/8000. In timespy my KPE is about 200 points off my FTW3. Using classified tool memory dosen't even hit 1200 stable in Timespy/port royal. Can hit 1300mhz no classified in firestrike.




How can the lottery on this card be this varied? I thought it's handpicked silicon?


I really dont know why the lottery is so poor for a "binned" chip this was my best I could get and that's with classified tool. My 9900k was having issues so I used a backup machine. My 1080ti was only 30pts lower then with my intel benchmark but it's way off with this KPE. The intel gpu score is with my ftw3 amd is KPE.

Waiting on my 10980xe to show up. I doubt it's going to make up the 1000pts when the KPE has higher core clock and 50mhz less memory. The ftw3 was game stable at 2075/8300 I haven't used my kpe to game.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/05 20:55:49 (permalink)
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You should put the voltage slider at 100% when benchmarking. But I don't think you have a motherboard issue myself. Which bios are you on, normal, OC, or ln2 bios flashed to one of the other positions?



Hey Spare, I don't agree with putting the voltage to 100% I can run 2160mhz on firestrike 0 voltage increase as soon as I hit 100% at 2160 it crashes. I'm guessing because it's a GPU issue. I'm just saying what works for me not everyone.


Also I wish the KPE would work like the lower tier cards with power target. Set it at 144% or 120% and actually get close to power target. Set mine at 144% 0 voltage and it stays at 316tdp and 88% power target so no benefit with having the slider tbh.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/10 18:36:20 (permalink)
look @ what the 2080ti KPE's can do with R9 3950x ;o
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/10 18:39:11 (permalink)
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look @ what the 2080ti KPE's can do with R9 3950x ;o
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/203233


Still not as good as your 7980xe did.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/10 19:46:57 (permalink)
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look @ what the 2080ti KPE's can do with R9 3950x ;o
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/11 15:39:32 (permalink)
So had issues with first KPE where it would start flashing screen evga rma'd me a new one. Still not a beast overclocker. It did beat my ftw3 finally and my first kpe. Waiting on a 10980xe to be out in the wild so I ordered a 3950x should have no results soon. Not game stable but repeatable on benching.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/11 16:02:49 (permalink)
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So had issues with first KPE where it would start flashing screen evga rma'd me a new one. Still not a beast overclocker. It did beat my ftw3 finally and my first kpe. Waiting on a 10980xe to be out in the wild so I ordered a 3950x should have no results soon. Not game stable but repeatable on benching.


If your using the stock cooler on your kingpin anywhere from 2160 to 2190 is pretty much the average for them. 2205 was happening in a very few instances. Once you start using the classy tool and custom water cooling you can start pushing it up higher.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/11 18:05:29 (permalink)
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If your using the stock cooler on your kingpin anywhere from 2160 to 2190 is pretty much the average for them. 2205 was happening in a very few instances. Once you start using the classy tool and custom water cooling you can start pushing it up higher.


Yeah, first one wouldnt do more then 1300mhz on timespy with help and this one will do 1225mhz mem with out help. The rma kpe does 2085mhz stock the first one only did 2055mhz.

I'm just relieved it actually uses it's full power first one wouldnt even hit 360tdp with voltage and power slider maxed on px1 this one hitting 370-390tdp with voltage and power slider maxed with px1.

My ftw3 made my first kpe look like trash. Glad I got a good one this time around
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/14 14:16:59 (permalink)
These 2080ti KPE's landed the AMD 3950x a top 10 2x Card HOF FireStrike Ultra on water ;o
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/14 16:08:51 (permalink)
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These 2080ti KPE's landed the AMD 3950x a top 10 2x Card HOF FireStrike Ultra on water ;o
 
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21536073
 
These Cards never stop impressing!


That's crazy!!! Evga bouched my shipment for my power supply and I dont want to pull out my 1200w out of my main rig to test my 3950x!

What's the temps at for 4.6ghz is that 2 core or all 16 for 4.6? Didnt think they'd hit a all core 4.6....
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/14 18:27:56 (permalink)
@nova496 that's at 70c peak load on the all core OC of 4550 on the 3950x. Its definitely at the limit. CB stable at 45.  That being said the same voltage at -90c and the chip can run 5GHz+
 
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As for your KPE and others that have posted recently.  Without the classy tool I never saw 500+ watts load on a single card in over 1000 3Dmark runs. It sounds like these wizards know something I don't. That being said I have reached out to a few, only to be ignored. Sucks being a pleb I suppose.
 
A teachable moment?
A few months ago one of my KPE's was acting weird. I took it off the bench and ran it in my daily for about 60 days @ stock clocks. Needed to play through all the RTX titles... Any way she acted a little funny IE some artifacting ect once in a blue moon... Put her back on the bench with its sister card and she ran good for a week then started acting unreliable to the point that she didn't want to OC much at all... Shortly after I decided to start logging everything again... One thing that caught my eye was a disparity in idle and load temps between the two cards. 1c is fine but this was ~5c +
 
SHORT STORY LONG I decided to pull the HC's off and remount both cards..
 
I am terrible at mounting so I took my time and I think the results speak for themselves. Paying attention to detail was key while mounting the HC blocks.  My KPE's now run 2235+GPU 1400+MEM even in TimeSpy Extreme. 
 
Also these two cards will in a certain circumstance pull 1240 watts from the wall. Therefor in my experience a single 1600 watt PSU is not even close to enough power delivery for a bench that also has a 7980xe loading another 700watts...  For gaming probably anything over 850w could work without issue... 
 
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By the way a typical 20 amp circuit in your house @120v maxes out at 2400 watts. On my bench for example... 1240w+700w =1940 watts which leaves 460watts on the circuit assuming no additional load on that circuit and also that your panel is properly load balanced.  In many circumstances wall receptacles may share only a 15 amp circuit with multiple rooms in house and would bring the total available wattage down to ~1800.  Also it is typical that 120v AC may only be delivering 117v or less 115v. I digress...  But would speculate that some KPE owners are close to overload while running additional machines, AC's and chillers on the same 15amp circuit while benching...
 
TLDR
Anyway moving forward the first thing I will check when the KPE's are not performing is the mount ;o0
 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2020/01/15 04:54:35 (permalink)
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