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2017/02/16 07:06:55 (permalink)
Good Morning,
 
I just installed the 1080FE EVGA Upgrade Hybrid Kit.
 
It seems that there is a constant audible buzzing from the pump which I have read is "normal"?  I can hear it sitting 3 feet away when the room is silent.  This isn't so much an issue since there is always something playing in the background, but I was curious if it is normal or not?
 
Here is a picture of my install (not sure if the hoses curling upward could be causing it).
 

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 07:39:26 (permalink)
    " I can hear it sitting 3 feet away when the room is silent." With the side cover on or off?
    Did you Bleed the air into the Radiator before you installed it, by rotating the Pump and Radiator before you installed.
    And keep the GPU Lower than the Radiator and with the Radiator Tubes on the Bottom as how you now have it installed.
     
    Nice looking Rig
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    I do no see any Cool Air Intake or (Fresh Air Flow) for your GPU to use?
    It looks like you only have Hot Air coming into your Case from the Front CPU Radiator.
    What are your Temperatures on your GPU? 
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 08:54:43 (permalink)
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    " I can hear it sitting 3 feet away when the room is silent." With the side cover on or off?
    Did you Bleed the air into the Radiator before you installed it, by rotating the Pump and Radiator before you installed.
    And keep the GPU Lower than the Radiator and with the Radiator Tubes on the Bottom as how you now have it installed.
     
     
     
    I do no see any Cool Air Intake or (Fresh Air Flow) for your GPU to use?
    It looks like you only have Hot Air coming into your Case from the Front CPU Radiator.
    What are your Temperatures on your GPU? 




     
    I can hear the humming/buzzing with the case panel on (glass panel - it's a constant buzzing/humming which really is just a low audible noise, nothing really "annoying", just kinda odd.  Also heard the water gurgling when I started the computer after installing it, freaked me out.)
     
    I did not bleed it (wasn't aware I was supposed to).  I did howerver tilt the case while it was on a little bit ago to see if that would help, but it's still making the noise.
     
    My "intakes" are just the front radiator.  I should also note that I used an aftermarket fan instead of the supplied one and coiled up the fan connector inside of the shroud they give.  The GPU temps went from 81-82 in Rainbow Six Siege to 43 so a huge improvement.  Had to also set the GPU fan to like 30% constant in EVGA Precision X to keep it from revving up constantly.
     
    (Maybe it will "break in"...left it on for 20hrs so far and it hasn't really changed)
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 09:19:32 (permalink)
    This is true about a Break-In Time Frame.
    I have been using the Hybrid Coolers since it came out for the GTX 980 Cards and one GTX 1070 Hybrid.
    I have been using Corsair AIO Coolers for a few years and have to Bleed the Air in them as well.
    Now I have my First EVGA AIO CPU Cooler to play with.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 09:43:27 (permalink)
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    This is true about a Break-In Time Frame.
    I have been using the Hybrid Coolers since it came out for the GTX 980 Cards and one GTX 1070 Hybrid.
    I have been using Corsair AIO Coolers for a few years and have to Bleed the Air in them as well.
    Now I have my First EVGA AIO CPU Cooler to play with.




    Should I take it (AIO and GPU) out and rotate it a few times? Or is it too late to do that?  ALSO, I noticed that the GPU fan that came with the kit rev's up alot at certain temps like 42 degrees...even with EVGA Precision X disabling Auto fan mode and setting tot 30% constant.
     
    Also just tested a few things:
     
    Heaven's Benchmark (all ultra/max): Max temp 53 degrees
    Witcher 3 (all ultra/max w/o hairworks): Max temp 60 degrees
    Rainbow Six Siege (all max/ultra): Max temp 43 degrees
     
    Massive improvement compared to it going to 82 usually before this install.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 09:46:40 (permalink)
    My Hybrid has never seen 60 Degrees, maybe 46C
    You can remove it and try to but it would not hurt.
    I use an old PSU to power the Pump when I do mine.
    You will really here the Pump when you air passes through it so you will no when their is none. It is Loud.
     
    You can reverse your Fan on the GPU Radiator and make it an Intake and it will pull in cooler air and out the Top of your CPU.
    Not seeing the rear of your computer case but are you running another fan on the outside in a Push/Pull setup?
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 10:03:27 (permalink)
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    My Hybrid has never seen 60 Degrees, maybe 46C
    You can remove it and try to but it would not hurt.
    I use an old PSU to power the Pump when I do mine.
    You will really here the Pump when you air passes through it so you will no when their is none. It is Loud.
     
    You can reverse your Fan on the GPU Radiator and make it an Intake and it will pull in cooler air and out the Top of your CPU.
    Not seeing the rear of your computer case but are you running another fan on the outside in a Push/Pull setup?




    Nope, no push/pull just that single fan on the GPU radiator.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 11:03:11 (permalink)
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    My Hybrid has never seen 60 Degrees, maybe 46C
    You can remove it and try to but it would not hurt.
    I use an old PSU to power the Pump when I do mine.
    You will really here the Pump when you air passes through it so you will no when their is none. It is Loud.
     
    You can reverse your Fan on the GPU Radiator and make it an Intake and it will pull in cooler air and out the Top of your CPU.
    Not seeing the rear of your computer case but are you running another fan on the outside in a Push/Pull setup?




    It seems I idle at roughly 29-31C and like I said in Witcher 3 I get 59 degrees (47 now in R6)...apparently that seems high?  Though, I'm honestly not too worried about temps, more that I got it to reduce the blower noise.  I also have the card clocked to 
     

     
    Are you using Stock TIM or aftermarket paste?  I have the OG stuff on.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 11:05:33 (permalink)
    It is not high for the GPU only, only high for a GPU with a Hybrid Cooler.
    Stock for Preinstalled and MX-4 for all others. If I clean and Re-Tim MX-4 as well.
    I do have my cards setup as a Push/Pull System.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 11:10:07 (permalink)
    I would set the Memory to Zero and Move the Voltage to the Max using your current +250.

     

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 17:33:59 (permalink)
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    I would set the Memory to Zero and Move the Voltage to the Max using your current +250.

     


    Another question for you, does your fan (the one on the GPU) ever rev uP?  Mine keeps reving super loud every like 30seconds or randomly when I'm in game...even though it's set to a constant percentage in EVGA PRecision X...
     
    In HWMonitor it shows a max of 120000 rpm lol
     
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 17:48:50 (permalink)
    My Blower Fan run at 60% using XOC.
    This Blower Fan is what cools the PCB and vRam and Chokes and all.
     
    Yours I thinks I running so hard because you have no fresh air coming into you case, only hot air from your front fans coming of the CPU AIO Radiator.
    And you are overclocking your vRam.
    I do not use "HWMonitor" use XOC to see what the Blower Fan is running. I think the Max is under 10,000 RPMs.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 18:21:09 (permalink)
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    My Blower Fan run at 60% using XOC.
    This Blower Fan is what cools the PCB and vRam and Chokes and all.
     
    Yours I thinks I running so hard because you have no fresh air coming into you case, only hot air from your front fans coming of the CPU AIO Radiator.
    And you are overclocking your vRam.
    I do not use "HWMonitor" use XOC to see what the Blower Fan is running. I think the Max is under 10,000 RPMs.




    I manually set my Fan via XOC, since I'm not using a curve.  I just set it to 55% and it's still reving every once and a while in game... x.x
     
    I just RMA'd it (well ordered a new one and set up a return)
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/16 18:24:20 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/18 07:13:26 (permalink)
    Unfortunately, the buzz appears to be normal and there are several other threads on the front page complaining of the same thing.  I have been through two already, both with the identical high RPM pump whir.  Air bubbles tend to create an uneven or variable pitch.  If yours is like mine, it's just a constant steady hum, like sitting in an industrial plant full of fluorescent lighting and machinery.  I am disappointed and the unique design of the center "extended" cold plate is what makes this work.  Since Asetek likes to make the cold plates very difficult to remove, trying to swap in another AIO cooler with a better pump would be difficult.
     
    Your GPU should idle around room temperature, or more specifically your case ambient temperature.  29C is high, but not if it's Summer and your room temps are in the mid to upper 20's.  You may need to take a look some other case temps.  The front waste heat coming in should not dramatically affect the GPU water temps since the radiator is in back.  However, if you are dragging all the exhaust from the case through it, that would lead to higher coolant temps as well.  Regardless, if you are starting at 29C idle, all your GPU temps will be 10C higher than mine since I am starting at 19C in a cool room.  That would seem to be the difference, rather than a contact/TIM kind of problem.  Hopefully, that is an SP120 on the radiator in back.  An AF120 would not be particularly effective on its own and might lead to higher coolant temps as well.  
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/18 09:31:48 (permalink)
    Welcome to the Forum X-TAC
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/18 10:23:52 (permalink)
    It is not bleeding air out of a closed loop cooler but bleeding the air out of the pump and into the top of radiator. (Per EVGA)
    "Did you Bleed the air into the Radiator before you installed it, by rotating the Pump and Radiator before you installed." From Post #2
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/18 11:16:19 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/18 14:45:03 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately, the buzz appears to be normal and there are several other threads on the front page complaining of the same thing.  I have been through two already, both with the identical high RPM pump whir.  Air bubbles tend to create an uneven or variable pitch.  If yours is like mine, it's just a constant steady hum, like sitting in an industrial plant full of fluorescent lighting and machinery.  I am disappointed and the unique design of the center "extended" cold plate is what makes this work.  Since Asetek likes to make the cold plates very difficult to remove, trying to swap in another AIO cooler with a better pump would be difficult.
     
    Your GPU should idle around room temperature, or more specifically your case ambient temperature.  29C is high, but not if it's Summer and your room temps are in the mid to upper 20's.  You may need to take a look some other case temps.  The front waste heat coming in should not dramatically affect the GPU water temps since the radiator is in back.  However, if you are dragging all the exhaust from the case through it, that would lead to higher coolant temps as well.  Regardless, if you are starting at 29C idle, all your GPU temps will be 10C higher than mine since I am starting at 19C in a cool room.  That would seem to be the difference, rather than a contact/TIM kind of problem.  Hopefully, that is an SP120 on the radiator in back.  An AF120 would not be particularly effective on its own and might lead to higher coolant temps as well.  




    Yea that's a SP120 (PWM) on the back pushing air out.  My computer room is relatively hot compared to the rest of the apartment due to the sun setting on this side of the house.  I don't mind switching the fan to intake but then I have to buy a darn filter and such.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Upgrade 1080FE Kit Buzz 2017/02/18 15:21:24 (permalink)
    I have same afternoon sun problem at home.  It really turns the place into a green house and you get huge swings between morning and evening temps.  You can certainly try to flip the rear fan on the GPU 120 radiator to intake.  It is an easy experiment, although I would hold off on the air filter for the time being.  Besides the cost, it does provide another level of resistance and may affect coolant temp to some degree.  However, the common problem with running that kind of set-up is you then have all your radiators dumping their heat into the case.   In addition to obviously warmer interior component temperatures, if you really do raise the entire case temp by +5C, then the coolant in the GPU radiator will also have gone up 5C as well.  These kinds of set-ups (front-back intake, top exhaust) put a lot stress on the top fans to get all the heat of the case.  If you have a tower on the floor, off to your side, that top fan speed may be equally as irritating from a noise perspective.
     
    Still, it is an easy thing to try and probably worth doing for data collection.  You might also take a look at your PCH and motherboard temp sensor information.  Not as accurate as probes, but it still may shed some light on whether the whole case is hot or just certain sections.  You can get a rough estimate of the coolant temp just sitting on the desktop and looking at GPU diode temp.  With the voltage stepped all the way down at idle, the effective GPU temperature will be the same as the coolant temperature.  The temperature should fall fairly quickly when not loaded.  If it does not, that might suggest the water temp is very high or a more serious issue.  I am a little concerned that your blower fan revs up during gaming.  From what I have seen other people report and from my own experiences, it just sits at the 23% minimum until I get up near 45C and has a very small increase.
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